Cotto is not a MW Champ

[Beanflicker]

He's not even a MW fighter.

I think the criteria should be crystal clear. To be considered the MW champ, or even a MW fighter, you should have to fight AT LEAST ONCE AT MIDDLEWEIGHT, not some lame catch weight. SRR didn't fight Jake Lamotta at 157 or 159.

Cotto is a great fighter but lets be honest, he saw an old, injury-riddled champ that was at the absolute end of his rope and ripe for the picking. That's Freddie's specialty (as he did with Pac/DLH).

As fans we need to tell these prima-donna sissies (Floyd, Pac, Cotto, ect) that catch weights are for fruits and we'll have none of it.

[Beanflicker]

Oh, and I'd say that I look forward to Cotto getting a wake up call from the true MW champ, GGG, but there is no way in hell Cotto would take a GGG fight. I'm putting that on the record now, there's NO WAY Cotto will fight GGG. NEVER.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Oh, and I'd say that I look forward to Cotto getting a wake up call from the true MW champ, GGG, but there is no way in hell Cotto would take a GGG fight. I'm putting that on the record now, there's NO WAY Cotto will fight GGG. NEVER.

Pacquiao was never Jr. Middleweight champion, Leonard was never Lt Hvy champ, so only champ in 4 divisions, and no, GGG wasn't the lineal middleweight champion so he isn't the Middleweight champion cause well pretty black and white he never fought for the REAL championship that well the likes of Lamotta and Robinson held, GGG is fighting Geale and probably moving up afterwards, Canelo has to get by Lara for a fight with Cotto and Mayweather is probably rematching Maidana, don't get the hullabaloo, people were still writing off Cotto leading up to the fight and he dominates yet now he was picking up the pieces, 4 division champion and the LINEAL MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP OF THE WORLD, deal with it

[Gandalf]

Oh, and I'd say that I look forward to Cotto getting a wake up call from the true MW champ, GGG, but there is no way in hell Cotto would take a GGG fight. I'm putting that on the record now, there's NO WAY Cotto will fight GGG. NEVER.

Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.

[cyclone]

Oh, and I'd say that I look forward to Cotto getting a wake up call from the true MW champ, GGG, but there is no way in hell Cotto would take a GGG fight. I'm putting that on the record now, there's NO WAY Cotto will fight GGG. NEVER.

Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.

C'mon now stumpy...
Pacman made a career out of picking on handicapped fighters.

At least Martinez had a LICENSE..

[Gandalf]

Oh, and I'd say that I look forward to Cotto getting a wake up call from the true MW champ, GGG, but there is no way in hell Cotto would take a GGG fight. I'm putting that on the record now, there's NO WAY Cotto will fight GGG. NEVER.

Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.

C'mon now stumpy...
Pacman made a career out of picking on handicapped fighters.

At least Martinez had a LICENSE..

How he got that license is questionable though. Even before the KD's Martinez was badly off. I haven't seen such a decline since Ali. At least fighters like Toney had the basics to hide and delay the decline. With Martinez it was decline of the legs and thus no decent punches nor combos at any stage. It isn't because Cotto is that good.

Cotto is good though, but not that good. If you are asked to beat a washed up old man you will, but it isn't a best win by any shot.

[bradlee180]

I just watched the fight today.

A fan loses out so much when he already knows who's gonna win.

Anyway, completely 1-sided affair.
Cotto had such poise, so well-composed, calmly sticking to the gameplan which was working. Fought with passion and energy, but cool-headed. Not wild.

Martinez was just kind of floundering around with no answers as to what to do when faced with superior technical skills.
And he's lost his punch resistance.
When a guy's style is dependent on speed and athleticism, but can't really box and hasn't learned the technical aspects, once some of that speed goes, well, it's too late to learn how to box correctly then. Too old to learn now.

There's been far worse beatings where the fight wasn't stopped.
Still, dude was down 3 times in rd 1; that's tremendous unseen damage in his brain took place there. You don't want to play around with that. Good stoppage.Each rd, Martinez was taking more punishment than the rd before. He never recovered from the 1st rd damage.


Martinez was a Good Champion.
On Saturday night, it was hard to believe this was the same guy that cold-konked Paul Williams cold and beat up Pavlik not too long ago.

Mediocre ref.


This was Cotto's shining moment.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Oh, and I'd say that I look forward to Cotto getting a wake up call from the true MW champ, GGG, but there is no way in hell Cotto would take a GGG fight. I'm putting that on the record now, there's NO WAY Cotto will fight GGG. NEVER.

Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.

C'mon now stumpy...
Pacman made a career out of picking on handicapped fighters.

At least Martinez had a LICENSE..

How he got that license is questionable though. Even before the KD's Martinez was badly off. I haven't seen such a decline since Ali. At least fighters like Toney had the basics to hide and delay the decline. With Martinez it was decline of the legs and thus no decent punches nor combos at any stage. It isn't because Cotto is that good.

Cotto is good though, but not that good. If you are asked to beat a washed up old man you will, but it isn't a best win by any shot.

you had no complaints when Hatton took on Tszyu or Castillo or when Calzaghe finally decided to take on Jones, take that shit somewhere else bud

[cyclone]

Oh, and I'd say that I look forward to Cotto getting a wake up call from the true MW champ, GGG, but there is no way in hell Cotto would take a GGG fight. I'm putting that on the record now, there's NO WAY Cotto will fight GGG. NEVER.

Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.

C'mon now stumpy...
Pacman made a career out of picking on handicapped fighters.

At least Martinez had a LICENSE..

How he got that license is questionable though. Even before the KD's Martinez was badly off. I haven't seen such a decline since Ali. At least fighters like Toney had the basics to hide and delay the decline. With Martinez it was decline of the legs and thus no decent punches nor combos at any stage. It isn't because Cotto is that good.

Cotto is good though, but not that good. If you are asked to beat a washed up old man you will, but it isn't a best win by any shot.

You boy Pacman beat on fighters in worse shape than Sergio...then he drained them.

[ruthless rocco]

Oh, and I'd say that I look forward to Cotto getting a wake up call from the true MW champ, GGG, but there is no way in hell Cotto would take a GGG fight. I'm putting that on the record now, there's NO WAY Cotto will fight GGG. NEVER.

Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.

How does this reflect poorly on Cotto?

Did Cotto force "handicapped" Martinez to fight him? I'm pretty sure Martinez chose to be there. I saw the interviews and shows leading up to the fight where Martinez says he's 100% ready and healthy. I saw his trainers and coaches all say he's ready for the fight and that he would win the fight easy. That he was much better than Cotto and Roach.

So how is it Cotto's fault if Martinez misrepresented himself? If Martinez and his trainers and his coaches and his promoter all lied and mislead people into believing he was healthy when he was in fact "handicapped". Why would you say "fair play to Martinez" but "shame on Cotto"?!?!

How stupid are some of you?

Could someone explain how Cotto is to blame for Martinez poor decision making?

[generalbulldog]

Oh, and I'd say that I look forward to Cotto getting a wake up call from the true MW champ, GGG, but there is no way in hell Cotto would take a GGG fight. I'm putting that on the record now, there's NO WAY Cotto will fight GGG. NEVER.

Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.

1 thing I have always respected about you was that you are consistent in your arguments, whether it be boxing or politics. Much respect.

The hypocrites here are hailing this as some massive achievement by Cotto by fighting at a catchweight for a title, but hailed other fighters as cherry picking cowards for doing the same thing. No bullshit hypocrisy from you. Much respect.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Oh, and I'd say that I look forward to Cotto getting a wake up call from the true MW champ, GGG, but there is no way in hell Cotto would take a GGG fight. I'm putting that on the record now, there's NO WAY Cotto will fight GGG. NEVER.

Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.

1 thing I have always respected about you was that you are consistent in your arguments, whether it be boxing or politics. Much respect.

The hypocrites here are hailing this as some massive achievement by Cotto by fighting at a catchweight for a title, but hailed other fighters as cherry picking cowards for doing the same thing. No bullshit hypocrisy from you. Much respect.

he didn't take Martinez on at a weight he hadn't fought in in ten years where he was drained so bad he needed to be re hydrated with an IV then go on to hail it as one of his greatest wins =/ apples and oranges buddy

[cyclone]

Oh, and I'd say that I look forward to Cotto getting a wake up call from the true MW champ, GGG, but there is no way in hell Cotto would take a GGG fight. I'm putting that on the record now, there's NO WAY Cotto will fight GGG. NEVER.

Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.

1 thing I have always respected about you was that you are consistent in your arguments, whether it be boxing or politics. Much respect.

The hypocrites here are hailing this as some massive achievement by Cotto by fighting at a catchweight for a title, but hailed other fighters as cherry picking cowards for doing the same thing. No bullshit hypocrisy from you. Much respect.

he didn't take Martinez on at a weight he hadn't fought in in ten years where he was drained so bad he needed to be re hydrated with an IV then go on to hail it as one of his greatest wins =/ apples and oranges buddy

keep schooling them..

[El Kabong]

Regardless this sets up Cotto-Mayweather II pretty nicely

[mikeeod]

The bottom line is that Cotto beat the legit, lineal MW champ so that makes him champ. That doesn't mean that I feel that he is the best in the division, but he is the legitimate champ until someone beats him or he officially says he is moving back down. I would bet against him vs. many in the top 5 such as Quillin and GGG, but I would have bet on Sergio last night and lost money so that doesn't mean much obviously. Last night was a historical night and Cotto should be congratulated for stepping up and accomplishing what he did. We also should keep things in perspective and realize the reality and limitations of the Sergio he fought last night.