Rocky Marciano sucks for not fighting 3 more times

[brocktonblockbust]

Rocky Marciano cannot be an alltime great unless he had fought and beaten Floyd Patterson, Nino Valdez, and Sonny Liston. If he had fought 3 more times, won all 3, and then retired he would have been 52-0, and then we can consider him an alltime great.
32 is no age to retire, he fought Archie Moore 23 days after his 32nd birthday. He should have taken the winter off, started training in January 1956 and fought Floyd Patterson in March 1956, Nino Valdes quickly afterwards, let's say in July 1956 and then trained for a mega-bout a Gran Finale of his career, with Eddie Machen, Brian London, Sonny Liston or even Zora Folley in October or November 1956.

This was painful.

[erics44]

i almost feel like i lived in america at this time, i look back with such fond memories as though i lived through it

[brocktonblockbust]

here's a gem @erics44 from that time period: 5 mnute video, quick fight!! some cultural stuff too, really shows the time period in America then.....priceless footage and adverts.

[erics44]

here's a gem @erics44 from that time period: 5 mnute video, quick fight!! some cultural stuff too, really shows the time period in America then.....priceless footage and adverts.

im at work so i cant watch it now, i'll watch it when i get home later

I might get some beers in for it too

[brocktonblockbust]

here's a gem @erics44 from that time period: 5 mnute video, quick fight!! some cultural stuff too, really shows the time period in America then.....priceless footage and adverts.

im at work so i cant watch it now, i'll watch it when i get home later

I might get some beers in for it too

its too short to even finish 1 beer , so here's 2 additional ones for you mate you will enjoy BIG TIME!!! from that same classic period you talked about:

[erics44]

i dunno, i can knock them back quite quick

thanks for the vids, i shall enjoy

[Vendettos]

Rocky Marciano cannot be an alltime great unless he had fought and beaten Floyd Patterson, Nino Valdez, and Sonny Liston. If he had fought 3 more times, won all 3, and then retired he would have been 52-0, and then we can consider him an alltime great.
32 is no age to retire, he fought Archie Moore 23 days after his 32nd birthday. He should have taken the winter off, started training in January 1956 and fought Floyd Patterson in March 1956, Nino Valdes quickly afterwards, let's say in July 1956 and then trained for a mega-bout a Gran Finale of his career, with Eddie Machen, Brian London, Sonny Liston or even Zora Folley in October or November 1956.

This was painful.

There are 6 words too many in your thread title Brock.

[brocktonblockbust]

Rocky Marciano cannot be an alltime great unless he had fought and beaten Floyd Patterson, Nino Valdez, and Sonny Liston. If he had fought 3 more times, won all 3, and then retired he would have been 52-0, and then we can consider him an alltime great.
32 is no age to retire, he fought Archie Moore 23 days after his 32nd birthday. He should have taken the winter off, started training in January 1956 and fought Floyd Patterson in March 1956, Nino Valdes quickly afterwards, let's say in July 1956 and then trained for a mega-bout a Gran Finale of his career, with Eddie Machen, Brian London, Sonny Liston or even Zora Folley in October or November 1956.

This was painful.

There are 6 words too many in your thread title Brock.

Good point mate. The title should read "3 More Times" striking out the 6 words "Rocky Marciano sucks for not fighting".

[beenKOed]

So, the only possible answer to this thread is "Oh baloney!", an often used phrase from the 50s. Marciano was not only a great fighter, he was a genius for retiring when he did.

[Dia bando]

Brock you can't be feeling well,!!!!!! besmirching Rocky is it something you have
eaten or drunk, any how I do hope you get better soon Bud.

[Master]

Rocky like Joe Calzaghe retired at the right time. He was too old for Floyd and Johannson. Also forget about Liston who would have brutalised him.

[Beanflicker]

If he beat the shit out of Patterson and Liston, I would have had him #1 of all time for sure.

To whip a fast prime guy like Patterson, and a much bigger, heavier Liston, that would have really been special.

[brocktonblockbust]

Rocky like Joe Calzaghe retired at the right time. He was too old for Floyd and Johannson. Also forget about Liston who would have brutalised him.

not too old for lil' floyd. and if he was olding around the edges, his old punch would still have crystallized lil' floyd's chandelier chin.

jahanssen wasnt in the spotlight in 56 that I know of anyway. hadnt fought outside of stockholm or gothenborg sweden in his life until he went to nyc in 59. that fight couldnt have been made in 56 or even 57 bcuz the guy was virtually unknown outside of sweden.

as for sonny boy, he was a jailbird at the time I believe, so that fight couldnt have been made either.

I think Nino Valdes wouldve been a clear challenge for Rocky and it wouldve been a great fight, with Rocky winning by late stoppage.

I believe Rocky told the truth when he said he felt like he still had "2 or 3 more good fights" left in him. That would take him into early 1957. Like I said he would have to fight those "2 or 3 fights" rather quickly, no way could he fight once every 7 months. He would have had to have fought in early '56, then late '56 right after without getting too out of shape, and his Gran Finale had to be no later than Spring or early Summer '57.

I truly believe in June of 1957 nobody still could have licked Rocky. But if he tried pushing into 1958 I will agree with his crouching style he would have been burnt out.

[johnsebastianmiran]

I definitely feel that Rocky's retirement was due to money problems, his manger's split made these matches seem like a pipe dream. It's amazing how Big Al Weill got away with it but that was then.

[travrosty]

Did joe louis' last two big fights make him an all time great? His loss to Charles and loss to Marciano?

had he retired before those last two big losses to charles, marciano, you wouldnt consider him an all time great? of course louis is an all time great. marciano didnt have anything left to prove.

jim jeffries retired for the first time at 29 years old. his last loss against jack johnson nearly 6 years later didnt make him an all time great, his 21 fights, (yes only 22 fights in his career) made him an all time great, and if you don't think jeffries is an all time great, there is something wrong. Same with Marciano.