Setting up the right hook?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Are there any (right handed orthodox) fighters that you can think of, who were exceptionally good at setting up/ hiding the right hook?

[jahmez]

Hopkins

[El Kabong]

George Foreman

[greynotsoold]

Are there any (right handed orthodox) fighters that you can think of, who were exceptionally good at setting up/ hiding the right hook?

What do you mean by that? marciano had a way of making his right hand over the top look like a right hand to the body. Archie Moore hid his right hand behind his left shoulder.
Also, what are you calling a right hook?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Are there any (right handed orthodox) fighters that you can think of, who were exceptionally good at setting up/ hiding the right hook?

What do you mean by that? marciano had a way of making his right hand over the top look like a right hand to the body. Archie Moore hid his right hand behind his left shoulder.
Also, what are you calling a right hook?

Short story long; I find it awkward to hit the heavy bag with a right hook and it occurred to me that it is a relatively crude punch, seemingly very eat to telegraph, in relation to the rest of the basic arsenal. I was left trying to think of fighters that were renowned for their right hook, or who had shown and aptitude to use it specifically.

The only one I could think of was Floyd against Cotto, where he used it with tactical intent, to great effect.

I think Roy Jones used to exploit every ounce of his athleticism to land audacious looking right hands but I'm not immediately aware of any tactical finesse from him.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is, I'm struggling to find relevance for the punch (a completely horizontal looping shot). Someone said Hopkins, so I'll check him out and also Grey, thank you for recommending Moore and The Rock.

[J_Undisputed]

Are there any (right handed orthodox) fighters that you can think of, who were exceptionally good at setting up/ hiding the right hook?

What do you mean by that? marciano had a way of making his right hand over the top look like a right hand to the body. Archie Moore hid his right hand behind his left shoulder.
Also, what are you calling a right hook?

Short story long; I find it awkward to hit the heavy bag with a right hook and it occurred to me that it is a relatively crude punch, seemingly very eat to telegraph, in relation to the rest of the basic arsenal. I was left trying to think of fighters that were renowned for their right hook, or who had shown and aptitude to use it specifically.

The only one I could think of was Floyd against Cotto, where he used it with tactical intent, to great effect.

I think Roy Jones used to exploit every ounce of his athleticism to land audacious looking right hands but I'm not immediately aware of any tactical finesse from him.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is, I'm struggling to find relevance for the punch (a completely horizontal looping shot). Someone said Hopkins, so I'll check him out and also Grey, thank you for recommending Moore and The Rock.

JB,
I think the reason you're finding it awkward, is because working on it with a heavy bag doesnt play as much to the set up (in terms of positioning and footwork). That's not entirely a bad thing. If you have your feet set right, the right hook is going to feel awkward/slow on a stationary target because it takes the punch forever to get there and you can wind up over extending and maintaining your balance a lot of times instinctively widens your stance and takes away your mobility. Angles, footwork and positioning are key to use that hook effectively.

A lot of the fighters that were really proficient at using a right hook either:

A.) squared up a lot if only briefly. Shortening the distance of travel and bringing the right foot around allowed more leverage from turning at the waist... it also lessens the risk of over extension. But also leaves you presenting a bigger target. This is why a lot of guys use it on the inside now or when running down a guy on rubber legs.

b.) Had great ring generalship and used to walk their opponents into it. A guy like jones that had exceptional balance and very quick feet could throw it from the outside, while squaring up momentarily or finishing in a southpaw stance. Most other guys used footwork cutting off a guys a escape as he was circling away from the right hand and reverse him into it... or used a good jab to turn their opponent along the ropes (as the opponent pivots of that lead foot) into right hand to the body or over the ear that came out of their blind spot.

When you're working the bag, try this. Use your jabs straights to get the bag swinging. Alternate working between bag between your 10 and 2. When the bag is swinging from your 10 to 2. As it passes your 12 use your jab and come around with the hook. Turn into the hook at the waist and pivot off your back foot. Its should feel less awkward and allow you to keep your feet in position and either jab out or follow up with the left hook. Try not to loop it wide. From overhead it should more resemble a question mark motion than a backwards "C". Corkscrew it of course and turn your hand over...

Just my opinion of course. Disclaimer: Not mean to be official instruction ..The author is this post will not be held responsible for any injuries sustained while attempting the above... etc etc etc blah blah blah...

[ykdadamaja]

Are there any (right handed orthodox) fighters that you can think of, who were exceptionally good at setting up/ hiding the right hook?

Hook to the body or head?

There really is no such punch as a right hook. A right hook really isn't a real punch. A right hook is either called a looping right to the head (which usually misses or ineffective) or a wild swing to the body- which anyone can do.

There is no such intrigue in a right hook.

[ross]

Are there any (right handed orthodox) fighters that you can think of, who were exceptionally good at setting up/ hiding the right hook?

Hook to the body or head?

There really is no such punch as a right hook. A right hook really isn't a real punch. A right hook is either called a looping right to the head (which usually misses or ineffective) or a wild swing to the body- which anyone can do.

There is no such intrigue in a right hook.

There is such a thing as a right hook! You are trying to call an overhand right a right hook by the looks of things.

[ross]

Are there any (right handed orthodox) fighters that you can think of, who were exceptionally good at setting up/ hiding the right hook?

Hook to the body or head?

There really is no such punch as a right hook. A right hook really isn't a real punch. A right hook is either called a looping right to the head (which usually misses or ineffective) or a wild swing to the body- which anyone can do.

There is no such intrigue in a right hook.

You are trying to call an over hand right a right hook by the looks of things.

[Master]

Eric Morales had a sneaky right hook that changed midway and ended up a right uppercut that i have seen damaging opponents.

[El Kabong]

....but you were saying yk?

[El Kabong]

And although the video features the LEFT hook you'll see Foreman's right hook in the follow ups

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Are there any (right handed orthodox) fighters that you can think of, who were exceptionally good at setting up/ hiding the right hook?

Hook to the body or head?

There really is no such punch as a right hook. A right hook really isn't a real punch. A right hook is either called a looping right to the head (which usually misses or ineffective) or a wild swing to the body- which anyone can do.

There is no such intrigue in a right hook.

Bro, the way you appear to look at boxing comes across as naive/ ignorant/ idiotic.

No such thing as a right hook

[ykdadamaja]

Are there any (right handed orthodox) fighters that you can think of, who were exceptionally good at setting up/ hiding the right hook?

Hook to the body or head?

There really is no such punch as a right hook. A right hook really isn't a real punch. A right hook is either called a looping right to the head (which usually misses or ineffective) or a wild swing to the body- which anyone can do.

There is no such intrigue in a right hook.

Bro, the way you appear to look at boxing comes across as naive/ ignorant/ idiotic.

No such thing as a right hook

The Right Hook for orthodox fighters really is just the right hand. There is no science to it. May as well say right hand to the body or head.

A straight right is distinguished because we call it a straight right. I know you can have a "right hook", but for orthodox fighters it really and truly is the most mundane punch that really anyone can throw.

It's the very first punch one is inclined to throw for orthodox fighters. Why have a special discussions for it?

[ross]

Are there any (right handed orthodox) fighters that you can think of, who were exceptionally good at setting up/ hiding the right hook?

Hook to the body or head?

There really is no such punch as a right hook. A right hook really isn't a real punch. A right hook is either called a looping right to the head (which usually misses or ineffective) or a wild swing to the body- which anyone can do.

There is no such intrigue in a right hook.

Bro, the way you appear to look at boxing comes across as naive/ ignorant/ idiotic.

No such thing as a right hook

The Right Hook for orthodox fighters really is just the right hand. There is no science to it. May as well say right hand to the body or head.

A straight right is distinguished because we call it a straight right. I know you can have a "right hook", but for orthodox fighters it really and truly is the most mundane punch that really anyone can throw.

It's the very first punch one is inclined to throw for orthodox fighters. Why have a special discussions for it?

A normal right hand is a straight right. A right hand that is arched over ala Mayorga is an over hand or chopping right. A short hook with the right like Marcianos Suzie Q is a right hook.

What you are saying is like saying there is no difference between a straight left jab and a left hook!

Don't be silly!