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    Default Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

    Lots of people disappointed with his opposition - even though it's incredible for someone with 10 fights - so who should he fight?
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    Default Re: Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

    It's not about 10 fights. It's about him being called number 1 P4P.

    People saying he's the best fighter in 30 years

    On the 10 fights scale his opposition is great.

    He should fight Rigo who wants the fight, Berchelt who wants the fight or Mikey who wants the fight

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    Default Re: Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

    Well since you ask......

    For someone who was anointed as one of the best p4p with just a handful of professional fights, I'd say I'd like him to face the likes of Mikey Garcia in order to satisfy me. Someone who won't be overwhelmed by the hype by the time he steps into the ring. Someone who won't let Loma clown him like Marriaga just did.

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    Default Re: Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

    At 130 he's got Berchelt, Davis and Corrales. Add in Rigo as he apparently is willing to come to 130. At 135 there's Garcia and Linares. Flanagan and Easter are unbeaten belt holders. 140 might be a bit high but Crawford is the monster in the room.

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    Default Re: Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

    Right, so we have...

    Garcia - who just fought at 140, two weight divisions above Loma's current weight.

    Rigo - who just fought at 122, two weight divisions below Loma's current weight.

    Berchelt - someone at his current weight.

    Is that it? For a man that's had 10 fights he only has ONE worthwhile opponent in his own/current weight division that could satisfy fans? Doesn't leave him many options, does it?
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    Default Re: Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    Garcia - who just fought at 140, two weight divisions above Loma's current weight.


    Right. And the fight before last he was at 135... and before that he was at super featherweight.
    In this day and age where fighters go through weight divisions like pancakes at an "all you can eat", it's anything but a stretch to see Loma in there with Mikey.

    Or should we keep feeding him wide-eyed youngsters?

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    Default Re: Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    Garcia - who just fought at 140, two weight divisions above Loma's current weight.


    Right. And the fight before last he was at 135... and before that he was at super featherweight.
    In this day and age where fighters go through weight divisions like pancakes at an "all you can eat", it's anything but a stretch to see Loma in there with Mikey.

    Or should we keep feeding him wide-eyed youngsters?
    So you want a guy with 10 fights to move up in weight to challenge one of the P4P best in the world. A guy with 10 fights that hasn't even cleaned out his current division. For a guy with 10 fights he sure must be special.

    That was my point. Thanks.
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    Default Re: Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Right, so we have...

    Garcia - who just fought at 140, two weight divisions above Loma's current weight.

    Rigo - who just fought at 122, two weight divisions below Loma's current weight.

    Berchelt - someone at his current weight.

    Is that it? For a man that's had 10 fights he only has ONE worthwhile opponent in his own/current weight division that could satisfy fans? Doesn't leave him many options, does it?
    I get your point, no top fighter should ever fight a top fighter.

    But look how deceptive you are. You bring up Garcia fighting at 140 as if he is a 140 fighter. He isn't, he's chasing big fights. It was what, 3 fights ago Mikey was at Loma's current weightclass? They can meet at 135 no problem.

    And then you go to "has ONE worthwhile opponent in his own/current weightclass that could satisfy fans?" Because I only mentioned 1. But I didn't only mention one because there is only one. You said name 1-3 fighters that could satisfy fans. I had already named 3. So why would I name more when I've already named 3 that openly want to fight him? Should I also name great fighters that aren't looking at him? You've changed your question, perhaps tell me all the ways you intend to change it so I know exactly what picture you are trying to paint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    It's not about 10 fights. It's about him being called number 1 P4P. People saying he's the best fighter in 30 yearsOn the 10 fights scale his opposition is great.He should fight Rigo who wants the fight, Berchelt who wants the fight or Mikey who wants the fight
    Yes, exactly. His achievements in the ring pale in comparison to Andre Ward. There's now way on earth he should be rated #1 pound for pound. I have serious doubts he could have beaten the trio of JMM, Barrera, or Morales at featherweight. They were NEVER P4P #1. Now, if he beats Rigondueax and Garcia then sure he's pound for pound. Definitely if he beats Crawford.

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    Default Re: Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    It's not about 10 fights. It's about him being called number 1 P4P. People saying he's the best fighter in 30 yearsOn the 10 fights scale his opposition is great.He should fight Rigo who wants the fight, Berchelt who wants the fight or Mikey who wants the fight
    Yes, exactly. His achievements in the ring pale in comparison to Andre Ward. There's now way on earth he should be rated #1 pound for pound. I have serious doubts he could have beaten the trio of JMM, Barrera, or Morales at featherweight. They were NEVER P4P #1. Now, if he beats Rigondueax and Garcia then sure he's pound for pound. Definitely if he beats Crawford.
    Agreed.

    And that's great he's had over 400 amateur fights but were they all against taxi drivers?

    Sorry, but he needs to prove himself in the pro ranks with champions before putting him anywhere near Ward.

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    Default Re: Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

    In four years/10 fights Loma has fought 5 "world" champions and a further three world title challengers. Ward has been a pro for 13 years, fought 7 "world" champions in 32 fights.
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    Default Re: Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    In four years/10 fights Loma has fought 5 "world" champions and a further three world title challengers. Ward has been a pro for 13 years, fought 7 "world" champions in 32 fights.
    Ward is undefeated too. Plus he is in a heavier weight class and guys duck him more than the other way around.
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    Default Re: Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    In four years/10 fights Loma has fought 5 "world" champions and a further three world title challengers. Ward has been a pro for 13 years, fought 7 "world" champions in 32 fights.
    And your point? You are just pointing out that Ward has more credentials and a better case for p4p king.

    Also, weren't you the one saying how rankings were bogus so you can't use that as an argument but you are using world champions (obviously worthless titles for the most part) as a legitimate argument? At this point, Ward has easily beaten the better fighters. It's not close

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