Riddles part 3

[CutMeMick]

Give it a try...

Emile Griffith by palmerq
A) I come from pride and hope and I've carried that with me throughout my 100+ fights. I'm #1 in the place I come from the person closest to me could never get off the ground and fly to my greatness. I guess you can say my introduction to the ring was by coincidence. I took my shirt off and next thing you know I'm in a ring. I did well as amateur so I turned pro. I lost 2 fights early on but that didn't bother me. I racked up some solid wins beating an indigenous fella, after that you can say I tamed two distant cousins. I then faced the ugliest guy around and left him looking worst.
Hint1: I'm recognized as a 2 division champ but technically I won 3.

Who Am I?

Joe Walcott by IamInuit
B) To explain where I come from you'd have to go back to the 1800's as it's difficult to explain. So to make it general I'll say south america. I was born near a long river. Don't let my height fool you I threw leather around with whomever they put infront of me which is why I was given such a dark nickname. Some of the opponents I faced you can't even find a complete record or full name but that's not to say I didn't face the best. In my first shot at the title a stupid agreement my manager made possibly cost me the win. I tried again for the title and the kid stopped me this time around. As I fought towards another shot I beat a mysterious looking guy as well as a young one. I finally captured a world title winning via 5th rd TKO.
Hint1: I drew twice after that and lost twice. One of the loses was to one of Philadelphias finest.

Who Am I?

[IamInuit]

I have to stay away from these things,

A is Jimmy Wilde no?

[CutMeMick]

I have to stay away from these things,

A is Jimmy Wilde no?

@IamInuit sorry it is not Wilde...

Stay away? Why?

[IamInuit]

I have to stay away from these things,

A is Jimmy Wilde no?

@IamInuit sorry it is not Wilde...

Stay away? Why?

Addictive and I lose track of time.

[IamInuit]

B Tommy Ryan

[Spicoli]

2 sounds like Ryan.

[CutMeMick]

B Tommy Ryan

@IamInuit sorry it is not Ryan...


@Spicoli see above...

I will add a hint tomorrow.

[palmerq]

Give it a try...

Emile Griffith by palmerq
A) I come from pride and hope and I've carried that with me throughout my 100+ fights. I'm #1 in the place I come from the person closest to me could never get off the ground and fly to my greatness. I guess you can say my introduction to the ring was by coincidence. I took my shirt off and next thing you know I'm in a ring. I did well as amateur so I turned pro. I lost 2 fights early on but that didn't bother me. I racked up some solid wins beating an indigenous fella, after that you can say I tamed two distant cousins. I then faced the ugliest guy around and left him looking worst.
Hint1: I'm recognized as a 2 division champ but technically I won 3.

pride and hope is the motto for the us virgin islands.. so after that it is simple.... a quick search on boxrec tells me emile griffiths is by far and away the best from there and the guy rated 2nd of all time had the nickname of the hawk(or some other bird, i have forgotten already)..

the taking the shirt off bit is about griffith working working in a factory and was he hot so the manager let him work shirtless and some fellow spotted potential in his frame( :S) and took him to a boxing gym and that was that.. on his record he beat 2 fellows with the same surname then a chap with the nick name the ugly... not sure about the indigenous part though...

[CutMeMick]

Give it a try...

Emile Griffith by palmerq
A) I come from pride and hope and I've carried that with me throughout my 100+ fights. I'm #1 in the place I come from the person closest to me could never get off the ground and fly to my greatness. I guess you can say my introduction to the ring was by coincidence. I took my shirt off and next thing you know I'm in a ring. I did well as amateur so I turned pro. I lost 2 fights early on but that didn't bother me. I racked up some solid wins beating an indigenous fella, after that you can say I tamed two distant cousins. I then faced the ugliest guy around and left him looking worst.
Hint1: I'm recognized as a 2 division champ but technically I won 3.

pride and hope is the motto for the us virgin islands.. so after that it is simple.... a quick search on boxrec tells me emile griffiths is by far and away the best from there and the guy rated 2nd of all time had the nickname of the hawk(or some other bird, i have forgotten already)..

the taking the shirt off bit is about griffith working working in a factory and was he hot so the manager let him work shirtless and some fellow spotted potential in his frame( :S) and took him to a boxing gym and that was that.. on his record he beat 2 fellows with the same surname then a chap with the nick name the ugly... not sure about the indigenous part though...

@palmerq spot on...

I come from "pride & hope" - Part of the Virgin Islands motto.
#1 the place I come from - The best from the Virgin Islands second would be Julian Jackson (The Hawk) Could never get off the ground and fly to my greatness.
While working at a hat factory on a hot day he took his shirt off and his boss noticed his physique then took him to Gil Clancy to train.
Fought NY Golden Gloves and won.
Indigenous fella - Gaspar "Indian" Ortega
Two distant cousins - Jorge J. Fernandez known as The Bull of Pompeya & Florentino Fernandez known as The Ox... Bull & Ox are distant cousins.
Ugliest guy around - Luis M. Rodriguez known as El Feo (Ugly).

[CutMeMick]

Joe Walcott is from a small colony in Guayana which over time has been ruled by different countries. It's located in South America.
He was born in Demanara near a long river.
Stood at just 5' 1-1/2" tall
Was known for fighting anyone despite their height/weight advantage
Dark nickname known as the Barbados Demon
He has some opponents which don't have a complete name or record
In his 1st shot at the title his manager agreed that if Walcott didn't KO the opponent Walcott would be declared the loser. Walcott did not KO him and lost.
The kid stopped me this time around - Kid Lavigne
I beat a mysterious looking guy - Mysterious Billy Smith
As well as a young one - Young Peter Jackson
Won his 1st title when he TKO'd James "Rube" Ferns in the 5th round.