Police State?

[greynotsoold]

Supposedly, this is the land of the free. So I wonder how you can make things illegal based on a person's associations and the perceived threat to society of those associations? In my mind, that would make it illegal for Democrats, Republicans, Congress and scores of others to associate.
Trouble in North Town | Inland Empire Weekly
Around 1980, in this same neighborhood, a cop was hit in the eye with a rock. Law enforcement agencies were called in from the surrounding area and the neighborhood shut off while cops went door to door and beat people with sticks. Very poor area, with no plumbing until the 1970s, and pavement came well into the 1980s.

[brocktonblockbust]

Supposedly, this is the land of the free. So I wonder how you can make things illegal based on a person's associations and the perceived threat to society of those associations? In my mind, that would make it illegal for Democrats, Republicans, Congress and scores of others to associate.
Trouble in North Town | Inland Empire Weekly
Around 1980, in this same neighborhood, a cop was hit in the eye with a rock. Law enforcement agencies were called in from the surrounding area and the neighborhood shut off while cops went door to door and beat people with sticks. Very poor area, with no plumbing until the 1970s, and pavement came well into the 1980s.

ı lıke that-----perceıved threat---based on some numbskull's perceptıons so he can control your every move and emaıl and etc....

[greynotsoold]

I love how they give grown men a curfew, and tell them can't associate with people they have known for 4 generations, based on the fact that they are called a gang. In the town where I live now, back in 1914, and again from 1918-1922, there was martial law. That was because of labor union activity, and because two consecutive 'socialist' mayors were elected.
Any excuse is no excuse when the police state is grabbing power.

[Andre]

Reminds me of the mob back in the early days they met up in church unhindered.

You can guess where their business will be taken.

[pacfan]

Good for you folks. We got no police to talk of around here except the sleeping ones, and the 'in' thing these days are two guys riding in bike with full-covered helmets, one does the driving and the other does the shooting, and most of the time, they're never caught. So anybody has anything against anyone, just get yourself a partner and ride your bike and do your stuff - or if you can afford it, you can hire a pair - and you can get rid of your enemy without worrying about being put in a slammer...
...give us some of your police, even a rascal will do...

[VictorCharlie]

Minnesota Wrong Door Raid | PoliceMisconduct.net
http://reason.com/archives/2010/12/0...war-on-cameras
http://reason.com/blog/2008/12/02/mo...drug-raids-gon
http://reason.com/blog/2011/12/07/ju...tional-guard-a

I could go on and on

[Andre]

Good for you folks. We got no police to talk of around here except the sleeping ones, and the 'in' thing these days are two guys riding in bike with full-covered helmets, one does the driving and the other does the shooting, and most of the time, they're never caught. So anybody has anything against anyone, just get yourself a partner and ride your bike and do your stuff - or if you can afford it, you can hire a pair - and you can get rid of your enemy without worrying about being put in a slammer...
...give us some of your police, even a rascal will do...

Tough spot to live.

Hows those floods, you ok?

[Mars_ax]

Supposedly, this is the land of the free. So I wonder how you can make things illegal based on a person's associations and the perceived threat to society of those associations? In my mind, that would make it illegal for Democrats, Republicans, Congress and scores of others to associate.
Trouble in North Town | Inland Empire Weekly
Around 1980, in this same neighborhood, a cop was hit in the eye with a rock. Law enforcement agencies were called in from the surrounding area and the neighborhood shut off while cops went door to door and beat people with sticks. Very poor area, with no plumbing until the 1970s, and pavement came well into the 1980s.

I'm not sure what your point is Grey, I take it this is a notorious, drug/gang infested area, in California?
I doubt if the police would be fucking with this trash if they weren't doing something illegal. In the name of "freeedom" are we suppose to let these people do what they want, please correct me if i'm wrong.
cheers

[greynotsoold]

Supposedly, this is the land of the free. So I wonder how you can make things illegal based on a person's associations and the perceived threat to society of those associations? In my mind, that would make it illegal for Democrats, Republicans, Congress and scores of others to associate.
Trouble in North Town | Inland Empire Weekly
Around 1980, in this same neighborhood, a cop was hit in the eye with a rock. Law enforcement agencies were called in from the surrounding area and the neighborhood shut off while cops went door to door and beat people with sticks. Very poor area, with no plumbing until the 1970s, and pavement came well into the 1980s.

I'm not sure what your point is Grey, I take it this is a notorious, drug/gang infested area, in California?
I doubt if the police would be fucking with this trash if they weren't doing something illegal. In the name of "freeedom" are we suppose to let these people do what they want, please correct me if i'm wrong.
cheers

It is an old, 'established' gang neighborhood. Goes back 60 or 70 years. Back in the 1970s they were at war with my neighborhood, and that (and the Chino/Pomona war) spawned federal and state investigations. I haven't lived there for years, but I know the violence has gone down, that this 'varrio' has been essentially paved over, and that there is drug dealing going on there.
My point is this: Once we make it ok for the government to tell certain people that they cannot do legal things (for example, associate with people that they have known for four generations, or go out after 10pm, or hang out in front of their homes), then we are all screwed. They want to ban Cuca Kings from doing these things..,.why not Libertarians, or whatever? We live in a society that functions on legal precedent and once it becomes ok to do this, we are all at risk.
This is primarily vengeance for something that happened in 1980, when a sheriff had his eye damaged by a rock thrown at him. At that time, the neighborhood was sealed off for two days and a GANG of cops went door to door and beat women and children and dragged every male off to jail. This type of thing is not uncommon. Happened in the Casa Blanca neighborhood of Riverside as well, back in the late 1970s.