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    Default Floyd's speed and reflexes have irreversibly deteriorated

    Floyd's lack of speed, elusiveness and legs were not an anomaly against Maidana. Speed isn't something you turn on and turn off just because you may underestimate an opponent.

    Aside from a few adjustments, this is the Mayweather we will see in future fights. He's NOT going to suddenly gain his quickness back. When has that ever happened? Look, it happens to even the best of athletes whose abilities are dictated by speed.

    I'm a fan of Floyd, but it's all downhill from here on, and deep down I believe Floyd believes it too.

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    Default Re: Floyd's speed and reflexes have irreversibly deteriorated

    Thank you for your over dramatic post.

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    Default Re: Floyd's speed and reflexes have irreversibly deteriorated

    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Thank you for your over dramatic post.
    mostly wishful thinking.

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    Default Re: Floyd's speed and reflexes have irreversibly deteriorated

    He's 37. He's slipped some. So has Pacquaio.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    He's 37. He's slipped some. So has Pacquaio.
    Pac has fallen off the map....he'll never be the same after that Marquez induced coma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    He's 37. He's slipped some. So has Pacquaio.
    Pac has fallen off the map....he'll never be the same after that Marquez induced coma.
    Pacquiao had an easier time with Bradley recently then Floyd did with Maidana. Bradley the #2 welterweight at time and Maidana who everyone thought had beat Broner due to him jumping up in weight. Pac looked better then he had in he's last 3 fight minus the power and Floyd just looked not himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    Floyd's lack of speed, elusiveness and legs were not an anomaly against Maidana. Speed isn't something you turn on and turn off just because you may underestimate an opponent.

    Aside from a few adjustments, this is the Mayweather we will see in future fights. He's NOT going to suddenly gain his quickness back. When has that ever happened? Look, it happens to even the best of athletes whose abilities are dictated by speed.

    I'm a fan of Floyd, but it's all downhill from here on, and deep down I believe Floyd believes it too.
    those combos he threw were impressive...as was his defense.

    Floyd must have been going downhill against Oscar too because he faught off the ropes a lot in that fight too.

    The guy can't do anything right.

    If he uses the ring he's a scared safety first pot-shotting coward.....
    If he gets in the trenches he's deteriorated.

    Go back and watch some of his fights when he first moved to WW...you will see the same thing you saw saturday night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    Floyd's lack of speed, elusiveness and legs were not an anomaly against Maidana. Speed isn't something you turn on and turn off just because you may underestimate an opponent.

    Aside from a few adjustments, this is the Mayweather we will see in future fights. He's NOT going to suddenly gain his quickness back. When has that ever happened? Look, it happens to even the best of athletes whose abilities are dictated by speed.

    I'm a fan of Floyd, but it's all downhill from here on, and deep down I believe Floyd believes it too.
    those combos he threw were impressive...as was his defense.

    Floyd must have been going downhill against Oscar too because he faught off the ropes a lot in that fight too.

    The guy can't do anything right.

    If he uses the ring he's a scared safety first pot-shotting coward.....
    If he gets in the trenches he's deteriorated.

    Go back and watch some of his fights when he first moved to WW...you will see the same thing you saw saturday night.
    Voluntarily fighting off the ropes is a good tactic at times but being forced to the ropes while taking big shots to head, arms and body and losing 4 or 5 rounds that way is a stupid way to fight.
    Are you saying Floyd is a stupid fighter?
    Floyd was not fighting off the ropes, he was getting his ass kicked on the ropes.
    The idea of Floyd purposely laying on the the ropes in some kind of "rope a dope" scenario just pisses me off. Floyd doesn't purposely lose rounds, that's not who he is and he'll never fight that way, Floyd fights to win every round.

    The guy can't do anything right.

    You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to pull some "poor Floyd" shit. Floyd does everything right in the ring, and if there is a rematch, Floyd will win again.
    Floyd, just like most of us, underestimated Maidana's stamina, toughness, determination and his trainer, Robert Garcia. Floyd won't make that mistake again.
    That was a close, exciting fight and I want to see a rematch, real bad. I think Maidana deserves another big payday for that performance plus I want to see if Floyd has slowed as much as it looked like.

    A close fight for Floyd is when he doesn't win 10 out of 12 rounds. By those standards, Floyd squeezed by.

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    He looked damn sharp against Canelo. Maybe he has hit the end but I'll need to see a 2nd bad outing because anyone can have an off night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    He looked damn sharp against Canelo. Maybe he has hit the end but I'll need to see a 2nd bad outing because anyone can have an off night.
    Lol no shit eh. This stuff is hilarious. Cant even think of a response. The guy who has never had a bad outing since the first Castillo fight does not make an opponent look silly and he's written off. Drive through boxing.

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    Yes. Its as clear as day with this insight now. Floyd has aged. Woah Nelly. He realized this moons ago and invested accordingly with 6 payday run and thought out match making. All things considered he has adapted well to resetting close and maintaining that upper body management. You can pick a handful of earlier fights where he fought like a purse swinging chump and would not have thought he could show what he did Sat. night in endurance and adjustment. And in case I haven't said it..I cant stand the motherfunker but fair is fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Yes. Its as clear as day with this insight now. Floyd has aged. Woah Nelly. He realized this moons ago and invested accordingly with 6 payday run and thought out match making. All things considered he has adapted well to resetting close and maintaining that upper body management. You can pick a handful of earlier fights where he fought like a purse swinging chump and would not have thought he could show what he did Sat. night in endurance and adjustment. And in case I haven't said it..I cant stand the motherfunker but fair is fair.
    Only Floyd can be trashed for aging. It's funny the pedestal those that don't like him put him on, it's even offensive to others that don't like him!

    Damn you Floyd for doing what every human who has ever lived did, damn you all to hell!!
    Last edited by Ron Swanson; 05-07-2014 at 06:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    He looked damn sharp against Canelo. Maybe he has hit the end but I'll need to see a 2nd bad outing because anyone can have an off night.
    Lol no shit eh. This stuff is hilarious. Cant even think of a response. The guy who has never had a bad outing since the first Castillo fight does not make an opponent look silly and he's written off. Drive through boxing.
    Exactly

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    Default Re: Floyd's speed and reflexes have irreversibly deteriorated

    This isn't anything new. He's 37 years old. Even before the Maidana fight you could see he slowed down considerably, even compared to 5 years ago when he fought JMM.

    That's life. You're in your physical prime in your 20s and early 30s, and then it goes downhill from there.

    Roy Jones was 35 and 15 years into his pro career when he got caught by Tarver and Johnson. When Pernell Whitaker was in his mid 30s he was dropping fights and struggling with guys who had no business being in the ring with him. Floyd's well passed the "fast slickster" expiration date.

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    Default Re: Floyd's speed and reflexes have irreversibly deteriorated

    he just had a bad fight, simple as that. That does happen too. I think it had more to do that he got bullied than his lack of speed. And he didn't display his full movement.
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