Most incorrectly and overused terms in boxing (by fans)

[TitoFan]

Let's start with "ruined".

With all due respect to my friend Brock, but....... Maidana didn't ruin anybody.
He gave Floyd a hell of a fight, probably more than Floyd expected. But ruined??
No.

To me, ruined is where the other fighter is never the same after that.
Usually a grueling, punishing fight, where the fighter suffers irreversible wear and tear.

Another is "cherry-picking".

It's overused for sure. Cherry picking occurs... but not every soft touch a fighter intermixes in between tough fights should be considered cherry-picking. Once a cherry-picker, always a cherry-picker. Meaning that fighters that become known for that tend to do so more often than everybody else. But not everybody is a cherry-picker.

How about "exposed"?

That's a really overused term. What is exposed, anyway? To me is where the fighter's record was built with smoke and mirrors (parade of tomato cans, for example). A bogus record just waiting to be exposed by the first good opponent a fighter faces. That is exposed. But it's overused. Every time a fighter loses, he's been exposed. B.S.



I'm as guilty of using these terms as anybody else, but usually try to reserve them for cases that truly merit their use.

[Beanflicker]

People are too quick to use those terms for sure.

I find it amazing how people use terms like "cherry picking" without doing the research. People accuse GGG of cherry picking, when nobody worth a shit is willing to fight him. People accuse guys like RJJ, Floyd, ect of cherry picking without researching why certain fights never happened, too. It's amazing.

[Dark Lord Al]

The word GREAT is used all to often in the world of sport.

[TitoFan]

The word GREAT is used all to often in the world of sport.

Definitely.
Along with it are the ATG, GOAT, etc.
Some of us are just too lenient with those terms.

[TitoFan]

Yeah Bean... we're too quick to throw out these words as a convenient way to pigeon-hole fighter descriptions, without a second thought as to whether they really apply. Those are just three of the more common ones. I'm sure there are other popular terms out there that people use out of sheer laziness. Again, I'm not claiming I've never done it, but I try to be realistic when using one of those canned descriptions.

[Spicoli]

He's a bum
He is game
What a great chin
p4p one of the best ever
Great
Huge/devastating/tremendous/massive/explosive/ puncher
"World championship boxing"
He has fought "no one"
Dominant
It could have gone either way

[Ron Swanson]

the, a, he, was, will, has, should, can

[La Cucaracha]

Robbery

[Beanflicker]

Robbery

Agreed. Unless you feel the guy who lost won AT LEAST 8 out of 12 rounds, shut the fuck up about robberies. You can disagree with a decision, but if a fight is close enough to be decided on a round or two, it's not a robbery.

[Spicoli]

Robbery

That is a top one for sure. Good call. One of the ones that cannot afford to lose its impact or be watered down because unlike most, fighters are talking paychecks and immediate career effect with shit judges and a true robbery.

[Xwetie]

the belt for sure, "tonight they fighting for the world championship featherwelt supergoldstar 2 belt which was hand made in the United states by some famous guy" it's a frickin' belt no use for it, and pride to hold it? I hate those belts when they hold up 10 belts in the ring before a fight,. Just a bunch of drama; like saying, look what I got.

[Xwetie]

the belt for sure, "tonight they fighting for the world championship featherwelt supergoldstar 2 belt which was hand made in the United states by some famous guy" it's a frickin' belt no use for it, and pride to hold it? I hate those belts when they hold up 10 belts in the ring before a fight,. Just a bunch of drama; like saying, look what I got.

I know a lot of people will disagree as its kinda a tradition but after all it's just a belt.

[Bill Paxtom]

Let's start with "ruined".

With all due respect to my friend Brock, but....... Maidana didn't ruin anybody.
He gave Floyd a hell of a fight, probably more than Floyd expected. But ruined??
No.

To me, ruined is where the other fighter is never the same after that.
Usually a grueling, punishing fight, where the fighter suffers irreversible wear and tear.

Another is "cherry-picking".

It's overused for sure. Cherry picking occurs... but not every soft touch a fighter intermixes in between tough fights should be considered cherry-picking. Once a cherry-picker, always a cherry-picker. Meaning that fighters that become known for that tend to do so more often than everybody else. But not everybody is a cherry-picker.

How about "exposed"?

That's a really overused term. What is exposed, anyway? To me is where the fighter's record was built with smoke and mirrors (parade of tomato cans, for example). A bogus record just waiting to be exposed by the first good opponent a fighter faces. That is exposed. But it's overused. Every time a fighter loses, he's been exposed. B.S.



I'm as guilty of using these terms as anybody else, but usually try to reserve them for cases that truly merit their use.

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'Ruined'

Would lead everyone to assume that a fighter was never the same again, usually after absorbing
a frightful beating, and incapable of performing on a good level again.

See; Dwight Muhammad Qawi over Matthew Saad Muhammad
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'Cherry-Picking'

Yes, selecting an opponent who has absolutely 'no chance' of defeating you. Typically a
Champion selecting a 'safe opponent' to defend his Title against.

See; Ray Leonard ........Opponent List > Davey 'Boy Green, Larry Bonds, Bruce Finch
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'Exposed'

A fighter who had previously dominated, suddenly gets 'exposed' when he takes on a
somewhat unknown opponent who has his 'so-called' number.

See........... Carlos Monzon over Nino Benvenuti
See........... Pedro Flores over Yoko Gushiken
See........... Vernon Forest over Shane Mosely

[Beanflicker]

I think the exposed thing gets blown out of proportion because, to me, it's supposed to mean that a guy was SUPPOSEDLY A-level, fought another A-level guy and was beaten to the point where he was "exposed" as not truly elite.

But the fact is, A-level fighters lose to A-level fighters all the time, it doesn't in itself mean that the guy who lost was not A-level and was "exposed". I think a guy who unfairly gets that criticism is Prince Naseem, who was a world champ at featherweight for 7 or 8 years before losing to MAB. I never understood why losing to one of the greatest fighters in boxing history meant you were "exposed".

Shane Mosley is an all time great, I don't see why he was "exposed" because Forrest and Winky Wright had his number.

[Ron Swanson]

I think the exposed thing gets blown out of proportion because, to me, it's supposed to mean that a guy was SUPPOSEDLY A-level, fought another A-level guy and was beaten to the point where he was "exposed" as not truly elite.

But the fact is, A-level fighters lose to A-level fighters all the time, it doesn't in itself mean that the guy who lost was not A-level and was "exposed". I think a guy who unfairly gets that criticism is Prince Naseem, who was a world champ at featherweight for 7 or 8 years before losing to MAB. I never understood why losing to one of the greatest fighters in boxing history meant you were "exposed".

Shane Mosley is an all time great, I don't see why he was "exposed" because Forrest and Winky Wright had his number.

I think you are misinterpreting exposed. It just means shown for what it is. It doesn't mean the person "exposed" is a bum or any insult at all. At the time casual boxing people thought Naz was the best fighter in the world even though they were hiding him from Marquez and Mayweather. In this case exposed simply means shown to the masses that he wasn't the Superman they thought. He was exposed as a beatable great champion who was highly entertaining.