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    Default Which generation is better?

    Barker, Macklin, Murray and Lee
    v Benn, Eubanks, Watson and Collins

    Combinations that would make the best fights and who would come out on top?
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    Default Re: Which generation is better?

    Its very easy to look at the Benn v Eubank era through rose tinted spectacles and then dismiss the fighters we have produced in the current era as sub-standard and nowhere near the same level-and that would be correct to do so

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    Watched the 4 of them on sky gloves off and the fact that they have fought abroad and world class fighters like Sergio and GGG goes in their favour as ours did not take on Jones and Toney but they are not as good and should have fought each other by now. Think it will happen 2014.
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    Default Re: Which generation is better?

    All 4 of old beat any of the 4 of new. Barker and Macklin imo got far too hyped. Neither are/were that good. Lee was never hyped that much but I always thought he could have been the best of the 4. His defense is just so poor though. Murray looks the best and not hyped as much as the other 2. Hes the only one I give a chance of beating the o;d timers.

    As for fighting next year i still dont see it happen. Macklin v Lee will likely happen but not sure this year.

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    Default Re: Which generation is better?

    Of that lot, old school.

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    Default Re: Which generation is better?

    Old generation no questions asked. Dude, murray and those guys are not even elite.. They belong on ESPN.

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    Default Re: Which generation is better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Barker, Macklin, Murray and Lee
    v Benn, Eubanks, Watson and Collins

    Combinations that would make the best fights and who would come out on top?
    Not only would the old gen beat the new gen in a Brit on Brit contest but the 4 of them would be at the top of the food chain against anyone today from 160 to 168 regardless of nationality. Actually the more I think about it, Ward is probably the only exception. Outside of Collins/Watson the other admirable thing is that they all fought each other. They all would have been a handful for Jones also. Especially Eubanks imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Barker, Macklin, Murray and Lee
    v Benn, Eubanks, Watson and Collins

    Combinations that would make the best fights and who would come out on top?
    Not only would the old gen beat the new gen in a Brit on Brit contest but the 4 of them would be at the top of the food chain against anyone today from 160 to 168 regardless of nationality. Actually the more I think about it, Ward is probably the only exception. Outside of Collins/Watson the other admirable thing is that they all fought each other. They all would have been a handful for Jones also. Especially Eubanks imo.
    I actually thing Benn would have given more problems to Jones. Roy would have simply out boxed Chris and not taken any risks. Eubanks could be out boxed and was vulnerable to body shots which is why I think Mike McCallum would have stopped Chris.
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    Default Re: Which generation is better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Barker, Macklin, Murray and Lee
    v Benn, Eubanks, Watson and Collins

    Combinations that would make the best fights and who would come out on top?
    Not only would the old gen beat the new gen in a Brit on Brit contest but the 4 of them would be at the top of the food chain against anyone today from 160 to 168 regardless of nationality. Actually the more I think about it, Ward is probably the only exception. Outside of Collins/Watson the other admirable thing is that they all fought each other. They all would have been a handful for Jones also. Especially Eubanks imo.
    I actually thing Benn would have given more problems to Jones. Roy would have simply out boxed Chris and not taken any risks. Eubanks could be out boxed and was vulnerable to body shots which is why I think Mike McCallum would have stopped Chris.
    i dont think anyone would have stopped chris in his pomp
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    Default Re: Which generation is better?

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Barker, Macklin, Murray and Lee
    v Benn, Eubanks, Watson and Collins

    Combinations that would make the best fights and who would come out on top?
    Not only would the old gen beat the new gen in a Brit on Brit contest but the 4 of them would be at the top of the food chain against anyone today from 160 to 168 regardless of nationality. Actually the more I think about it, Ward is probably the only exception. Outside of Collins/Watson the other admirable thing is that they all fought each other. They all would have been a handful for Jones also. Especially Eubanks imo.
    I actually thing Benn would have given more problems to Jones. Roy would have simply out boxed Chris and not taken any risks. Eubanks could be out boxed and was vulnerable to body shots which is why I think Mike McCallum would have stopped Chris.
    i dont think anyone would have stopped chris in his pomp
    Not only did he inow how to ride shots and take the sting out, he had a fucking fantastic chin if he was caught clean and then when he was hurt he had that animal in him that would fight back harder and not just put his gloves up around his face like Groves or Jones.

    It was unfortunate that the Watson thing happened. It made Chris think too much about the consequences and softened him a bit. Rather than go for a KO, he would coast purposefully to go to points amd it would often lead to draws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post

    Not only did he inow how to ride shots and take the sting out, he had a fucking fantastic chin if he was caught clean and then when he was hurt he had that animal in him that would fight back harder and not just put his gloves up around his face like Groves or Jones.

    It was unfortunate that the Watson thing happened. It made Chris think too much about the consequences and softened him a bit. Rather than go for a KO, he would coast purposefully to go to points amd it would often lead to draws.
    I think a lot of knockouts happen because fighters are tired too, eubank didnt ever expend any uneccessary energy and it never got to the point where punches would do the kind of damamge to KO him due to fatigue

    all this meant he was almost unknockoutable by head punches, the only time he showed any kind of weakness was to body shots, but you couldnt exactly call this a weekness

    he went down to watson from a body shot, and collins but the collins one was more due to balance as i remember it, its been a while since i have seen any eubank fights so you could probably correct me but i dont remember any other body shots that put him down.
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