Career advice for David Price

[El Kabong]

I've already assessed the rematch loss Price suffered at the hands of Tony Thompson. At age 29, Price still has time to get his shit back together and make a run at the titles. Wladimir Klitschko went through a similar run of bad luck in losing to Sanders and Brewster when he was about 27/28 years old so Price CAN get better if his heart is in it.

First off Price must address the problems he had vs Tony Thompson. Stamina is the biggest issue that jumps out to most folks, but I believe Price was in solid shape and his poor stamina was actually a result of panic caused by a combination of Thompson's constant pressure and the fact that Thompson got up after a good hard knockdown seemed to take the wind out of Price's sails...very similar to the Wlad-Brewster I fight. Another point people will no doubt bring up is the pawing ineffective jab...I would concur HOWEVER Thompson is a southpaw so I think that should be noted.

Manny Steward God rest his soul, would have been the PERFECT trainer for Price. Lanky, big power, dodgy chin & stamina. And that no doubt would have been the "easy fix", just sign up with Manny and get to training. Now that Manny is no longer with us Price has fewer options especially with proven trainers. I think it would be best for Price to stick with his current trainer and maybe bring in a special coach like Lennox Lewis or Hell work with Wladimir Klitschko and Jonathan Banks, they know what they are doing. The advice given to Price was correct, the training seemed good enough for him to get a KO win as a result, I think the overwhelming majority of work needed to be done on David Price is psychological.

Price has to get used to the fact that everyone will ASSUME Tony Thompson has just blueprinted how to beat David Price. Well that's the great news for Price and I'll tell you why. NOW HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT TO TRAIN FOR. Everyone will come in straight at him and try to wear him down (guys are STILL attempting that vs Wladimir even though his loss to Brewster was 8 or 9 years ago!). Now Price has to re-learn to accept that certain guys you just won't be able to KO, you'll come across some fighters who have a very good chin or an exceptional defense and what you must focus on isn't HURTING your opponent but SCORING clean punches. Keep touching the opponent up and win rounds! Pump the jab, land the right cross, keep distance at your advantage, LEARN TO TIE UP! Don't be afraid to take a knee to gather yourself.

OK, now on to his career path. How to work your way back to get a title shot. #1 take some months off, rest, recovery, and then get back to working on climbing that ladder!

Opponents: You want a guy with no chin first to just get back on the winning streak, then you want guys with solid chin but no power, and then you build on from there. Get rounds in, learn the new elements to your fight plan and I would say that around this time in 2014 David Price should fight Tyson Fury and should humiliate him.

All is not lost for Price, he can do 2 things he can either recover and get better or he can accept that right now he's a broken fighter.

[denilson200]

I've already assessed the rematch loss Price suffered at the hands of Tony Thompson. At age 29, Price still has time to get his shit back together and make a run at the titles. Wladimir Klitschko went through a similar run of bad luck in losing to Sanders and Brewster when he was about 27/28 years old so Price CAN get better if his heart is in it.

First off Price must address the problems he had vs Tony Thompson. Stamina is the biggest issue that jumps out to most folks, but I believe Price was in solid shape and his poor stamina was actually a result of panic caused by a combination of Thompson's constant pressure and the fact that Thompson got up after a good hard knockdown seemed to take the wind out of Price's sails...very similar to the Wlad-Brewster I fight. Another point people will no doubt bring up is the pawing ineffective jab...I would concur HOWEVER Thompson is a southpaw so I think that should be noted.

Manny Steward God rest his soul, would have been the PERFECT trainer for Price. Lanky, big power, dodgy chin & stamina. And that no doubt would have been the "easy fix", just sign up with Manny and get to training. Now that Manny is no longer with us Price has fewer options especially with proven trainers. I think it would be best for Price to stick with his current trainer and maybe bring in a special coach like Lennox Lewis or Hell work with Wladimir Klitschko and Jonathan Banks, they know what they are doing. The advice given to Price was correct, the training seemed good enough for him to get a KO win as a result, I think the overwhelming majority of work needed to be done on David Price is psychological.

Price has to get used to the fact that everyone will ASSUME Tony Thompson has just blueprinted how to beat David Price. Well that's the great news for Price and I'll tell you why. NOW HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT TO TRAIN FOR. Everyone will come in straight at him and try to wear him down (guys are STILL attempting that vs Wladimir even though his loss to Brewster was 8 or 9 years ago!). Now Price has to re-learn to accept that certain guys you just won't be able to KO, you'll come across some fighters who have a very good chin or an exceptional defense and what you must focus on isn't HURTING your opponent but SCORING clean punches. Keep touching the opponent up and win rounds! Pump the jab, land the right cross, keep distance at your advantage, LEARN TO TIE UP! Don't be afraid to take a knee to gather yourself.

OK, now on to his career path. How to work your way back to get a title shot. #1 take some months off, rest, recovery, and then get back to working on climbing that ladder!

Opponents: You want a guy with no chin first to just get back on the winning streak, then you want guys with solid chin but no power, and then you build on from there. Get rounds in, learn the new elements to your fight plan and I would say that around this time in 2014 David Price should fight Tyson Fury and should humiliate him.

All is not lost for Price, he can do 2 things he can either recover and get better or he can accept that right now he's a broken fighter.

Are you Price's bank manager or David Price himself or didn't you just watch the fight ?

Comparing Price's defeat to Wladimir Klitschko's is not accurate as Klitschko had already won the WBO heavyweight title when he lost to Brewster and Sanders.

I can't think of any fighter of note that has had back to back defeats ON HIS WAY UP and gone on to achieve anything in boxing.

Honestly. I know you are trying to spin something positive out of this but getting beat by Tony Thompson twice ? Well that speaks for itself really.

[El Kabong]

Are you Price's bank manager or David Price himself or didn't you just watch the fight ?

Comparing Price's defeat to Wladimir Klitschko's is not accurate as Klitschko had already won the WBO heavyweight title when he lost to Brewster and Sanders.

I can't think of any fighter of note that has had back to back defeats ON HIS WAY UP and gone on to achieve anything in boxing.

Honestly. I know you are trying to spin something positive out of this but getting beat by Tony Thompson twice ? Well that speaks for itself really.

#1 No, I never even really took time to form an opinion of whether or not I like David Price, all I know is he's an easier guy to like than Haye or Fury.

#2 Sure Wlad already had a high pedigree having won a title before, but 15 fights in and fighting one of the better heavyweights out there is nothing to make fun of. Thompson has been avoided for a large majority of his career and for good reason. He's a 6'6 southpaw, with top defense, and a solid chin. Wladimir Klitschko is the ONLY guy to KO Tony Thompson and the only other loss Thompson has besides the 2 to Wlad was waaaaay back in his 5th pro fight. So that says something about Thompson. I'm comparing the mental/psychological state of Price to the Wlad that lost to Brewster and it's a spot on comparison.

#3 Let's see back to back defeats on the way up? Hall of Famer Carmen Basilio lost back-to-back fights 3 different times in his career before he went on to win the welterweight and middleweight titles. I'm certain there are other cases of this.

#4 Tony Thompson is a very good heavyweight, he's criminally underrated. I'd favor him over pretty much anyone not named Klitschko.

[denilson200]

Are you Price's bank manager or David Price himself or didn't you just watch the fight ?

Comparing Price's defeat to Wladimir Klitschko's is not accurate as Klitschko had already won the WBO heavyweight title when he lost to Brewster and Sanders.

I can't think of any fighter of note that has had back to back defeats ON HIS WAY UP and gone on to achieve anything in boxing.

Honestly. I know you are trying to spin something positive out of this but getting beat by Tony Thompson twice ? Well that speaks for itself really.

#1 No, I never even really took time to form an opinion of whether or not I like David Price, all I know is he's an easier guy to like than Haye or Fury.

#2 Sure Wlad already had a high pedigree having won a title before, but 15 fights in and fighting one of the better heavyweights out there is nothing to make fun of. Thompson has been avoided for a large majority of his career and for good reason. He's a 6'6 southpaw, with top defense, and a solid chin. Wladimir Klitschko is the ONLY guy to KO Tony Thompson and the only other loss Thompson has besides the 2 to Wlad was waaaaay back in his 5th pro fight. So that says something about Thompson. I'm comparing the mental/psychological state of Price to the Wlad that lost to Brewster and it's a spot on comparison.

#3 Let's see back to back defeats on the way up? Hall of Famer Carmen Basilio lost back-to-back fights 3 different times in his career before he went on to win the welterweight and middleweight titles. I'm certain there are other cases of this.

#4 Tony Thompson is a very good heavyweight, he's criminally underrated. I'd favor him over pretty much anyone not named Klitschko.

Carmen Basilo ? Wow. Good research. You know your S**T. Where you did you dig that up ?

But did Carmen Basilo have back to back defeats on his way up ?

Really ?

According to boxrec.com the back to back defeats he had were in his 27th fight - Hardly on the way up. But I suppose a fighter had to fight a lot more on his way up in them days as world title shots were harder to get than they are now. You had to earn your stripes but nevertheless I will give you that.

The problem is I didn't really explain myself

David Price has had KO back to back defeats

My point (And I didn't really explain it properly) is that there is not a fighter in the history of boxing that has had KO back defeats ON THERE WAY UP and gone on to achieve anything in boxing

There is a challenge for you my friend

[Silkeyjoe]

I've already assessed the rematch loss Price suffered at the hands of Tony Thompson. At age 29, Price still has time to get his shit back together and make a run at the titles. Wladimir Klitschko went through a similar run of bad luck in losing to Sanders and Brewster when he was about 27/28 years old so Price CAN get better if his heart is in it.

First off Price must address the problems he had vs Tony Thompson. Stamina is the biggest issue that jumps out to most folks, but I believe Price was in solid shape and his poor stamina was actually a result of panic caused by a combination of Thompson's constant pressure and the fact that Thompson got up after a good hard knockdown seemed to take the wind out of Price's sails...very similar to the Wlad-Brewster I fight. Another point people will no doubt bring up is the pawing ineffective jab...I would concur HOWEVER Thompson is a southpaw so I think that should be noted.

Manny Steward God rest his soul, would have been the PERFECT trainer for Price. Lanky, big power, dodgy chin & stamina. And that no doubt would have been the "easy fix", just sign up with Manny and get to training. Now that Manny is no longer with us Price has fewer options especially with proven trainers. I think it would be best for Price to stick with his current trainer and maybe bring in a special coach like Lennox Lewis or Hell work with Wladimir Klitschko and Jonathan Banks, they know what they are doing. The advice given to Price was correct, the training seemed good enough for him to get a KO win as a result, I think the overwhelming majority of work needed to be done on David Price is psychological.

Price has to get used to the fact that everyone will ASSUME Tony Thompson has just blueprinted how to beat David Price. Well that's the great news for Price and I'll tell you why. NOW HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT TO TRAIN FOR. Everyone will come in straight at him and try to wear him down (guys are STILL attempting that vs Wladimir even though his loss to Brewster was 8 or 9 years ago!). Now Price has to re-learn to accept that certain guys you just won't be able to KO, you'll come across some fighters who have a very good chin or an exceptional defense and what you must focus on isn't HURTING your opponent but SCORING clean punches. Keep touching the opponent up and win rounds! Pump the jab, land the right cross, keep distance at your advantage, LEARN TO TIE UP! Don't be afraid to take a knee to gather yourself.

OK, now on to his career path. How to work your way back to get a title shot. #1 take some months off, rest, recovery, and then get back to working on climbing that ladder!

Opponents: You want a guy with no chin first to just get back on the winning streak, then you want guys with solid chin but no power, and then you build on from there. Get rounds in, learn the new elements to your fight plan and I would say that around this time in 2014 David Price should fight Tyson Fury and should humiliate him.

All is not lost for Price, he can do 2 things he can either recover and get better or he can accept that right now he's a broken fighter.

Are you Price's bank manager or David Price himself or didn't you just watch the fight ?

Comparing Price's defeat to Wladimir Klitschko's is not accurate as Klitschko had already won the WBO heavyweight title when he lost to Brewster and Sanders.

I can't think of any fighter of note that has had back to back defeats ON HIS WAY UP and gone on to achieve anything in boxing.

Honestly. I know you are trying to spin something positive out of this but getting beat by Tony Thompson twice ? Well that speaks for itself really.

Orlando Salido had 2 losses in a row twice early in his career!

[El Kabong]

Manny Pacquiao lost twice by KO early on in his career before ever winning a title. Granted they weren't back to back defeats but still the point being Price can recover

[Beanz]

Its a brilliant post and makes a lot of very salient points. One thing though that I can't agree with it and still seems to be spoken as though it is a cast iron truth and that is the idea that Price has a dodgy chin. He took a hellacious shellacking from Thompson who landed a barrage of power punches.Uppercuts, hooks, crosses all landed On Price's head , his jaw, his body pretty much anywhere he pleased and he still couldn't bring the big man down.

"dont get anxious or try going for a shootout start using your jab and your feet a bit more" Franny his coach knew what Price needed to do but I think David was so paranoid about getting hit on the ear and going down that he abandoned the game plan and used up too much nervous energy. Until the final round it was certainly not an abject performance and many of the shots Price threw and landed would have finished a lesser man than Thompson. He'll be back.

[El Kabong]

Its a brilliant post and makes a lot of very salient points. One thing though that I can't agree with it and still seems to be spoken as though it is a cast iron truth and that is the idea that Price has a dodgy chin. He took a hellacious shellacking from Thompson who landed a barrage of power punches.Uppercuts, hooks, crosses all landed On Price's head , his jaw, his body pretty much anywhere he pleased and he still couldn't bring the big man down.

"dont get anxious or try going for a shootout start using your jab and your feet a bit more" Franny his coach new what Price needed to do but I think David was so paranoid about getting hit on the ear and going down that he abandoned the game plan and used up too much nervous energy. Until the final round it was certainly not an abject performance and many of the shots Price threw and landed would have finished a lesser man than Thompson. He'll be back.

You could tell Price was tensed up and that could have been because he was amped to land the big homerun punch that redeemed himself or because he had the punch that ended his last fight on his mind.

Price just needs to settle down, relearn how to get comfortable in the ring, and just put the work in to being a more technically sound boxer. Given his size and power if he just focused on the bare bones basics of boxing he would rarely be tested. Snap the punches out, snap them back, keep your range, push off/tie up, use your weight, there are just so many very simple tactics he could use that would make him better than he has been.

Tony Thompson should fight the winner of Haye-Fury and IMO he'd be the favorite to beat both of those guys. He's too sound technically for Fury to take advantage of him ditto for Haye. Haye is very unconventional in how he fights and 1 big punch at a time won't bother Thompson's defense, you have to work to open him up. Thompson's jab alone would see him win those fights (given fair judging)

[p4pking]

That's all incredibly optimistic, I don't buy it whatsoever myself. Price isn't a Lennox or Wladimir, he is nowhere near that good or dynamic offensively in the first place and his flaws are not something he'll be able to fight around so easily. Whether it was his mentality foremost, or his stamina actually sucks and he has no idea how to react under pressure, it's still going to rear itself in future bouts because he isn't talented enough to control fights like those great HWs.

It wasn't a lot like Wlad against Brewster, because he was at no point dominating for a length of time, he didn't merely gas himself out but was getting hit well to the body from the start. Until we've seen him in with another fighter who can actually land something decent, I think it's a stretch to say it was all upstairs, or that he did it to himself via nerves. I think that's actually selling Thompson quite short, who obviously came in with a game plan to pressure him early and never had any trouble finding a home for his shots.

[Fenster]

Its a brilliant post and makes a lot of very salient points. One thing though that I can't agree with it and still seems to be spoken as though it is a cast iron truth and that is the idea that Price has a dodgy chin. He took a hellacious shellacking from Thompson who landed a barrage of power punches.Uppercuts, hooks, crosses all landed On Price's head , his jaw, his body pretty much anywhere he pleased and he still couldn't bring the big man down.

"dont get anxious or try going for a shootout start using your jab and your feet a bit more" Franny his coach new what Price needed to do but I think David was so paranoid about getting hit on the ear and going down that he abandoned the game plan and used up too much nervous energy. Until the final round it was certainly not an abject performance and many of the shots Price threw and landed would have finished a lesser man than Thompson. He'll be back.

[ninjaspy3]

I think this is some very good advice. As many already suggested, I too think that Price took to large a jump in opponent skill level. Ans fighting Thompson again was a big gamble. Price's team totally miscalculated what they were dealing with in Thompson.

[Master]

He is humble enough to start again and work his way back up.

[imp]

Adam booth has done a fantastic job with haye and so far great things with groves so that comment can be ignored.

Price can possibly come back but as someone mentioned this is a waaaaay past it tony thompson who beat him up TWICE.

Price might not have it him anymore and his prime might have passed.

You dont need to be in your forties to have past your prime.
Amir khan is a lovely guy with great talent but IMHO he has passed his prime.

I think we should just all get behind the most exciting british fighter at the moment and thats tyson fury.
He has no stamina issues and just needs a prime trainer to make him so much more.

[Beanz]

Adam booth has done a fantastic job with haye and so far great things with groves so that comment can be ignored.

Price can possibly come back but as someone mentioned this is a waaaaay past it tony thompson who beat him up TWICE.

Price might not have it him anymore and his prime might have passed.

You dont need to be in your forties to have past your prime.
Amir khan is a lovely guy with great talent but IMHO he has passed his prime.

I think we should just all get behind the most exciting british fighter at the moment and thats tyson fury.
He has no stamina issues and just needs a prime trainer to make him so much more.

The most exciting British fighter at any point in the whole of history has never been and never will be Tyson Fury. He thinks he Irish so why should any Brit get behind him? Here are a list of some fighters better than Tyson Fury from the UK

Scott Quigg
Carl Froch
David Haye
George Groves
Darren Barker
Nathan Cleverly
Martin Murray
Matthew Macklin
Amir Khan
Billie Joe Saunders
Ricky Burns
Kevin Mitchell
Paul Butler
Jamie McDonell

George Groves and David Haye are both very good fighters who could be GREAT fighters with another trainer

[imp]

Adam booth has done a fantastic job with haye and so far great things with groves so that comment can be ignored.

Price can possibly come back but as someone mentioned this is a waaaaay past it tony thompson who beat him up TWICE.

Price might not have it him anymore and his prime might have passed.

You dont need to be in your forties to have past your prime.
Amir khan is a lovely guy with great talent but IMHO he has passed his prime.

I think we should just all get behind the most exciting british fighter at the moment and thats tyson fury.
He has no stamina issues and just needs a prime trainer to make him so much more.

The most exciting British fighter at any point in the whole of history has never been and never will be Tyson Fury. He thinks he Irish so why should any Brit get behind him? Here are a list of some fighters better than Tyson Fury from the UK

Scott Quigg
Carl Froch
David Haye
George Groves
Darren Barker
Nathan Cleverly
Martin Murray
Matthew Macklin
Amir Khan
Billie Joe Saunders
Ricky Burns
Kevin Mitchell
Paul Butler
Jamie McDonell

George Groves and David Haye are both very good fighters who could be GREAT fighters with another trainer

What trainer would you suggest?