George Groves turning into David Haye.

[Vendettos]

I saw him vs Anderson and he was flat footed and not stiff but not the most mobile.

I've seen all his fights since and slowly, fight by fight he's starting to move, throw punches and avoid them like Haye and last night it was like watching a small, white, ginger version of David Haye!

I actually like Haye's style so no complaints here.

Anyone else see the change/similarities?

[ross]

Yes iv seen it for a while and no its not a good thing.

Haye has absolutely no head movement, he relies on moving sideways around the ring. George was the same and as slow as Johnson was he was still getting caught and the legs went a few times, just like David

You might get away with no head movement in the heavies but not in the super middles where they are quicker and put punches together better.

[Vendettos]

Yes iv seen it for a while and no its not a good thing.

Haye has absolutely no head movement, he relies on moving sideways around the ring. George was the same and as slow as Johnson was he was still getting caught and the legs went a few times, just like David

You might get away with no head movement in the heavies but not in the super middles where they are quicker and put punches together better.

I never thought about it like that. If that was Froch against him, he'd get walked down, considering old Johnson could do it.

[ross]

Yes iv seen it for a while and no its not a good thing.

Haye has absolutely no head movement, he relies on moving sideways around the ring. George was the same and as slow as Johnson was he was still getting caught and the legs went a few times, just like David

You might get away with no head movement in the heavies but not in the super middles where they are quicker and put punches together better.

I never thought about it like that. If that was Froch against him, he'd get walked down, considering old Johnson could do it.

Exactly, hes far to easy to hit. He even tried goading Johnson on the ropes but gotcaught by not one but 3 right hands!

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Haye had pretty slick head movement.

[ross]

Haye had pretty slick head movement.

When!!!?

Show me a good example pf Haye using his amazing head movement, as in standing in punching range and actually bobbing and weaving as opposed to just walking sideways.

[ross]

Haye had pretty slick head movement.

When!!!?

Show me a good example pf Haye using his amazing head movement, as in standing in punching range and actually bobbing and weaving as opposed to just walking sideways.

Found any examples of Hayes slick head movement yet?

[imp]

Degale will beat groves in a rematch and im not a fan of degale.

[Vendettos]

I disagree, I think DeGale's gotten worse and Groves better since the fight between them.

[Rantcatrat]

I disagree, I think DeGale's gotten worse and Groves better since the fight between them.

Agreed. Just look at the level of DeGale's opposition versus Groves'.

[Dia bando]

I disagree, I think DeGale's gotten worse and Groves better since the fight between them.

Yes you have a good point, I have not been to impressed with DeGale of late he does not seem to have
improved a great deal at all.! Groves on the other hand, seems to be getting better and you would have
to fancy him to beat Abraham.

[0james0]

I disagree, I think DeGale's gotten worse and Groves better since the fight between them.

Yes you have a good point, I have not been to impressed with DeGale of late he does not seem to have
improved a great deal at all.! Groves on the other hand, seems to be getting better and you would have
to fancy him to beat Abraham.

Would be a good fight that, not sure who I'd pick. Not sure if Groves could take his shots if he got caught flush.

[Vendettos]

I disagree, I think DeGale's gotten worse and Groves better since the fight between them.

Yes you have a good point, I have not been to impressed with DeGale of late he does not seem to have
improved a great deal at all.! Groves on the other hand, seems to be getting better and you would have
to fancy him to beat Abraham.

Would be a good fight that, not sure who I'd pick. Not sure if Groves could take his shots if he got caught flush.

Agreed, Anderson's not a banger and he dropped him, and as hugely slowed Johnson just proved Groves is not hard to hit, despite his elusive style.

If he could just take less shots he'd have a chance.

It's like he's still figuring out this style and how to avoid, which is not something to figure out in ring for a world title.

[imp]

Hopefully we get to see it for a third time.

[0james0]

The similarities are there for sure. I'm not sure if Groves has the equivalent speed at his weight that Haye does though.