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Past Your Best.
When fighter's just get beat, and we say past his best, Eubank, Benn, age to many hard
fights father time catching up with them.!
So many great fight never no when to just walk away,! do they damage there greatness,
in doing so, RJJ for instance.
Name me fighters you think, carried on to long fighting.
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Yep both of them, don't no when to just pack it in, I feel they have lost to manyOriginally Posted by imp
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Probably a lot easier to name the ones who retired too soon...
"Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it."
George Foreman
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Probably a lot easier to name the ones who retired too soon...
YES, by far the majority hang on for to long, very few get away at the right time.
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There are so many.
Johnson
Leonard
Armstrong
Robinson
Mosley
Hearns
Ali
Tyson
Louis
Comacho
Duran
Benitez
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Roy Jones jr has embarrassed himself and when he lost to Danny Green i think it was one of the saddest moments i have seen in boxing.
Smokin' Joe Frazier should've retired after the Thriller In Manila, but he continues on and fights Foreman...again!
Maybe Hagler did the right thing and retired when he did? Maybe he thought he couldn't beat Leonard in a rematch? Think about that for a minute, if Hagler fights Leonard again and loses again his legacy is chopped in half instantly.
Aaron Pryor was crazy to fight again 1985
There are so many, but all fighters have huge ego's and they all think they can still do what they did at 24 or 25 years of age when they are 34 or 35 or pushing 40?
Most fighters are on the decline post 32 years, you do have exceptions, but the peak years are probably 25-30, it's all down hill after that.
We tend to forget that someone like Duran was already a 70+ fight veteran by the time he lost to Leonard in 'No Mas'. He was past his peak the moment the final bell rang in Montreal!
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That is a really good point although it was the first fight that was held in Montreal but nevertheless you can certainly make the case that he did start his decline during that six month period and two fights.
Roy Jones jr has embarrassed himself and when he lost to Danny Green i think it was one of the saddest moments i have seen in boxing.
Smokin' Joe Frazier should've retired after the Thriller In Manila, but he continues on and fights Foreman...again!
Maybe Hagler did the right thing and retired when he did? Maybe he thought he couldn't beat Leonard in a rematch? Think about that for a minute, if Hagler fights Leonard again and loses again his legacy is chopped in half instantly.
Aaron Pryor was crazy to fight again 1985
There are so many, but all fighters have huge ego's and they all think they can still do what they did at 24 or 25 years of age when they are 34 or 35 or pushing 40?
Most fighters are on the decline post 32 years, you do have exceptions, but the peak years are probably 25-30, it's all down hill after that.
We tend to forget that someone like Duran was already a 70+ fight veteran by the time he lost to Leonard in 'No Mas'. He was past his peak the moment the bell rang in Montreal!
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Rocky Marciano, Ill go first. Sonofabitch shoulda fought Floyd Patterson in Summer, maybe June, 1956, then 1 more fight maybe Nino Valdez, as was planned, by maybe November '56 then called it quits 51-0 with 45 KOs.Probably a lot easier to name the ones who retired too soon...
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I don't think he did,! remember that nose injury man that was sick if my nose was hang off,Rocky Marciano, Ill go first. Sonofabitch shoulda fought Floyd Patterson in Summer, maybe June, 1956, then 1 more fight maybe Nino Valdez, as was planned, by maybe November '56 then called it quits 51-0 with 45 KOs.Probably a lot easier to name the ones who retired too soon...
like that I would have never boxed again.
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The line seems so fine and so broad at the same time. Robinson carried Armstrong. That would have never happened earlier.
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Calzaghe V RJJ I feel Joe carried Roy, after he was knocked down in the first round, he got up
and just gave Roy a panning, he did carry him he could have stopped Roy if he wished.
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Khan as well.
I know khan is young but he really might have passed his best at this early stage.
The change of trainers wont help him and i hope he gets through the rest of his career unscathed.
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Apollo Creed .... Such a sad thing that crazy Russian did to him in the ring! Good job his mate trained all on his own in Siberia and avenged his defeat. Pure dedication considering it was against someone twice his size and it was Christmas Day and he left his son in America. Anyway that is how the Cold War ended!
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I think certain fighters go so far past their best that anything they do actually adds to their legacy for instance Duran was not expected to beat Moore or Barkley.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
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