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    Default Nicholas Walters vs Sosa draw.

    Was there a bigger non-draw 'draw' robbery than this in 2015? I'm not into huge punch numbers and percentages but they were glaring in Walters favor. You didn't need them with the gap in skill so clear imo. The scary thing wasn't the draw calls..it was one judge had Sosa actually winning At the most, a Christmas friendly and the act of giving most, you might stretch 98-92 Walters. This call left me sober.

    Anyone see it remotely close?

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    Why did you spoil the fight?!!?

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    Default Re: Nicholas Walters vs Sosa draw.

    I can't actually think of a worse call recently. It wasn't a great performance from Walters or anything, but I think I would have given him every round, only a couple were at all close.

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    Default Re: Nicholas Walters vs Sosa draw.

    Really bad decision in my opinion the strangest thing is that walters was the star for that fight and with hbo and he was robbed against a relative nobody... I guess he must have annoyed someone important by not making weight for his last fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Really bad decision in my opinion the strangest thing is that walters was the star for that fight and with hbo and he was robbed against a relative nobody... I guess he must have annoyed someone important by not making weight for his last fight.
    That's honestly the lines of what I was thinking. Fenster mentioned how some "robberies" can be run up, it becomes a tag overused as much as 'great' too. But this was a literal middlefinger on Walters forehead that you have to think corrupt. Maybe knock Walters back a bit with new division, Loma chatter and neither officially loses. They get a raw tv friendly comer to launch again saying he went even etc. By midway it really looked a sparring session with roles clearly defined. As thick as Sosa was Walters was rolling his head, doing exactly what he wanted and dominating the real estate. The network push was really minimal for Walters and on commentary alone even though we know its all bs wrapping...Lampley was making a super hero out of Sosa the entire fight.

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    The really bad decision was when this idiot decided to post the result of the fight in the title of this thread!

    Don't be a moron!

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    Default Re: Nicholas Walters vs Sosa draw.

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    The really bad decision was when this idiot decided to post the result of the fight in the title of this thread!

    Don't be a moron!
    You know Rocco, fair and good point! I've whined about spoilers especially in titles and respect that was my bad and oversight bud. I hope we didn't ruin the fight when you watch it. Secondly, blow me. If you roam a boxing board the morning after such clear corruption you run the risk and benefit information that it actually happened, even if you're in ninja mode. Shine a light on that shat I say. Cheers and post your score up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    The really bad decision was when this idiot decided to post the result of the fight in the title of this thread!

    Don't be a moron!
    You know Rocco, fair and good point! I've whined about spoilers especially in titles and respect that was my bad and oversight bud. I hope we didn't ruin the fight when you watch it. Secondly, blow me. If you roam a boxing board the morning after such clear corruption you run the risk and benefit information that it actually happened, even if you're in ninja mode. Shine a light on that shat I say. Cheers and post your score up.
    There's a reason this loser is the only poster I have on mute on this forum.

    He's a troll and detriment to the forum.

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    Default Re: Nicholas Walters vs Sosa draw.

    Wow spoiler alert lol
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    Default Re: Nicholas Walters vs Sosa draw.

    I like Walters and thought he was going to be Crawford type special. What happened to this future star?
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    Default Re: Nicholas Walters vs Sosa draw.

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    The really bad decision was when this idiot decided to post the result of the fight in the title of this thread!

    Don't be a moron!

    Hey take a pil ffs.

    There is no such thing as a spoiler in 2016. Its an oxymoron where the boxing world is concerned. If people dont want to know something for some reason then turn off the computer. Dont come to an international boxing forum and tell people not to spoil it cause you have not seen it yet. So what if its in the tiltle rocco...tough shit.

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    Default Re: Nicholas Walters vs Sosa draw.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Was there a bigger non-draw 'draw' robbery than this in 2015? I'm not into huge punch numbers and percentages but they were glaring in Walters favor. You didn't need them with the gap in skill so clear imo. The scary thing wasn't the draw calls..it was one judge had Sosa actually winning At the most, a Christmas friendly and the act of giving most, you might stretch 98-92 Walters. This call left me sober.

    Anyone see it remotely close?
    No. I don't think Sosa won more then a rd. Puzzling really because if it was fixed, whats in it for anybody? I have to admit that Walters delayed reaction to the draw call was odd. Now that may have been str3am lag. It was a Top Rank co-feature and he promotes both guys and I just cant see an advantage other then putting Sosa's name on the map. Cant see Walters accepting a premeditated outcome but Arum manages Sosa as well as promotes him whereas Walters is managed by Lou and has a promo deal with Top Rank. Ton Schreck ought to change his name to Tom Schlep. Dude had Sosa ahead by 2 rounds. Could a fix be that much in your face? How do you lose a fight landing over 50% of your power shots? It happens but you never even needed that punch stat to know who won. Could it be that judges have gotten that incompetent? I mean really, every week?

    Like you I dont put much stock into punch stats but there are times when they get it right or at least have the separation about right regardless of the numbers.


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    Default Re: Nicholas Walters vs Sosa draw.

    I'd say it was just 3 bad judges and a fight that looked a lot more competitive than it was from their seats. I've always thought every sport should utilize any benefit of cameras that they can, boxing doesn't at all. Judges should at the very least have a monitor with the TV feed that they can check in on, if not solely watch the fight that way. With fights that take place mostly on the inside, the judges really are in about as poor a position to see what is happening as is possible.

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    Default Re: Nicholas Walters vs Sosa draw.

    It was a terrible decision. You would have to really try to give Sosa one round. It makes no sense. Walters is the guy that has been pushed so why do this? Sosa is tough but didn't look all that great. I don't see him being a champion one day or anything so its weird.

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    It all worked out for Bob. Now people will stop heckling Loma to fight Walters. When something seems fishy and works for Bob.....

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