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    Mike Tyson launches his professional career with a quick beatdown of Hector Mercedes.

    Love him or hate him, there never was or will be another heavyweight who can capture the public's imagination and generate the excitement and revenue that Iron Mike could.

    So for that, I say CHEERS to Tyson. The excitement he brought in the ring more than made up for the chaos and misery he brought outside the ring lol

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    Thumbs up Re: 28 years ago today...

    Y'know, 19 year old Mike Tyson had been a pro for only 8 months when Cus D'Amato died in Nov 1985.
    The first time I ever saw Mike Tyson was on tv the month after, Dec 1985, the Big Sam Scaff fight, and Tyson looked amazing. It was his 14th fight in only 9 months as a pro. They had him fighting 2 fights each month, sometimes even 3 in a month.
    They were developing Tyson, so the opponents were low-level yet, but as the level increased, the knockouts kept coming right up to the world-class level less than a year later. He was demolishing them.



    Phenomenal fighter in 1986, '87, and '88.
    I think his accomplishments earns him a position in the Top 10 Heavyweights of All-Time.
    Youngest Champ of All-Time.
    He unified the division and restored order as there were 3 Champs at the time.
    Next he restored lineage by capturing the lineal Man-Who-Beat-The-Man title by KO'ing Michael Spinks in '88. Tyson also was #1 on the Pound-For-Pound list.
    Dominant fighter for a few years. Everyone knew who was The Man, there was no debate.

    ^ That's enough to earn him a spot.

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    Don't know who the guy in the uppercut gif above is, and I'm not gonna be bothered to find out.


    ^ James Quick Tillis went the distance which was a victory of sorts for Tyson opponents back then. Lose about every rd, but not getting knocked out was the victory.

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    Default Re: 28 years ago today...

    Quote Originally Posted by bradlee180 View Post
    Youngest Champ of All-Time.
    Benitez was the youngest champ; Patterson the youngest holder of THE Heavyweight Championship, Tyson was merely the youngest world title holder at Heavyweight.

    He unified the division and restored order as there were 3 Champs at the time.
    Depends what is meant by 'unified'; for starters he did not beat the WBO and WAA champions...

    Next he restored lineage by capturing the lineal Man-Who-Beat-The-Man title by KO'ing Michael Spinks in '88.
    He won it, he did not restore it, the lineage line arguably goes back to Figg, definitely to Sullivan and Jackson.

    Tyson also was #1 on the Pound-For-Pound list.
    The most subjective title in boxing. Many had Hagler #1 up to the Leonard loss. Then come late 87 Chavez beat Rosario and many had Chavez #1...

    Perhaps it is best to say Tyson was a contender for the honour from the Tucker to the Douglas bout.

    Dominant fighter for a few years. Everyone knew who was The Man, there was no debate.
    'No debate'? Ric Flair may argue with you, and as mentioned Messrs Chavez and Hagler too, in this sport!

    As for your gif, I believe that was Jose Ribalta.
    Last edited by Britkid; 03-07-2013 at 06:05 PM.
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    Forgive me, I neglected to write youngest man to win a version of the Heavyweight Title. EVERYBODY knows Wilfred Benitez is the youngest man inclusive of all weight classes.
    WBO was garbage at the time, nobody gave that Title any respect. It was WBA, WBC, and IBF.

    Lineage was broken because lineal Champ Michael Spinks retired as Champ. He unretired and Tyson destroyed him making Tyson The-Man-Who-Beat-The-Man.
    Ali had beat Leon Spinks, so Ali was The Man.
    Ali retired as Champ, but came back when Holmes was Champ.
    Holmes whupped Ali making Holmes The Man.
    Michael Spinks got the decisions against Holmes making Michael Spinks The Man.
    Michael Spinks retires as Champ, but came back for the huge payday when Tyson was now Champ.
    Mike Tyson destroys Michael Spinks making Mike Tyson The-Man-Who-Beat-The-Man.
    "To be The Man, WOOOOOO, you've gotta beat The Man!"

    In 1989, prior to the 1990 Douglas fight, I distinctly remember Ring Magazine had Mike Tyson at pound-for-pound #1. And I agreed with it that Julio Cesar Chavez was #2. Ultimately Chavez had a better, more consistent career, but for those few years, Tyson had it all.

    And migwetch, that is Jose Ribalta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradlee180 View Post
    Forgive me, I neglected to write youngest man to win a version of the Heavyweight Title. EVERYBODY knows Wilfred Benitez is the youngest man inclusive of all weight classes.
    My Mum does not...

    WBO was garbage at the time, nobody gave that Title any respect. It was WBA, WBC, and IBF.
    The WBO was an off shoot of the WBA, so why were they garbage and the WBA were not? Also as we found out another off shoot of the WBA, the IBF, had a President taking bribes at the time, yet they get respect? And do not get me started on Suliman and his cronies...




    Lineage was broken because lineal Champ Michael Spinks retired as Champ.
    Spinks did not retire pre Tyson, with the exception of a short period in the late 1970's. I think you are getting confused when the Jinx gave up the IBF crown to fight Cooney. Then Spinks was debating whether to have the knee surgery he required, as the Tyson fight did not look like happening, on his and Lewis' terms.



    In 1989, prior to the 1990 Douglas fight, I distinctly remember Ring Magazine had Mike Tyson at pound-for-pound #1.
    Alas, not so:



    Sorry about that, it is an old scan, and I do not have the original magazine now.

    But here is The Ring's first offical pound for pound rankings:



    Now, although there is no date, Carbajal was 32-2, which meant the rankings began around early 1995...
    "Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bradlee180 View Post
    Forgive me, I neglected to write youngest man to win a version of the Heavyweight Title. EVERYBODY knows Wilfred Benitez is the youngest man inclusive of all weight classes.
    My Mum does not...

    WBO was garbage at the time, nobody gave that Title any respect. It was WBA, WBC, and IBF.
    The WBO was an off shoot of the WBA, so why were they garbage and the WBA were not? Also as we found out another off shoot of the WBA, the IBF, had a President taking bribes at the time, yet they get respect? And do not get me started on Suliman and his cronies...




    Lineage was broken because lineal Champ Michael Spinks retired as Champ.
    Spinks did not retire pre Tyson, with the exception of a short period in the late 1970's. I think you are getting confused when the Jinx gave up the IBF crown to fight Cooney. Then Spinks was debating whether to have the knee surgery he required, as the Tyson fight did not look like happening, on his and Lewis' terms.



    In 1989, prior to the 1990 Douglas fight, I distinctly remember Ring Magazine had Mike Tyson at pound-for-pound #1.
    Alas, not so:



    Sorry about that, it is an old scan, and I do not have the original magazine now.

    But here is The Ring's first offical pound for pound rankings:



    Now, although there is no date, Carbajal was 32-2, which meant the rankings began around early 1995...
    Well Steve Farhhod the old editor of the ring says
    “I voted for Tyson, and he's a definite first-ballot Hall of Famer,” Showtime boxing analyst Steve Farhood told me. As editor of KO Magazine and also former editor of The RING, Farhood covered Tyson’s pro career from the earliest stages.

    “Those who don't think so are practicing revisionist history,” Farhood said. “I laugh when I read how Tyson was an underachiever and should have been dominant for much longer. First of all, he was not only the top heavyweight in the world, and the first undisputed champion in years, but he was the No. 1-ranked fighter in the game, pound for pound. And to secure that position, he beat the No. 2, Michael Spinks.”

    Tyson worthy of his hall of fame induction | RingTV

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    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bradlee180 View Post
    Forgive me, I neglected to write youngest man to win a version of the Heavyweight Title. EVERYBODY knows Wilfred Benitez is the youngest man inclusive of all weight classes.
    My Mum does not...

    WBO was garbage at the time, nobody gave that Title any respect. It was WBA, WBC, and IBF.
    The WBO was an off shoot of the WBA, so why were they garbage and the WBA were not? Also as we found out another off shoot of the WBA, the IBF, had a President taking bribes at the time, yet they get respect? And do not get me started on Suliman and his cronies...




    Lineage was broken because lineal Champ Michael Spinks retired as Champ.
    Spinks did not retire pre Tyson, with the exception of a short period in the late 1970's. I think you are getting confused when the Jinx gave up the IBF crown to fight Cooney. Then Spinks was debating whether to have the knee surgery he required, as the Tyson fight did not look like happening, on his and Lewis' terms.



    In 1989, prior to the 1990 Douglas fight, I distinctly remember Ring Magazine had Mike Tyson at pound-for-pound #1.
    Alas, not so:



    Sorry about that, it is an old scan, and I do not have the original magazine now.

    But here is The Ring's first offical pound for pound rankings:



    Now, although there is no date, Carbajal was 32-2, which meant the rankings began around early 1995...
    Pretty certain that was July of 95' and awarded days prior to his fight with Vasquez and stayed ahead of Jones jr until mid 96. Only belt he came in with that night I think as the crook Sullie'dman made the WBC 'unavailable' for whatever reason.

    Have never understood or put much stock into P4P myself. Its all very up for interpretation and somewhat of a marketing tag line. Though the Rings intention was to call BS on the alphabet boys and recongnize who they deemed the very best with no smoking mirrors and massaged rankings.

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    Brit kid knows his junk! Can we argue tyson was the most exciting heavyweight? At least of my lifetime anyway.

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    Many talk of his power and speed... But his peek a boo defense was such a thrill to watch.

    Please dont bring Wlad into this..

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