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    Default Canelo's gameplan against Floyd.

    What do you think would have happened if Canelo had chosen to brawl against Floyd?

    Personally, I don't think the result would have been any different. As we saw later in the Lara fight, Canelo is terrible at cutting off the ring, and is flat-footed.

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    Default Re: Canelo's gameplan against Floyd.

    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    What do you think would have happened if Canelo had chosen to brawl against Floyd?

    Personally, I don't think the result would have been any different. As we saw later in the Lara fight, Canelo is terrible at cutting off the ring, and is flat-footed.
    I don't get why people keep saying "had chosen to", in reality it was Floyd who didn't ALLOW HIM TO, his defense was too tight and Canelo didn't know how to deal, so he just got beat up, it wasn't that he abandoned his gameplan it was that he wasn't good enough to execute it, plain and simple

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    Default Re: Canelo's gameplan against Floyd.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    What do you think would have happened if Canelo had chosen to brawl against Floyd?

    Personally, I don't think the result would have been any different. As we saw later in the Lara fight, Canelo is terrible at cutting off the ring, and is flat-footed.
    I don't get why people keep saying "had chosen to", in reality it was Floyd who didn't ALLOW HIM TO, his defense was too tight and Canelo didn't know how to deal, so he just got beat up, it wasn't that he abandoned his gameplan it was that he wasn't good enough to execute it, plain and simple
    Floyd is great at making his opponents fight his fight.

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    I really thought Canelo would win this and stayed up all night in the dream that he would be too big and strong. Floyd fought his best fight which was hit and not get hurt, unlike his approach to Cotto where he traded, and Canelo could do nothing to get to Floyd. I was very disappointed in Saul.
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    Default Re: Canelo's gameplan against Floyd.

    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    What do you think would have happened if Canelo had chosen to brawl against Floyd?

    Personally, I don't think the result would have been any different. As we saw later in the Lara fight, Canelo is terrible at cutting off the ring, and is flat-footed.
    I don't get why people keep saying "had chosen to", in reality it was Floyd who didn't ALLOW HIM TO, his defense was too tight and Canelo didn't know how to deal, so he just got beat up, it wasn't that he abandoned his gameplan it was that he wasn't good enough to execute it, plain and simple
    Floyd is great at making his opponents fight his fight.
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    Default Re: Canelo's gameplan against Floyd.

    I did think Canelo would at least put a hurtin on Floyd but Floyd made Canelo look like a ten year old flailing at the wind. I think the frustration level just overwhelmed him. He would probably look a little better against Floyd at this stage of his career but I wouldn't expect the end result to be different. God that was a horrible fight.

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    Default Re: Canelo's gameplan against Floyd.

    I don't recall a gameplan beyond 'Stand back and let him pot shot me all night'. Boring fight.

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    Default Re: Canelo's gameplan against Floyd.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    What do you think would have happened if Canelo had chosen to brawl against Floyd?

    Personally, I don't think the result would have been any different. As we saw later in the Lara fight, Canelo is terrible at cutting off the ring, and is flat-footed.
    I don't get why people keep saying "had chosen to", in reality it was Floyd who didn't ALLOW HIM TO, his defense was too tight and Canelo didn't know how to deal, so he just got beat up, it wasn't that he abandoned his gameplan it was that he wasn't good enough to execute it, plain and simple
    did floyd just fancy allowing maidana to?
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    Default Re: Canelo's gameplan against Floyd.

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    What do you think would have happened if Canelo had chosen to brawl against Floyd?

    Personally, I don't think the result would have been any different. As we saw later in the Lara fight, Canelo is terrible at cutting off the ring, and is flat-footed.
    I don't get why people keep saying "had chosen to", in reality it was Floyd who didn't ALLOW HIM TO, his defense was too tight and Canelo didn't know how to deal, so he just got beat up, it wasn't that he abandoned his gameplan it was that he wasn't good enough to execute it, plain and simple
    did floyd just fancy allowing maidana to?
    Did Floyd have any problems with him in the rematch? When Maidana fought the exact same fight?!, Floyd underestimated him, plain and simple, and that's not helping out Canelo's case of being limited and one dimensional, seeing how a small welterweight who's older still put up a better fight than he ever did

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    Default Re: Canelo's gameplan against Floyd.

    That was the strange think about it Floyd did not have to ask for Canelo to come at 155lb. It slightly discredits his achievement. I think he chose to fight aggressively against Cotto because he was smaller and slighter shop worn. I think Floyd wanted a stoppage and took chances against Cotto which he would not risk against Alvarez.
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    Default Re: Canelo's gameplan against Floyd.

    Cotto went at Floyd, forcing his hand. Canelo sat back and tried to (cough) box with Floyd. Huge difference. I don't know what Floyd was expecting from Cotto, but he probably didn't expect to be pressured in that manner. He adapted well, as he always does, and the fight was hugely entertaining. No one can say for sure what would've happened had Canelo tried to press Floyd.... it would've probably still been a shutout, only that Floyd would've then had to break a sweat. Most fans enjoyed watching Floyd-Cotto and did not expect much. People expected loads from Floyd-Canelo and were hugely disappointed.

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    I think they expected Floyd's legs to be shit. They looked terrible the fight before so they partially had reason to suspect his legs to be crap. I think that is why Pac is eager to fight now, because Floyd's legs looked shit against Maidana. Perhaps that is a trap Floyd pulls.

    It seemed Canelo wanted to make Floyd initiate and he would counter. I think they expected Floyd to be quick but not so quick. Like when Floyd would throw the right people often throw the left hook which Floyd easily ducks and exits right. It appeared they knew they couldn't catch him with the hook because repeatedly he skipped the hook and tried the uppercut as Floyd was ducked but he was too slow on this.

    It has to be questioned how much of his attack was stolen simply by making weight. Similar to Cottos weight vs Manny and how Cotto never again faught so low, Saul has never gone so low again either. And there is almost certainly a reason neither fighter has gone so low again. It doesn't work for their bodies and they felt that.

    In the end when the game plan won't solve all problems spacial awareness will. That's where Floyd wins, if you are here he knows you will do X, if you are there he knows you will do Y, and if you don't initiate he will sucker you into the situations he wants. That's why people stop moving their hands, they realize he knows what they are going to do and they will miss and get hit. Nobody wants to get hit by a guy that they can't hit.

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