One punch doesn't change shit!

[Julius Rain]

Sure Pac lost to Bradley officially and yes he got put to sleep by ONE FUCKING PERFECT PUNCH by a great counter puncher whom had 4 fights to land that punch.

Pac and Floyd should still happen and everybody knows it aside from anti pac and floyd followers.

[FinitoElDinamita]

That's true. Sustained beatings damage fighters but one punch knockouts dont have the same effect.

Pac is ok physically... if anything, he has wear and tear from all the wars he's been in combined with his age, but the marquez ko didnt affect him...

It might actually be a good thing. He will probably fight with more intelligence now..

[Spicoli]

Honestly he looked a bit gun shy, vs a gimp Bradley and said he was content to carry a guy in Rios who looked like he was just going through the motions late. Physically I say he is aight, mentally..focus wise...eh

Oh, and Marquez found that shot earlier that fight too

[Tam Seddon]

Tell that to Michael Watson

[Julius Rain]

Honestly he looked a bit gun shy, vs a gimp Bradley and said he was content to carry a guy in Rios who looked like he was just going through the motions late. Physically I say he is aight, mentally..focus wise...eh

Oh, and Marquez found that shot earlier that fight too

You've never favored pac in anything so its expected for you to argue otherwise. Gun shy? Pacquiao? I think its better if he carrys dominated fighter instead of risking getting caught with a lucky punch again.

It was two different punch if you actually look at the two knockdowns by jmm I think the first one was a great adjusted loop by jmm that he had lots of success with in the past against Pac but clearly jmm carried more power that night. The k.o. punch was a short counter and pac was coming in instead of backing straight up like in the first knockdown. Get the big difference dumbfuck?

[Beanflicker]

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not Pac is physically/mentally the same guy he was 3 years ago. Absolutely nothing.

It used to amaze me that a lot of boxing fans don't understand the concept that rankings and momentum should determine fights.

But then I remembered that boxing fans have been fed fights that don't make sense for decades by greedy promoters (which is a large reason why boxing has taken a nose dive into the irrelevancy).

When you lose two fights in a row, including one where you get KTFO and faceplant like a corpse, it takes more than a tune-up fight against an undersized, hand-picked patsy to build yourself back up.

As the #1 p4p, Floyd should be made to fight only the highest ranking guys with the most momentum. At Floyd's weight, that includes guys like Timothy Bradley, Maidana, and Danny Garcia if he choses to move up. These are fights that MAKE SENSE.

A Pac fight doesn't make sense until Pac racks up another 1 or 2 big wins against elite competition. Same with Khan, he's been knocked out and has looked lackluster in his last few fights. Fights with Pac and Khan do not make sense.

[erics44]

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not Pac is physically/mentally the same guy he was 3 years ago. Absolutely nothing.

It used to amaze me that a lot of boxing fans don't understand the concept that rankings and momentum should determine fights.

But then I remembered that boxing fans have been fed fights that don't make sense for decades by greedy promoters (which is a large reason why boxing has taken a nose dive into the irrelevancy).

When you lose two fights in a row, including one where you get KTFO and faceplant like a corpse, it takes more than a tune-up fight against an undersized, hand-picked patsy to build yourself back up.

As the #1 p4p, Floyd should be made to fight only the highest ranking guys with the most momentum. At Floyd's weight, that includes guys like Timothy Bradley, Maidana, and Danny Garcia if he choses to move up. These are fights that MAKE SENSE.

A Pac fight doesn't make sense until Pac racks up another 1 or 2 big wins against elite competition. Same with Khan, he's been knocked out and has looked lackluster in his last few fights. Fights with Pac and Khan do not make sense.

in your opinion the fight might not make sense in terms of rankings and who deserves what and whats fair and all of that but in terms of money it may well make a lot more sense than fighting someone like bradley

i dont know that for sure by the way in terms of who he would make most money fighting

[Beanflicker]

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not Pac is physically/mentally the same guy he was 3 years ago. Absolutely nothing.

It used to amaze me that a lot of boxing fans don't understand the concept that rankings and momentum should determine fights.

But then I remembered that boxing fans have been fed fights that don't make sense for decades by greedy promoters (which is a large reason why boxing has taken a nose dive into the irrelevancy).

When you lose two fights in a row, including one where you get KTFO and faceplant like a corpse, it takes more than a tune-up fight against an undersized, hand-picked patsy to build yourself back up.

As the #1 p4p, Floyd should be made to fight only the highest ranking guys with the most momentum. At Floyd's weight, that includes guys like Timothy Bradley, Maidana, and Danny Garcia if he choses to move up. These are fights that MAKE SENSE.

A Pac fight doesn't make sense until Pac racks up another 1 or 2 big wins against elite competition. Same with Khan, he's been knocked out and has looked lackluster in his last few fights. Fights with Pac and Khan do not make sense.

[Julius Rain]

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not Pac is physically/mentally the same guy he was 3 years ago. Absolutely nothing.

It used to amaze me that a lot of boxing fans don't understand the concept that rankings and momentum should determine fights.

But then I remembered that boxing fans have been fed fights that don't make sense for decades by greedy promoters (which is a large reason why boxing has taken a nose dive into the irrelevancy).

When you lose two fights in a row, including one where you get KTFO and faceplant like a corpse, it takes more than a tune-up fight against an undersized, hand-picked patsy to build yourself back up.

As the #1 p4p, Floyd should be made to fight only the highest ranking guys with the most momentum. At Floyd's weight, that includes guys like Timothy Bradley, Maidana, and Danny Garcia if he choses to move up. These are fights that MAKE SENSE.

A Pac fight doesn't make sense until Pac racks up another 1 or 2 big wins against elite competition. Same with Khan, he's been knocked out and has looked lackluster in his last few fights. Fights with Pac and Khan do not make sense.

STFU, you don't know boxing if you think Pac needs to rank up and wipe out the division for Floyd again before he can get at Floyd. Been done that while Floyd was crying about not being appreciated and retiring. This is boxing. The two biggest star are Pac and Floyd and you are missing the point. Pac hasn't lost to anybody he hasn't beaten. JMM was one punch and even JMM don't want anymore of Pac. Floyd don't want this fight for a good reason.

Name a fighter that is as popular and accomplished as Pac? NONE.

[Spicoli]

Honestly he looked a bit gun shy, vs a gimp Bradley and said he was content to carry a guy in Rios who looked like he was just going through the motions late. Physically I say he is aight, mentally..focus wise...eh

Oh, and Marquez found that shot earlier that fight too

You've never favored pac in anything so its expected for you to argue otherwise. Gun shy? Pacquiao? I think its better if he carrys dominated fighter instead of risking getting caught with a lucky punch again.

It was two different punch if you actually look at the two knockdowns by jmm I think the first one was a great adjusted loop by jmm that he had lots of success with in the past against Pac but clearly jmm carried more power that night. The k.o. punch was a short counter and pac was coming in instead of backing straight up like in the first knockdown. Get the big difference dumbfuck?

Dude..although I may not tightly ball up my Pacquiao bedsheets in the morning and spoon them to the point of genital chafing, I do appreciate him as a fighter...you 'lucky punch perfect punch' contradictory asshate. I very much enjoyed him beating up Mosley . Gun shy, preservation, carrying a dominated fighter and Floyding it, call it want ya want. Fact is with Bradley his flame was dull and after being left in a wet motionless heap chewing the canvas like it was lumpy oatmeal vs Marquez...any fighter would have it in the back of his mind next outing. Boxing is very much mostly a mental exercise. Oh and your right, it was two different punches from completely different angles that gave Pac problems and put him on the canvas...thanks for keeping me sharp

[Pavlik]

in all honesty that one punch meant a lot that will be heralded as the most brutal 1 punch knockout of all time. sadly the recipient is my idol Pac a good guy. well thats water under the bridge now and i believe if given the chance Pac will still be a dominant force vs any of the 147 pounders out there that including pbf.
*i also believe he is a tad gun shy now, just a smidge but still ok.

[cambay411]

That's true. Sustained beatings damage fighters but one punch knockouts dont have the same effect.

Pac is ok physically... if anything, he has wear and tear from all the wars he's been in combined with his age, but the marquez ko didnt affect him...

It might actually be a good thing. He will probably fight with more intelligence now..

Got to disagree with this. Getting KO'd is hard to come back from mentally and at Pacs age physicaly. Getting KO'd like that isnt going to make it easier for him to take punches. It helped his chin wear out even faster than it already was.

On top of that its not like it was just a KO punch. They went at it for 6 rounds then he got KO'd which will take it out of him even more.

With all this being said him and Floyd still need to fight.

[Violent Demise]

Mayweather-Pac should happen. But when one of them turns down a career high 40 million, I doubt he seriously wants the fight. No matter how much he claims he does. Actions speak louder than hollow words

[cambay411]

Mayweather-Pac should happen. But when one of them turns down a career high 40 million, I doubt he seriously wants the fight. No matter how much he claims he does. Actions speak louder than hollow words

You hit the nail on the head of the hammer (or how ever that saying goes).

I would almost guarentee Pac and Floyd (Both? who knows) will go down as the only two men ever and will ever turn down 40 million.

We may never know he real reason why. The only truly logical reason I can think of is Floyd wants to let Pac put on some more age and assumes the money will still be there no matter what.

Not saying Floyds afraid but I would almost bet his uncle and maybe even his dad tell him to wait it out. I dont care who Floyd smashed thats beat Pac or gave Pac a much harder fight. imo the bottom line is Pac is the only fighter with the speed, footwork, power and etc to beat Floyd (Except for maybe a prime ODLH, which Floyd also did not fight). And fighters with Pacs style usually fade out quick and when they start to fade they are done. Its a miracle Pac has lasted this long (roids or no roids).

On top of that I think the only thing Floyd cares about is his undefeated record. I think in Floyds mind if he loses his undefeated record he loses his claim to greatest of all time.

[Dia bando]

Sure Pac lost to Bradley officially and yes he got put to sleep by ONE FUCKING PERFECT PUNCH by a great counter puncher whom had 4 fights to land that punch.

Pac and Floyd should still happen and everybody knows it aside from anti pac and floyd followers.

Julius Marquez is Pac's bogie fighter, Ali had Norton theses fighters have a style to make life
difficult for the best !, did Pac losing by that sweet right hand damage him, mentally yes
I would say. But he is still a great fighter, and that was a perfect punch that Ko him, it
did change shit mentally scared, I don't think Floyd want's to fight Pac, as there easy
pickings elsewhere to be found,! I hope they fight.