Floyd's resume.

[VG_Addict]

How good would you say it is? I think it's pretty good. Even without fighting everyone, he still has wins over:

Canelo
Hatton
Marquez
Guerrero
Judah
Hernandez
Corrales
Manfredy
Cotto
Castillo

[Beanflicker]

It's a great resume. People are always going to nitpick, but at the end of the day Floyd has been a world champion since 1998 and has fought nothing but other champions and top 10 contenders since. And not only has he never lost, the fights there were competitive over the last 16 years you can count on one hand.

[VG_Addict]

I would favor Floyd over Quillin at MW.

[imp]

Not that great.
Bit overrated if you ask me.

[mikeeod]

Solid resume. Not as great as those trying to claim he is the GOAT, but definitely respectable. Not as weak as Roy Jones, who is another guy people try to say is the GOAT. I would've liked to have seen Floyd fight Kostya, Stevie Johnston, Paul Williams, Margarito, and Mosely earlier (Floyd tried but Shane turned it down) but u can't fight everyone and some of those guys were the reason the fight didn't happen. The one missed fight I blame him for is the Manny fight, but to be fair Manny had something to do with that as well. Overall Dloyd has beaten some decent competition and is an ATG.

[Beanflicker]

Not as weak as Roy Jones, who is another guy people try to say is the GOAT.

I've been following boxing and posting at boxing forums for 11 years and I've never heard or seen anybody ever claim Roy Jones was the greatest of all time.

[mikeeod]

Max kellerman, during his last radio show prior to going to espn, said Roy was the goat. I used to chat on the espn forum n guys there would frequently say the same. So, maybe you've never heard that, but many have said it. The point of bringing Roy into the discussion, is that he faced weak competition.

[Silkeyjoe]

Max kellerman, during his last radio show prior to going to espn, said Roy was the goat. I used to chat on the espn forum n guys there would frequently say the same. So, maybe you've never heard that, but many have said it. The point of bringing Roy into the discussion, is that he faced weak competition.

James Toney, 44-0, was ranked number 2 P4P at the time Jones fought him. Jones was ranked number 3. Toney entered as a slight fav.

This single win is far more impressive then any Floyd has.

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Max kellerman, during his last radio show prior to going to espn, said Roy was the goat. I used to chat on the espn forum n guys there would frequently say the same. So, maybe you've never heard that, but many have said it. The point of bringing Roy into the discussion, is that he faced weak competition.

James Toney, 44-0, was ranked number 2 P4P at the time Jones fought him. Jones was ranked number 3. Toney entered as a slight fav.

This single win is far more impressive then any Floyd has.

There wasn't a James Toney in floyds division just like there wasn't a diego corrales etc in Roys division.

I love Roy.
But for longevity floyd has the better style..

[Beanflicker]

Max kellerman, during his last radio show prior to going to espn, said Roy was the goat. I used to chat on the espn forum n guys there would frequently say the same. So, maybe you've never heard that, but many have said it. The point of bringing Roy into the discussion, is that he faced weak competition.

Where can I find a clip of this radio show? Last thing I remember was Max Kellerman getting shit for accusing Roy of only having a great career because he faced weak opposition. Strange that he would change his tune and now call Roy the greatest ever.

[Beanflicker]

Roy's competition wasn't as good as Floyd's but it was a LOT better than people give him credit for.

[ruthless rocco]

How good would you say it is? I think it's pretty good. Even without fighting everyone, he still has wins over:

Canelo
Hatton
Marquez
Guerrero
Judah
Hernandez
Corrales
Manfredy
Cotto
Castillo
Gatti
ODL
Mosely

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[BillyWaltersJr]

How good would you say it is? I think it's pretty good. Even without fighting everyone, he still has wins over:

Canelo
Hatton
Marquez
Guerrero
Judah
Hernandez
Corrales
Manfredy
Cotto
Castillo

Judah had 2 losses in his last 6 when Floyd fought him, including his last fight, a decision loss to Baldomir

Hatton was extremely overrated; he beat Tszyu, but it would have been different in America, I don't think he would have been able to fight the same way, but that was about it. I mean he beat an old Castillo, but not an impressive win for Floyd

Marquez was very undersized, came up 2 weight classes, and Floyd didn't even make weight. Garbage

Genaro Hernandez was a very impressive win. He doesn't get enough credit for that one.

Corrales was also a very big notch in his belt.

Cotto was a good win, but again, Floyd only fought him after multiple losses and 2 knockouts. He should have fought him before Margarito. can't use the money excuse with that one. Cotto has always been a draw.

Floyd's ultimate knock has been he ducked guys. Didn't fight Cotto or Mosley in their prime, never fought Tszyu, Paul Williams or Margarito. Didn't fight Pacquiao.

I think he could have won all those fights, but we'll never know.

[Spicoli]

cc # 2 to the new guy Good break down. Except the Hatton not impressive win part. Floyds biggest fault there was picking up his ball and walking away for 2 years after ko. He lost momentum and a massive chance to sort out fellow players, cement legacy. I do think he came back on the cheap and bit of a "p4p" only grab with Marquez.

[Beanflicker]

Judah had 2 losses in his last 6 when Floyd fought him, including his last fight, a decision loss to Baldomir

Hatton was extremely overrated; he beat Tszyu, but it would have been different in America, I don't think he would have been able to fight the same way, but that was about it. I mean he beat an old Castillo, but not an impressive win for Floyd

Marquez was very undersized, came up 2 weight classes, and Floyd didn't even make weight. Garbage

Genaro Hernandez was a very impressive win. He doesn't get enough credit for that one.

Corrales was also a very big notch in his belt.

Cotto was a good win, but again, Floyd only fought him after multiple losses and 2 knockouts. He should have fought him before Margarito. can't use the money excuse with that one. Cotto has always been a draw.

Floyd's ultimate knock has been he ducked guys. Didn't fight Cotto or Mosley in their prime, never fought Tszyu, Paul Williams or Margarito. Didn't fight Pacquiao.

I think he could have won all those fights, but we'll never know.

Here's the thing, and I agree with a lot of your points don't get me wrong, but the problem is people look at fights that never happened and automatically say "Well Floyd obviously ducked them". That simply isn't true. There's a lot of revisionist history that goes on.

Cotto turned down a Mayweather fight when both guys were at 140.

Floyd called out Mosley CONSISTENTLY since 1999. It was Mosley who chose to move up in weight to fight DLH, and then he famously ducked Floyd once Floyd moved up. This has been documented. Another fact is that when Floyd fought Mosley, he was ranked higher than he had been since 2001 before Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright beat his ass twice each. He was never the man again until he whipped Margarito's (the #1 WW) ass, then he was on top again and Floyd fought him.

Most of these guys who people claim Floyd ducked or was afraid of, Floyd publicly called out.