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    Since Froch has recently said nobody wants to watch Ward and GGG said the same because neither wants to fight him it seems like a good time to point out the truth. Ward was drawing 1.3 and 1.2 million on HBO, similar numbers to the HBO darling GGG. This is our sport now, lie until people believe the lie. Just keep repeating it because the truth is what fans want to believe. Just like team Pac did for years others will do. But,like then, the factual numbers don't lie. Ward did good numbers, that is a fact. Watch for the excuses why the facts don't matter to follow....

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    Not challenging you or the numbers, mind you.

    It just seems odd that for those numbers he's not in either HBO or showtimes stable of fighters now. He had all the straps, is unbeaten, beat the light heavy champ (*boiled down)... no longer injured and cleared up his contract disputes... and he's fighting on BET in a variety show of sorts with music. Somethings gotta be up...

    - No marketable competition for him at his weight, maybe? But GGG is ripping through unworthy opponents according to most so he'd be in the same situation.
    - The stables of each network is too big to fit one more?
    - Maybe his representation wants too much?

    I'm not sure what the reason is....Just sayin'...
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    I don't believe GGG doesn't want to fight him. I don't think Ward wants it right now. He's been out for 2 years. He's fighting Paul Smith ffs. A guy Groves iced in 2 rounds. I think Andre is a great fighter but he was asked by HBO if he wanted Golovkin and he said "not yet". Golovkin said "ok". I can understand Ward saying that as he needs to shake the rust off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Since Froch has recently said nobody wants to watch Ward and GGG said the same because neither wants to fight him it seems like a good time to point out the truth. Ward was drawing 1.3 and 1.2 million on HBO, similar numbers to the HBO darling GGG. This is our sport now, lie until people believe the lie. Just keep repeating it because the truth is what fans want to believe. Just like team Pac did for years others will do. But,like then, the factual numbers don't lie. Ward did good numbers, that is a fact. Watch for the excuses why the facts don't matter to follow....
    When you consider Froch-Groves 2 did 1 million and Froch-Kessler 2 did 1.2 million, both in the UK and likely got next to 0 publicity in the USA, you can understand what he means.

    I aint arguing about it, just comparing.

    I have never and will never buy an Andre Ward fight, far too boring.

    And i don't just say that to sound strong willed, the first and only PBF fight I ever paid for was vs Pac-man and that was due to the same reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Since Froch has recently said nobody wants to watch Ward and GGG said the same because neither wants to fight him it seems like a good time to point out the truth. Ward was drawing 1.3 and 1.2 million on HBO, similar numbers to the HBO darling GGG. This is our sport now, lie until people believe the lie. Just keep repeating it because the truth is what fans want to believe. Just like team Pac did for years others will do. But,like then, the factual numbers don't lie. Ward did good numbers, that is a fact. Watch for the excuses why the facts don't matter to follow....
    Truthfully, I don't enjoy watching Ward do his thing in the ring. I'm not arguing about his popularity, numbers, or anything else--I just don't get excited about his fights.

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    Gennady Golovkin blasts Andre Ward - Bad Left Hook


    Golovkins thoughts on Ward. I hope too much wasn't lost in translation because this is a great response.
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    That's interesting. I didn't know that he got that many viewers. Fortunately for him, he's right in the middle of two monsters (ggg and kov) which could really help him become the top p4p guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Gennady Golovkin blasts Andre Ward - Bad Left Hook


    Golovkins thoughts on Ward. I hope too much wasn't lost in translation because this is a great response.
    Damn! Puttin the smack down or what! That was great.

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    Hahaha I'm glad to see GGG take the good guy mask off. He should be calling these guys pussies and talking big shit so they can no longer avoid him.

    While he's at it he should tell Cotto to grow some balls and either defend his belt against the TRUE #1 MW or drop it and keep his ass down at 154.
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    Golovkin - taking off the nice guy mask, and it is a mask, he was a nasty little street fighter as a teenager beating the shit out of older guys that his 2 older brother told him to fight.
    I'm dying to see Golovkin in a war so we can see his nasty side come out 😊

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    Ha! Brilliant. Ward is so deluded that he has fallen for his own reflection. The bollocks that some fans, and now fighters it seems speak about Golovkin is a joke. Yes there is some hyperbole on the other side and GGG may not turn out to be the ATG that he looks like having the potential to be, but he has never come across as somebody happy to avoid a challenge.

    Nice to hear Golovkin drop the humble nice guy bit to vent his frustration for once. I didn't think Ward could make him self seem more of a twat than he already comes across as, but bingo, nice one Andre, you managed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Since Froch has recently said nobody wants to watch Ward and GGG said the same because neither wants to fight him it seems like a good time to point out the truth. Ward was drawing 1.3 and 1.2 million on HBO, similar numbers to the HBO darling GGG. This is our sport now, lie until people believe the lie. Just keep repeating it because the truth is what fans want to believe. Just like team Pac did for years others will do. But,like then, the factual numbers don't lie. Ward did good numbers, that is a fact. Watch for the excuses why the facts don't matter to follow....
    HBO dropped the ball on Ward's promotion. They can get it back, but they really dropped the ball on this. The Goosen promotional hold up made it much worse. In fact, if you look at it from an economic perspective, the Goosen hold up could have been used to raise the demand for Andre Ward- but it had not.

    Ward needs to go on a world tour. Fuck American fans for right now. He needs to go on a world tour, and his next 3 or 4 fights should be in places like London, Germany, Japan and China. He can get some fights and draw a few crowds there. Shit, even take a chance with Mexico and France. Who knows?

    Additionally, he needs to go on Oprah, at the very least. Cant have extraordinary talent just wasted without the proper push from the media.

    I would suggest Oprah, Good Morning America, The View, Ellen, etc... just go on a media blitz. ESPN too. Give the people a chance to love him and little more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Since Froch has recently said nobody wants to watch Ward and GGG said the same because neither wants to fight him it seems like a good time to point out the truth. Ward was drawing 1.3 and 1.2 million on HBO, similar numbers to the HBO darling GGG. This is our sport now, lie until people believe the lie. Just keep repeating it because the truth is what fans want to believe. Just like team Pac did for years others will do. But,like then, the factual numbers don't lie. Ward did good numbers, that is a fact. Watch for the excuses why the facts don't matter to follow....
    HBO dropped the ball on Ward's promotion. They can get it back, but they really dropped the ball on this. The Goosen promotional hold up made it much worse. In fact, if you look at it from an economic perspective, the Goosen hold up could have been used to raise the demand for Andre Ward- but it had not.

    Ward needs to go on a world tour. Fuck American fans for right now. He needs to go on a world tour, and his next 3 or 4 fights should be in places like London, Germany, Japan and China. He can get some fights and draw a few crowds there. Shit, even take a chance with Mexico and France. Who knows?

    Additionally, he needs to go on Oprah, at the very least. Cant have extraordinary talent just wasted without the proper push from the media.

    I would suggest Oprah, Good Morning America, The View, Ellen, etc... just go on a media blitz. ESPN too. Give the people a chance to love him and little more.
    I'm not quite sure that's possible. If only for the very same reason hbo "dropped the ball" on wards promotion. Who wants him on their show and for what reason? I'm sure he has the positivity of an potential guest... but he was a fighter with 2 or 3 world titles, on the mythical pound for pound list, beat a light heavy champ* but wont fight out of his own backyard unless its at wembly in front a massive crowd, fighting a guy he already beat decisively eventhough he just came off a 2 year layoff and his last 2 fights were against no hopers. We're talking about a world champ whose acting like a regional champ.

    Andre got his money through Roc..and I guess i'm happy for him. But I don't read forbes, so until the big contract landing primadonnas that feel like they made it to the top of the sport by way of their paycheck and not their performances, are ready to make statements. They don't matter a whole lot to me. I would imagine there are lot of people out there that feel the same way. So if ward wants to go on a promo world tour he can but he either has to push the envelope by campaigning as perhaps the "Anti Floyd" or a warrior who on behalf on Roc is going to single-handedly put haymon out of business by taking on and beating any PBC fighters within a division of him... (What a son of God without a crusade) ..

    He's either going to have to choke down some humble pie, fight a lot and put some fighters down in action packed fights and make everyone come to see him or stay on the path hes going and hope people come around and warm up to variety shows and his paid boxing lessons on BET. It appears hes content to count his money and do the latter as he becomes the Super Middle version of Michelchewski.
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    These responses show boxing is nothing more than a business!!! SMH

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