Deonty wilder and other american hw's

[vpasqual123]

The comment George Foreman made about Ruiz Being better has small merit even on paper. Both have faught your "bum of the month" BUT Deonty has beaten Liakovich (yes he was on the down) and Audely Harrison.(yes he has a glass jaw) But I do not recognize a single name on Ruiz's list of opponent. Do not get me wrong, I am happy to see both and both seem decent. But Deonty is bringing more excitement with his perfect Record and all by KO. Look at Tysons list at the 30 fight time and you will see that he too faught bums. This is to be expected. Time will tell but Deonty's record and achievments so far are just a little better. He also has an Olyimpic medal! He must, however, now fight only contenders. If he does and KO's a big name or some big names in the same fashion he has been, we have to then be even more excited. he better not fight the Klitchkos yet. It is a no win situation and In hope his handlers recognize this. Deonty is so young and seems to be a big part of the future. If he wins, then he beat a fading champion(s). If he looses, it would be a big setback just like so many others such as Arreola. It is not a bad move and he should not be critized if he did not fight them. I hope he does not get his ego get in front of regular thinking. I am not saying he would not beat either. I actually think he would but it is not a smart move at this time. Let the Klitchkos retire and maybe Deonty could fight Ruiz at one point. We need a change.

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[walrus]

Deonty definitely needs to fight some contenders in order to get me excited. At this point I don't think much of him. The US could use a good heavyweight, it's been a while.

[vpasqual123]

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Deonty definitely needs to fight some contenders in order to get me excited. At this point I don't think much of him. The US could use a good heavyweight, it's been a while.



WHY DO YOU NOT THINK MUCH OF HIM? AGAIN, COMPARE TO TYSONS REUME AND EVEN FOREMAN AND MANY FIGHTERS?

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[Vendettos]

Deonty wilder and other american hw's

What other American heavyweights?

The only other decent one folded against an average Brit.

[vpasqual123]

deonty wilder and other american hw's

what other american heavyweights?

The only other decent one folded against an average brit.

my point corrected. There are no other decent american he's i only see wilder and ruiz.

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[Silkeyjoe]

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Deonty definitely needs to fight some contenders in order to get me excited. At this point I don't think much of him. The US could use a good heavyweight, it's been a while.



WHY DO YOU NOT THINK MUCH OF HIM? AGAIN, COMPARE TO TYSONS REUME AND EVEN FOREMAN AND MANY FIGHTERS?

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Ur comparison is retarted and shows how clueless you are. Tyson won his 1st world title about 18 months after turning pro and beat Larry Holmes in under 3 years. Wilder has been a pro over 5 years and had fought no one of note and is making very little signs of progression.

[IamInuit]

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Deonty definitely needs to fight some contenders in order to get me excited. At this point I don't think much of him. The US could use a good heavyweight, it's been a while.



WHY DO YOU NOT THINK MUCH OF HIM? AGAIN, COMPARE TO TYSONS REUME AND EVEN FOREMAN AND MANY FIGHTERS?

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I can see the point you are making. Tyson fought a lot worse competition in his first 25 or so but he did it rapidly and then made it count when he got his opportunity and the same can be said about Foreman who fought slugs up until the first Frazier fight. So in that sense the comparison is valid.

He's a dangerous guy with that kind of power behind that reach and height but he's a wild man although in fairness he only goes wild once he buzzes somebody. The potential is most definitely there but unfortunately for him he seems to be still developing while at the same time having high expectations placed on him because of the coverage.

He's now called out the brothers and wants them he says before they retire. Well that should not be all that hard in this market. He should plunk his ass down at ring side for the Povetkin fight and then call Wlad out on the broadcast. I dont think Vitali wants to fight anymore. Fighting Oleg Maskaev does nothing for him. They keep saying they want rounds and keep fighting people who cant provide them.

[Beanflicker]

I think Foreman's point was that Andy Ruiz stepped up and destroyed a fellow young, prime undefeated prospect. While Audley Harrison and Liakovich are much more established names than Joe Hanks, the fact is that Audley is 41 and long been considered a joke, and Liakovich had been on a steady decline for 7 years and hadn't won a serious fight since he beat Brewster in '06.

I think thats one thing boxing is missing: the young prospects don't often end up fighting each other. Too many times they feast on stiffs and journeymen, and then move on to has-beens, and then they get the big money fight. These guys should have to fight each other for the priviledge of fighting a Klitschko.

[Beanflicker]

Personally, I think Deontay kills Andy Ruiz. I don't think that's a compeditive fight.

Deontay's resume may not be the greatest, but he has UNDENIABLE physical tools and IMO he has shown boxing skill to go along with it.

Now how is he going to do when a guy stands up to his power and hits him back? Who knows. But Deontay has the potential to be the guy to carry HW boxing in the post-Klitschko era. He is a monster, soft opposition or not.

[ykdadamaja]

The comment George Foreman made about Ruiz Being better has small merit even on paper. Both have faught your "bum of the month" BUT Deonty has beaten Liakovich (yes he was on the down) and Audely Harrison.(yes he has a glass jaw) But I do not recognize a single name on Ruiz's list of opponent. Do not get me wrong, I am happy to see both and both seem decent. But Deonty is bringing more excitement with his perfect Record and all by KO. Look at Tysons list at the 30 fight time and you will see that he too faught bums. This is to be expected. Time will tell but Deonty's record and achievments so far are just a little better. He also has an Olyimpic medal! He must, however, now fight only contenders. If he does and KO's a big name or some big names in the same fashion he has been, we have to then be even more excited. he better not fight the Klitchkos yet. It is a no win situation and In hope his handlers recognize this. Deonty is so young and seems to be a big part of the future. If he wins, then he beat a fading champion(s). If he looses, it would be a big setback just like so many others such as Arreola. It is not a bad move and he should not be critized if he did not fight them. I hope he does not get his ego get in front of regular thinking. I am not saying he would not beat either. I actually think he would but it is not a smart move at this time. Let the Klitchkos retire and maybe Deonty could fight Ruiz at one point. We need a change.

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I think ol'e boy George has gone daft!!

[ykdadamaja]

People forget that Wilder destroyed an undefeated prospect in the name of Kelvin Price... so he has fought a prospect, he demolished him. No doubt Wilder smashes both Hanks and Ruiz. A good prospect for Wilder would be a Bryant Jennings- but I don't wanna see that fight just yet, because I like them both.

[boyla]

Got to love the viral marketing

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[armin]

People forget that Wilder destroyed an undefeated prospect in the name of Kelvin Price... so he has fought a prospect, he demolished him. No doubt Wilder smashes both Hanks and Ruiz. A good prospect for Wilder would be a Bryant Jennings- but I don't wanna see that fight just yet, because I like them both.

Uhm yeah I've never seen this kelvin price fight but dam he musta been a beast cause he was a prospect at 38...shit if that's the gem in wilders record you're really reaching!!!

[ykdadamaja]

People forget that Wilder destroyed an undefeated prospect in the name of Kelvin Price... so he has fought a prospect, he demolished him. No doubt Wilder smashes both Hanks and Ruiz. A good prospect for Wilder would be a Bryant Jennings- but I don't wanna see that fight just yet, because I like them both.

Uhm yeah I've never seen this kelvin price fight but dam he musta been a beast cause he was a prospect at 38...shit if that's the gem in wilders record you're really reaching!!!

Let's be fair to what's taking place today- age doesn't determine a fighter's ability anymore. Bernard Hopkins- as much of a freak of nature he is- has dispelled that.

Particularly for HW's, a good and athletic guy can start at 21-22 and go well into his early 40's by having about 35-45 fights. Sure, a good portion of them will be bums he fought in about a 2-3 year stretch, but if he shows PROMISE in the gym- which a lot of us discount in our rantings and ramblings on the internet- he can prove to be a good fighter.

So, let's be fair now.