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    Default I still think Berto is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Guerrero

    Guerrero is a very good fighter without any glaring deficiencies, but he doesn't have anything that makes me think he poses a serious risk to Mayweather, barring Mayweather finally starting to slide. He's above average in most areas, but exceptional in none and I don't think he brings anything to the table that we haven't already seem Mayweather deal with.

    While I do not think Berto would beat Mayweather either, I really believe that Berto's handspeed, determination, and power would make for a much more intriguing match.

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    Default Re: I still think Berto is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Guerrero

    These kinda fights are taking a toll on Berto and I think he might want to stay away from hard hitting Mexican southpaws for the rest of his career. I agree with your assessment on both fighters and I do not think Mayweather would ever fight either one of them in this lifetime. Guerrero should fight Tim Bradley 1st then we might see Money May make a move on the winner.

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    I don't think so I think Berto would get knocked down with something and then knocked out seconds after getting up.

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    Default Re: I still think Berto is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Guerrero

    I agree with you about Berto being a more intriguing matchup.

    I don't think either of them has the tools/skills to beat Mayweather (barring Mayweather getting old overnight), but at least with Berto's handspeed and power he has a much better puncher's chance than Guerrero does.

    Both of these guys get potshotted and outboxing by Mayweather all night IMO.

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    Default Re: I still think Berto is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Guerrero

    I thought Aydin would over power Guerrero based on his two Jojo Dan fights. I was dead wrong.
    I thought Berto would be to fast, to big and to strong and would get to Guerrero with punches he did not see. I was dead wrong and actually it was Guerrero who looked the bigger and it was he who was catching Berto from both sides.

    The Mayweathers (Jeff,Sr,Roger and Floyd) do not like southpaws. Many of Floyd's problems have come from southpaws. Its probably why he has perhaps the best right hand from multiple delivery points in the sport.

    I think Guerrero is the more dangerous opponent technically. I've always thought of Berto as a poor mans Shane Mosley only difference being he gets hit more.

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    Default Re: I still think Berto is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Guerrero

    Neither of them beats Mayweather right now. Guerrero is a southpaw, good point, but so was Victor Ortiz. In my opinion, Sergio Martinez has the best chance of beating Mayweather right now if the fight was for Martinez's middleweight belt. I'm not saying Martinez wins, but he's got the best shot at the moment. Canelo is too untested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Neither of them beats Mayweather right now. Guerrero is a southpaw, good point, but so was Victor Ortiz. In my opinion, Sergio Martinez has the best chance of beating Mayweather right now if the fight was for Martinez's middleweight belt. I'm not saying Martinez wins, but he's got the best shot at the moment. Canelo is too untested.
    True but Ortiz is far from a technical fighter like Robert. I don't think either have much of a shot but out of the two Guerrero has the better chance because of his boxing ability. I agree that Martinez has the best shot in the weight area.

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    Default Re: I still think Berto is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Guerrero

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Guerrero is a very good fighter without any glaring deficiencies, but he doesn't have anything that makes me think he poses a serious risk to Mayweather, barring Mayweather finally starting to slide. He's above average in most areas, but exceptional in none and I don't think he brings anything to the table that we haven't already seem Mayweather deal with.

    While I do not think Berto would beat Mayweather either, I really believe that Berto's handspeed, determination, and power would make for a much more intriguing match.


    This.

    Typical case of styles making fights. I also do not believe Berto would beat Floyd.
    But it would be one hell of an entertaining fight.

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    The andre ward thing was a joke just in case it all kicks off..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Guerrero is a very good fighter without any glaring deficiencies, but he doesn't have anything that makes me think he poses a serious risk to Mayweather, barring Mayweather finally starting to slide. He's above average in most areas, but exceptional in none and I don't think he brings anything to the table that we haven't already seem Mayweather deal with.

    While I do not think Berto would beat Mayweather either, I really believe that Berto's handspeed, determination, and power would make for a much more intriguing match.
    Can't follow your reasoning on this post.

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    Default Re: I still think Berto is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Guerrero

    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Guerrero is a very good fighter without any glaring deficiencies, but he doesn't have anything that makes me think he poses a serious risk to Mayweather, barring Mayweather finally starting to slide. He's above average in most areas, but exceptional in none and I don't think he brings anything to the table that we haven't already seem Mayweather deal with.

    While I do not think Berto would beat Mayweather either, I really believe that Berto's handspeed, determination, and power would make for a much more intriguing match.
    Can't follow your reasoning on this post.
    I just think that Berto, a very fast, powerful, and exposive fighter, poses a bigger threat to Mayweather than someone like Guerrero who is very good in all areas, but exceptional in none.

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    Default Re: I still think Berto is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Guerrero

    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Guerrero is a very good fighter without any glaring deficiencies, but he doesn't have anything that makes me think he poses a serious risk to Mayweather, barring Mayweather finally starting to slide. He's above average in most areas, but exceptional in none and I don't think he brings anything to the table that we haven't already seem Mayweather deal with.

    While I do not think Berto would beat Mayweather either, I really believe that Berto's handspeed, determination, and power would make for a much more intriguing match.
    Can't follow your reasoning on this post.
    How are you not following the reasoning when he explained the reason? Styles make fights and CFH is saying that Berto's speed is equal to Mayweather's where as Guerrero isn't better or equal to Floyd in any area. Just because Guerrero beat Berto, it doesn't mean that he'll provide the more difficult challenge/intriguing fight for Mayweather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Guerrero is a very good fighter without any glaring deficiencies, but he doesn't have anything that makes me think he poses a serious risk to Mayweather, barring Mayweather finally starting to slide. He's above average in most areas, but exceptional in none and I don't think he brings anything to the table that we haven't already seem Mayweather deal with.

    While I do not think Berto would beat Mayweather either, I really believe that Berto's handspeed, determination, and power would make for a much more intriguing match.
    Can't follow your reasoning on this post.
    How are you not following the reasoning when he explained the reason? Styles make fights and CFH is saying that Berto's speed is equal to Mayweather's where as Guerrero isn't better or equal to Floyd in any area. Just because Guerrero beat Berto, it doesn't mean that he'll provide the more difficult challenge/intriguing fight for Mayweather.
    Floyd is an exceptional fighter in every way, Berto has good power and speed but he is not anywhere near the level of Floyd. This is just my opinion, but I don't think Berto has the mental toughness to win against Floyd.
    Ortiz beat Berto, Floyd beat Ortiz. The only real difference between Berto and Ortiz is their heritage, they are both punchers who come to KO you. In the ring they are like mirror images of each other.
    There is not enough money in a Berto fight for Floyd, I wouldn't pay to see it. Would you, knowing Berto is going to fail?
    I, like a lot of boxing fans, have been waiting and waiting for Floyd to lose but it's not going to be to Berto, I don't care what his style is he does not have the boxing IQ, in my opinion.
    Guerrero, in my opinion, is the fighter with the style to beat Floyd. I don't think Robert can win against Floyd either, but there is enough doubt in my mind that I'd pay to find out.
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    Default Re: I still think Berto is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Guerrero

    Berto can't deal with people pressuring him. He just goes to the ropes and it takes a lot of his game away. Floyd isn't going to pressure him like that and that would give Berto a puncher's chance, but that's all he'd have.

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    Berto is an HBO/Haymon creation who has impressive raw skills, but absolutely NO clue how to box.

    Mayweather would toy with Berto. Guerrero won't beat Floyd, but at least he's a competent high-level boxer and won't look completely overwhelmed.

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