How do you apply the Jack Dempsey drop/trigger step to the right cross/left hook?

[OMGWTF]

This is a hard one I bet not many can answer.

Applying the drop/trigger step to the jab is easy. But say if I want to drop step fowards as I throw a straight right how on earth is that done? Same for the left hook how do I drop step in and throw the left hook?

The problem im find with the straight right is my weight has to be on the lead leg from the beginning to activate the drop/trigger step. Then my weight is propelled via my back foot foward and down and it all gets really heavily loaded onto the front foot, so with a normal straight right the weight starts on the back foot and transfers to the front and this adds alot of power, but with the drop step the weight is pretty much always fowards.

So its like I get a power boost from the drop step then a huge loss of power from the lack of rear leg to front leg rotational weight transfer.

[greynotsoold]

The drop/trigger is also often referred to as the falling step...See what I mean? Your weight is basically 'falling' forward, not twisting or rotating. You can't 'fall' forward and throw a left hook, as the weight needs to get going in a different direction. You can 'step' in and hook, but bring your right foot up, maybe slide it to the right a wee bit, so the weight has a place to go.

[OMGWTF]

The drop/trigger is also often referred to as the falling step...See what I mean? Your weight is basically 'falling' forward, not twisting or rotating. You can't 'fall' forward and throw a left hook, as the weight needs to get going in a different direction. You can 'step' in and hook, but bring your right foot up, maybe slide it to the right a wee bit, so the weight has a place to go.

Ok thankyou so for the left hook I would have to fall to my right.

What about the falling step for the straight right? I cant rotate my hips very well or get the normal hip weight transfer AS I do the falling step fowards. Hows it done?

[greynotsoold]

The drop/trigger is also often referred to as the falling step...See what I mean? Your weight is basically 'falling' forward, not twisting or rotating. You can't 'fall' forward and throw a left hook, as the weight needs to get going in a different direction. You can 'step' in and hook, but bring your right foot up, maybe slide it to the right a wee bit, so the weight has a place to go.

Ok thankyou so for the left hook I would have to fall to my right.

What about the falling step for the straight right? I cant rotate my hips very well or get the normal hip weight transfer AS I do the falling step fowards. Hows it done?

I read one description that had it this way: Put all your weight on the left foot, lean so far up on the left foot that you are about to fall over. Then take a giant step forward with the left foot. I suspect that that was meant as an exaggeration to get the feel of the move and then to be refined later.
Try this instead...You know how, when you are doing footwork drills, you move in small steps? Start moving in big gliding motions, like a fencer. You're pushing off of that rear foot. Get in the habit of moving your hands and feet together- so when you push off and the left foot moves, move the left hand with it, drive the arm straight out. When you bring up the right foot, you are throwing the straight right, driving it all the way out. All your weight is coming forward; do it a few times and you'll start getting a feel for how you have to get your weight over your left leg. I could show you in a minute or two but I don't think I could possibly explain it typing.
The things about doing it that way, is that it is a very graceful move and maintains balance. And you can instantly slide back out of range...in fact, try it going forward and then backward to get the feel and your balance before you try it with the punches.

[OMGWTF]

The drop/trigger is also often referred to as the falling step...See what I mean? Your weight is basically 'falling' forward, not twisting or rotating. You can't 'fall' forward and throw a left hook, as the weight needs to get going in a different direction. You can 'step' in and hook, but bring your right foot up, maybe slide it to the right a wee bit, so the weight has a place to go.

Ok thankyou so for the left hook I would have to fall to my right.

What about the falling step for the straight right? I cant rotate my hips very well or get the normal hip weight transfer AS I do the falling step fowards. Hows it done?

I read one description that had it this way: Put all your weight on the left foot, lean so far up on the left foot that you are about to fall over. Then take a giant step forward with the left foot. I suspect that that was meant as an exaggeration to get the feel of the move and then to be refined later.
Try this instead...You know how, when you are doing footwork drills, you move in small steps? Start moving in big gliding motions, like a fencer. You're pushing off of that rear foot. Get in the habit of moving your hands and feet together- so when you push off and the left foot moves, move the left hand with it, drive the arm straight out. When you bring up the right foot, you are throwing the straight right, driving it all the way out. All your weight is coming forward; do it a few times and you'll start getting a feel for how you have to get your weight over your left leg. I could show you in a minute or two but I don't think I could possibly explain it typing.
The things about doing it that way, is that it is a very graceful move and maintains balance. And you can instantly slide back out of range...in fact, try it going forward and then backward to get the feel and your balance before you try it with the punches.

I dont see how this helps, it just makes everything more subtle, its great for normal footwork it keeps your weight nice and even and its fast, but it makes the drop step more subtle and therefore less powerful and it makes my weight transfer problem less of a problem but its still the same problem just a more subtle version, instead of all my weight on my front foot, now most of it is but not all of it, so im no further foward its still the same problem. That dosnt help at all.

[greynotsoold]

The drop/trigger is also often referred to as the falling step...See what I mean? Your weight is basically 'falling' forward, not twisting or rotating. You can't 'fall' forward and throw a left hook, as the weight needs to get going in a different direction. You can 'step' in and hook, but bring your right foot up, maybe slide it to the right a wee bit, so the weight has a place to go.

Ok thankyou so for the left hook I would have to fall to my right.

What about the falling step for the straight right? I cant rotate my hips very well or get the normal hip weight transfer AS I do the falling step fowards. Hows it done?

I read one description that had it this way: Put all your weight on the left foot, lean so far up on the left foot that you are about to fall over. Then take a giant step forward with the left foot. I suspect that that was meant as an exaggeration to get the feel of the move and then to be refined later.
Try this instead...You know how, when you are doing footwork drills, you move in small steps? Start moving in big gliding motions, like a fencer. You're pushing off of that rear foot. Get in the habit of moving your hands and feet together- so when you push off and the left foot moves, move the left hand with it, drive the arm straight out. When you bring up the right foot, you are throwing the straight right, driving it all the way out. All your weight is coming forward; do it a few times and you'll start getting a feel for how you have to get your weight over your left leg. I could show you in a minute or two but I don't think I could possibly explain it typing.
The things about doing it that way, is that it is a very graceful move and maintains balance. And you can instantly slide back out of range...in fact, try it going forward and then backward to get the feel and your balance before you try it with the punches.

I dont see how this helps, it just makes everything more subtle, its great for normal footwork it keeps your weight nice and even and its fast, but it makes the drop step more subtle and therefore less powerful and it makes my weight transfer problem less of a problem but its still the same problem just a more subtle version, instead of all my weight on my front foot, now most of it is but not all of it, so im no further foward its still the same problem. That dosnt help at all.

Did you try the move? Especially with the right hand? Your weight will be coming forward just about as much as it possibly can; you don't actually want to fall down, you know? You have to be in a position, balance-wise, to make the next move, whether that move is to throw a left hook, to retreat out of range, or to bob under a counter. But try it- push off that back foot and get your body moving forward, throw the straight right as your right foot is coming up. Your weight will be as forward as it can get without you going over face first (and you'll find/feel the spot where your hips need to turn. I was just doing this in my living room), and you'll end up in a spot where you can do something else next.
Maybe I'm not explaining this well; I know that if you and I were in the same room I could show you and you would get it. Keep in mind...all that weight coming forward needs a turning point to make it useful, to get it going in the direction it needs to go in. When you slide forward- and really propel yourself- that left foot, when it lands, provides that point. I know I'm not explaining this well...The weight comes up from behind. It goes over the left leg which is the pivot point; from that point on the weight is moving forward and focused on the right fist. Try the move, see how it flows, and how you maintain balance.

[SugarBoxing]

This is a hard one I bet not many can answer.

Applying the drop/trigger step to the jab is easy. But say if I want to drop step fowards as I throw a straight right how on earth is that done? Same for the left hook how do I drop step in and throw the left hook?

The problem im find with the straight right is my weight has to be on the lead leg from the beginning to activate the drop/trigger step. Then my weight is propelled via my back foot foward and down and it all gets really heavily loaded onto the front foot, so with a normal straight right the weight starts on the back foot and transfers to the front and this adds alot of power, but with the drop step the weight is pretty much always fowards.

So its like I get a power boost from the drop step then a huge loss of power from the lack of rear leg to front leg rotational weight transfer.

I am not saying it is not possible, I just quote jack more or less that you gotta direct your weight in the direction of the punch. In case of a hook, the direction of the punch and the direction of weight transfer by the drop-step you use for jab are basically perperndicular.

[OMGWTF]

This is a hard one I bet not many can answer.

Applying the drop/trigger step to the jab is easy. But say if I want to drop step fowards as I throw a straight right how on earth is that done? Same for the left hook how do I drop step in and throw the left hook?

The problem im find with the straight right is my weight has to be on the lead leg from the beginning to activate the drop/trigger step. Then my weight is propelled via my back foot foward and down and it all gets really heavily loaded onto the front foot, so with a normal straight right the weight starts on the back foot and transfers to the front and this adds alot of power, but with the drop step the weight is pretty much always fowards.

So its like I get a power boost from the drop step then a huge loss of power from the lack of rear leg to front leg rotational weight transfer.

I am not saying it is not possible, I just quote jack more or less that you gotta direct your weight in the direction of the punch. In case of a hook, the direction of the punch and the direction of weight transfer by the drop-step you use for jab are basically perperndicular.

Got it makes sense fall in the direction of the punches power. So how do a fall/drop step fowards and throw the straight right? because I cant rotate my hips as im falling its like trying to rotate them in mid air. Also if I rotate them when I land heavily on my front foot there is nothing on them because my weight is already foward!