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    Default Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    I was wrong about the fight, but ALSO: You have to ask the question. Here is a guy in his prime 20 years younger than BHOP, so why could he not finish him off? Tried as hard as he could and could not get him out of there or stop him.

    In comparison, Marciano stopped 38 year old Walcott, Holmes stopped 38 year old Ali, Tyson stopped 38 year old Holmes, etc. etc. seems 38 years old is the Death Sentence even for a few ATGs like Holmes, Louis, Ali, etc... AND YET THIS KOVALEV could not stop a 50 year old.

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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I was wrong about the fight, but ALSO: You have to ask the question. Here is a guy in his prime 20 years younger than BHOP, so why could he not finish him off? Tried as hard as he could and could not get him out of there or stop him.

    In comparison, Marciano stopped 38 year old Walcott, Holmes stopped 38 year old Ali, Tyson stopped 38 year old Holmes, etc. etc. seems 38 years old is the Death Sentence even for a few ATGs like Holmes, Louis, Ali, etc... AND YET THIS KOVALEV could not stop a 50 year old.
    Because like GGG, Kovalev is another over hyped white fighter.

    Kovalev would get beaten by Stevenson. The fact that Hopkins picked Kovalev when he could have fought Stevenson says a lot.

    These russian "I come forward. I knock you out" type fighters will always have their hands full against top class slick black fighters

    Makes you think what the 31 year Hopkins would have done to Kovalev.

    Hopkins WOULD NEVER allow a white fighter to destroy him.

    Sure, Hopkins lost but Hopkins comes out of the fight with more cred in my book, his rep hasn't been tarnished at all. As for Kovalev, he's not the monster he was billed to be.

    Same with GGG....let GGG fight Ward, Canelo, Cotto.....in fact I'll go lower than that. let him fight Quillin, Martinez....destroy one of that lot...then I'll take you seriously, especially if he destroys fighters from the 1st list.

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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I was wrong about the fight, but ALSO: You have to ask the question. Here is a guy in his prime 20 years younger than BHOP, so why could he not finish him off? Tried as hard as he could and could not get him out of there or stop him.

    In comparison, Marciano stopped 38 year old Walcott, Holmes stopped 38 year old Ali, Tyson stopped 38 year old Holmes, etc. etc. seems 38 years old is the Death Sentence even for a few ATGs like Holmes, Louis, Ali, etc... AND YET THIS KOVALEV could not stop a 50 year old.
    Because like GGG, Kovalev is another over hyped white fighter.

    Kovalev would get beaten by Stevenson. The fact that Hopkins picked Kovalev when he could have fought Stevenson says a lot.

    These russian "I come forward. I knock you out" type fighters will always have their hands full against top class slick black fighters

    Makes you think what the 31 year Hopkins would have done to Kovalev.

    Hopkins WOULD NEVER allow a white fighter to destroy him.

    Sure, Hopkins lost but Hopkins comes out of the fight with more cred in my book, his rep hasn't been tarnished at all. As for Kovalev, he's not the monster he was billed to be.

    Same with GGG....let GGG fight Ward, Canelo, Cotto.....in fact I'll go lower than that. let him fight Quillin, Martinez....destroy one of that lot...then I'll take you seriously, especially if he destroys fighters from the 1st list.
    hell yeah, Ill go even lower than THAT---let him fight BBB. I will kick his communist ass back to Karagandy, Kossock-scam.

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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    Because the old boy didn't fight to win he fought to survive. If he wasn't a geriatric legend he would be getting absolutely slaughtered for that non-effort. His punch output was pathetic.

    If you take away the romanticism, and just judge Hopkins on his current standing as a top three rated lightheavy, then he wouldn't be getting any credit.

    If Kovalev had ever been past eight rounds before the fossil wouldn't have heard the final bell.
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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    I think yall forgetting who he fought tonight. Bhop is no pushover. No being able to KO an all time great hofer who has never been koed means what?

    I think KOv is the real deal. Cant say same for GGG yet until he fights a real slick boxer.

    ONe thing I can say...atleast they are trying...like bhop said....to fight the best out. unlike the supposed "pfp#1" fagweather

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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    Two schools of thought here:

    The cynical, "Kovalev couldn't put away the old man so he must be shit" way of thinking....
    and the, "Let's give Hopkins credit for showing up in incredible shape as he always does, and withstanding some heavy blows from Kovalev" attitude.

    Meh..... I'll choose the latter.

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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    Last edited by Silkeyjoe; 11-10-2014 at 01:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Because Hopkins fought like a black American fighter. Like a bitch. Throwing 12 punches a round. Running away. What a coward. If he was a white man Id shun him but black americans are proud of cowards. Just look at Ali. Too scared to join the army.
    Sir, this post is wrong on several levels!
    You should delete it or ask a Mod to delete it. It highlights your lack of knowledge about boxing, US History, and Americans of African descent.

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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I was wrong about the fight, but ALSO: You have to ask the question. Here is a guy in his prime 20 years younger than BHOP, so why could he not finish him off? Tried as hard as he could and could not get him out of there or stop him.

    In comparison, Marciano stopped 38 year old Walcott, Holmes stopped 38 year old Ali, Tyson stopped 38 year old Holmes, etc. etc. seems 38 years old is the Death Sentence even for a few ATGs like Holmes, Louis, Ali, etc... AND YET THIS KOVALEV could not stop a 50 year old.
    Because like GGG, Kovalev is another over hyped white fighter.

    Kovalev would get beaten by Stevenson. The fact that Hopkins picked Kovalev when he could have fought Stevenson says a lot.

    These russian "I come forward. I knock you out" type fighters will always have their hands full against top class slick black fighters

    Makes you think what the 31 year Hopkins would have done to Kovalev.

    Hopkins WOULD NEVER allow a white fighter to destroy him.

    Sure, Hopkins lost but Hopkins comes out of the fight with more cred in my book, his rep hasn't been tarnished at all. As for Kovalev, he's not the monster he was billed to be.

    Same with GGG....let GGG fight Ward, Canelo, Cotto.....in fact I'll go lower than that. let him fight Quillin, Martinez....destroy one of that lot...then I'll take you seriously, especially if he destroys fighters from the 1st list.
    Your full of shit. Why mention colour?

    Had it been a black fighter like Stevenson, Cloud, Tarver, Pascal etc Hopkins would probably have won.

    Just like Calzaghe, Kovalev didnt let Hopkins do what he needed.

    Stevenson was lucky to win his last fight.

    How would the Calzaghe that beat Hopkins have done against Kovalev? Would have been very interesting. Kovalev is dangerous when hes coming forward but if someones brave enough and has the work rate they could keep him quiet.

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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I was wrong about the fight, but ALSO: You have to ask the question. Here is a guy in his prime 20 years younger than BHOP, so why could he not finish him off? Tried as hard as he could and could not get him out of there or stop him.

    In comparison, Marciano stopped 38 year old Walcott, Holmes stopped 38 year old Ali, Tyson stopped 38 year old Holmes, etc. etc. seems 38 years old is the Death Sentence even for a few ATGs like Holmes, Louis, Ali, etc... AND YET THIS KOVALEV could not stop a 50 year old.
    Because like GGG, Kovalev is another over hyped white fighter.

    Kovalev would get beaten by Stevenson. The fact that Hopkins picked Kovalev when he could have fought Stevenson says a lot.

    These russian "I come forward. I knock you out" type fighters will always have their hands full against top class slick black fighters

    Makes you think what the 31 year Hopkins would have done to Kovalev.

    Hopkins WOULD NEVER allow a white fighter to destroy him.

    Sure, Hopkins lost but Hopkins comes out of the fight with more cred in my book, his rep hasn't been tarnished at all. As for Kovalev, he's not the monster he was billed to be.

    Same with GGG....let GGG fight Ward, Canelo, Cotto.....in fact I'll go lower than that. let him fight Quillin, Martinez....destroy one of that lot...then I'll take you seriously, especially if he destroys fighters from the 1st list.
    Its always so good to see my open minded buddy Denilson lurking. Notice he's the first person to bring uprace

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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I was wrong about the fight, but ALSO: You have to ask the question. Here is a guy in his prime 20 years younger than BHOP, so why could he not finish him off? Tried as hard as he could and could not get him out of there or stop him.

    In comparison, Marciano stopped 38 year old Walcott, Holmes stopped 38 year old Ali, Tyson stopped 38 year old Holmes, etc. etc. seems 38 years old is the Death Sentence even for a few ATGs like Holmes, Louis, Ali, etc... AND YET THIS KOVALEV could not stop a 50 year old.
    Because like GGG, Kovalev is another over hyped white fighter.


    Hopkins WOULD NEVER allow a white fighter to destroy him.

    Sure, Hopkins lost but Hopkins comes out of the fight with more cred in my book, his rep hasn't been tarnished at all. As for Kovalev, he's not the monster he was billed to be.

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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    Maybe he was just so relieved to have proved you wrong and made it out of the first, that he couldn't get settled after that brock! I bet Kovalev doesn't actually have any power, even I could knock out some 50 year olds.

    Seriously, the guy was at no point in any danger of losing a round, he was hurting Hopkins with very natural fluid punching, controlled the ring very well, was moving Hopkins around just touching him. Has a good jab, had no problem going 12, and it's why couldn't he stop the guy who nobody had ever come nearly as close to stopping. It was an easy fight for Kovalev!

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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    @denilson200 @Silkeyjoe

    I dont care if its done out of ignorance or retaliation, there's no place for that kind of shite here. I suspect one of you will have an easier time computing that.

    If I see it again you'll be gone, and you'll stay gone.

    I think maybe obligation is coming into play when you're giving someone shit for not knocking out Bernard Hopkins.
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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I was wrong about the fight, but ALSO: You have to ask the question. Here is a guy in his prime 20 years younger than BHOP, so why could he not finish him off? Tried as hard as he could and could not get him out of there or stop him.

    In comparison, Marciano stopped 38 year old Walcott, Holmes stopped 38 year old Ali, Tyson stopped 38 year old Holmes, etc. etc. seems 38 years old is the Death Sentence even for a few ATGs like Holmes, Louis, Ali, etc... AND YET THIS KOVALEV could not stop a 50 year old.
    Because like GGG, Kovalev is another over hyped white fighter.

    Kovalev would get beaten by Stevenson. The fact that Hopkins picked Kovalev when he could have fought Stevenson says a lot.

    These russian "I come forward. I knock you out" type fighters will always have their hands full against top class slick black fighters

    Makes you think what the 31 year Hopkins would have done to Kovalev.

    Hopkins WOULD NEVER allow a white fighter to destroy him.

    Sure, Hopkins lost but Hopkins comes out of the fight with more cred in my book, his rep hasn't been tarnished at all. As for Kovalev, he's not the monster he was billed to be.

    Same with GGG....let GGG fight Ward, Canelo, Cotto.....in fact I'll go lower than that. let him fight Quillin, Martinez....destroy one of that lot...then I'll take you seriously, especially if he destroys fighters from the 1st list.
    You're a fucking idiot.

    I really hope you catch a skin pigment disease.

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    Default Re: Why couldn't a PRIME Kovalev knock out a 50 year old man?

    i watched the fight, or most of it and hopkins was in survival mode from early on

    i reckon hopkins could survive 12 rounds against just about anyone - in survival mode

    had he been a bit more ambitious i reckon kolarev would have KOed him, another 10 seconds on the end of the fight and he probably would

    it was an impressive performance if you ask me, hopkins wasnt ever in the fight at any point at all, you probably couldnt have even give hopkins a minute of any round
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