James DeGay is shit.

[Vendettos]

Seriously, shouldn't he be fighting tougher opponents?

Very slow career.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Degale sucks dude..

[Master]

De Gale will be world champion when he beat Bika.

Froch and Groves will be scared.

I am Iron Man.

[Dark Lord Al]

Yes he is pretty ordinary , slaps a lot also.

[ykdadamaja]

His punches are not crisp enough, just yet... and he has to work on his aggression a bit more. But it was a VAST improvement from when I saw him last. He is making slow, but steady progress.

He will be a world champ... I sincerely hopes he employs a Nazim Richardson or Freddie Roach so they can really fix some of these "issues" with his professional style.

His camp should take my silly advice...

[imp]

Bit harsh guys.

He deserves a world title shot and i agree he needs a change of trainer.

Its starting to get very interesting and now degale is fully fit he has no excuses.

[Silkeyjoe]

Yea I think its harsh too. He was unlucky not to get the win over Groves. If he had hed be further along. Unfortunately defeats set you back in boxing. Bika is a winnable fight for him and once he has a title bigger fights will come. He looked very slick in parts of that fight and in fairness his opponent was tougher then most thought he would be.

In all fairness there is still not a lot between Groves and Degale

[Primo Carnera]

Yea I think its harsh too. He was unlucky not to get the win over Groves. If he had hed be further along. Unfortunately defeats set you back in boxing. Bika is a winnable fight for him and once he has a title bigger fights will come. He looked very slick in parts of that fight and in fairness his opponent was tougher then most thought he would be.

In all fairness there is still not a lot between Groves and Degale

Groves is miles ahead of Degale. When they fought, I actually had Degale sneaking it, but since then Groves has improved dramatically with every fight, while Degale has stood still if not gone backwards. He's talked about bad knees, groin, all sorts of excuses. Until last night , I've never seen Degale fight more than a minute a round. Last night was a bit better, but he got tagged a helluva lot against a guy who although decent and game, was not World level. If they rematched tomorrow , Groves would probably stop Degale in 6-8 rounds.

[Vendettos]

Yea I think its harsh too. He was unlucky not to get the win over Groves. If he had hed be further along. Unfortunately defeats set you back in boxing. Bika is a winnable fight for him and once he has a title bigger fights will come. He looked very slick in parts of that fight and in fairness his opponent was tougher then most thought he would be.

In all fairness there is still not a lot between Groves and Degale

Groves is miles ahead of Degale. When they fought, I actually had Degale sneaking it, but since then Groves has improved dramatically with every fight, while Degale has stood still if not gone backwards. He's talked about bad knees, groin, all sorts of excuses. Until last night , I've never seen Degale fight more than a minute a round. Last night was a bit better, but he got tagged a helluva lot against a guy who although decent and game, was not World level. If they rematched tomorrow , Groves would probably stop Degale in 6-8 rounds.

I had Groves up by 3 I think.

Groves is massively the better fighter now.

DeGale has bare done anything to earn a title shot. I haven't even heard of a couple of his last opponents.

[Dia bando]

Yea I think its harsh too. He was unlucky not to get the win over Groves. If he had hed be further along. Unfortunately defeats set you back in boxing. Bika is a winnable fight for him and once he has a title bigger fights will come. He looked very slick in parts of that fight and in fairness his opponent was tougher then most thought he would be.

In all fairness there is still not a lot between Groves and Degale

Groves is miles ahead of Degale. When they fought, I actually had Degale sneaking it, but since then Groves has improved dramatically with every fight, while Degale has stood still if not gone backwards. He's talked about bad knees, groin, all sorts of excuses. Until last night , I've never seen Degale fight more than a minute a round. Last night was a bit better, but he got tagged a helluva lot against a guy who although decent and game, was not World level. If they rematched tomorrow , Groves would probably stop Degale in 6-8 rounds.

I had Groves up by 3 I think.

Groves is massively the better fighter now.

DeGale has bare done anything to earn a title shot. I haven't even heard of a couple of his last opponents.

George gone up in the World, James is going down the pan.

[ykdadamaja]

Yea I think its harsh too. He was unlucky not to get the win over Groves. If he had hed be further along. Unfortunately defeats set you back in boxing. Bika is a winnable fight for him and once he has a title bigger fights will come. He looked very slick in parts of that fight and in fairness his opponent was tougher then most thought he would be.

In all fairness there is still not a lot between Groves and Degale

Groves is miles ahead of Degale. When they fought, I actually had Degale sneaking it, but since then Groves has improved dramatically with every fight, while Degale has stood still if not gone backwards. He's talked about bad knees, groin, all sorts of excuses. Until last night , I've never seen Degale fight more than a minute a round. Last night was a bit better, but he got tagged a helluva lot against a guy who although decent and game, was not World level. If they rematched tomorrow , Groves would probably stop Degale in 6-8 rounds.

I had Groves up by 3 I think.

Groves is massively the better fighter now.

DeGale has bare done anything to earn a title shot. I haven't even heard of a couple of his last opponents.

Well, who did Groves fight before he fought Froch- "DeGale".... and before that no one in the world knew who Groves was. At least we knew who DeGale was... lololol....

DeGale earns this title shot more than Groves did his against Froch if you ask me.

[Silkeyjoe]

Yea I think its harsh too. He was unlucky not to get the win over Groves. If he had hed be further along. Unfortunately defeats set you back in boxing. Bika is a winnable fight for him and once he has a title bigger fights will come. He looked very slick in parts of that fight and in fairness his opponent was tougher then most thought he would be.

In all fairness there is still not a lot between Groves and Degale

Groves is miles ahead of Degale. When they fought, I actually had Degale sneaking it, but since then Groves has improved dramatically with every fight, while Degale has stood still if not gone backwards. He's talked about bad knees, groin, all sorts of excuses. Until last night , I've never seen Degale fight more than a minute a round. Last night was a bit better, but he got tagged a helluva lot against a guy who although decent and game, was not World level. If they rematched tomorrow , Groves would probably stop Degale in 6-8 rounds.

I had Groves up by 3 I think.

Groves is massively the better fighter now.

DeGale has bare done anything to earn a title shot. I haven't even heard of a couple of his last opponents.

It's not really a stacked division. Who does he have to beat to deserve a title shot? Periban wouldn't fight him and Jack lost.

[Silkeyjoe]

Yea I think its harsh too. He was unlucky not to get the win over Groves. If he had hed be further along. Unfortunately defeats set you back in boxing. Bika is a winnable fight for him and once he has a title bigger fights will come. He looked very slick in parts of that fight and in fairness his opponent was tougher then most thought he would be.

In all fairness there is still not a lot between Groves and Degale

Groves is miles ahead of Degale. When they fought, I actually had Degale sneaking it, but since then Groves has improved dramatically with every fight, while Degale has stood still if not gone backwards. He's talked about bad knees, groin, all sorts of excuses. Until last night , I've never seen Degale fight more than a minute a round. Last night was a bit better, but he got tagged a helluva lot against a guy who although decent and game, was not World level. If they rematched tomorrow , Groves would probably stop Degale in 6-8 rounds.

I agree with most of what you said. Groves has improved a lot, but the main thinking behind that is his performance against Froch. While he looked beating Smith, Sierra, Johnson, Barakat and Alcoba I dont think any of them would cause degale any trouble either.

DeGale has been injured but he has also had more fights since the loss to Groves then Groves has and while he hasnt been fighting great fighters the likes of Wilczewski and Davis are just as good as the guys Groves has been fighting (bar Froch). If they were fighting soon Groves would rightly be favorite but there is not a huge difference in them. I think Id back Degale at 2/1 or bigger which would mean hed have a good chance.

[bzkfn]

Seriously, shouldn't he be fighting tougher opponents?

Very slow career.

Yeah i watched it before the Burns fight and I was less than impressed. Degale still slaps, still gets lazy and loses concentration, still stops and admires his own work rather than going for the finish and he still gets hit way too much. His defence is seriously shit and to me he isn't improving much at all. He needs to change trainer and promoter. As he does with all his fighters Hennessy has him fighting nobodies in complete obscurity. How can a highly rated Olympic Gold medal winner be fighting for buttons on small hall shows? Because Hennessy couldn't market shit to flies. For fucks sake George Groves doesnt even have a promoter and he has fashioned his own opportunities. Degale needs to be tested and fighting some fucking unknown Armenian while Groves is fighting for World titles on PPV is just embarassing.

[Vendettos]

Seriously, shouldn't he be fighting tougher opponents?

Very slow career.

Yeah i watched it before the Burns fight and I was less than impressed. Degale still slaps, still gets lazy and loses concentration, still stops and admires his own work rather than going for the finish and he still gets hit way too much. His defence is seriously shit and to me he isn't improving much at all. He needs to change trainer and promoter. As he does with all his fighters Hennessy has him fighting nobodies in complete obscurity. How can a highly rated Olympic Gold medal winner be fighting for buttons on small hall shows? Because Hennessy couldn't market shit to flies. For fucks sake George Groves doesnt even have a promoter and he has fashioned his own opportunities. Degale needs to be tested and fighting some fucking unknown Armenian while Groves is fighting for World titles on PPV is just embarassing.

100% agree.

He needs to start taking risks against tough fighters who can take him 12 and offer some offense.

Otherwise he will only be remembered for one thing, a loss to Groves.