Who's The Best

[GaMo]

[Primo Carnera]

Me.

[mikeeod]

I picked Sugar Ray but it really depends on how we are grading them as "best". If you are saying who, in my opinion, should be ranked the highest historically, then I stand by Ray. If you are asking who played the game the best (factoring in self promotion, risk vs. reward...etc.), then it becomes a Ray vs. Mayweather debate in my mind. If you are asking who was the most physically gifted and impressive of the three, then that would be Roy in my opinion. Either way, all three are/were great fighters and accomplished more than the vast majority could ever dream of.

[Batman]

Paul kevin

[GaMo]

I'm talking about the whole package. Career and talent
Who accomplished the most and who looked the best (at their best)

Ray won gold, Roy silver and Floyd bronze
So I guess who'd say Ray had the better amateur career.

Floyd won the most titles, Ray beat the bigger names
But Roy cleaned out and dominated his division.

[Batman]

I'm talking about the whole package. Career and talent
Who accomplished the most and who looked the best (at their best)

Paul Kevin

[mikeeod]

I'm talking about the whole package. Career and talent
Who accomplished the most and who looked the best (at their best)

Ray won gold, Roy silver and Floyd bronze
So I guess who'd say Ray had the better amateur career.

Floyd won the most titles, Ray beat the bigger names
But Roy cleaned out and dominated his division.

Honestly, I don't recall Roy ever cleaning out a division he was in, where both Ray and Floyd cleaned out divisions. If we are talking the whole package then I rank them in this order:

1. Ray
2. Floyd
3. Roy

I think Ray has both hands down on quality of opposition and special performances. Difficult to top the Duran and Hearns wins, and then throw in Benitez and the fight vs. Hagler (thought Ray lost but he got the win and performed MUCH better than I anticipated) and it is tough to match that level of competition. Roy has both on the "eye test", where he just looked so much more superior than everyone else, especially during his dominant performances against Ruiz, Montell, Toney...etc. Floyd is a balance between the two to me, where he beat slightly less impressive competition than Ray, but never had some of the "wow" performances of Roy. If you take Ray out and throw Manny, Hopkins, and Evander in there it will be a much more difficult debate in my opinion.

[Master]

I picked Ray Leonard, and I am not a fan of his as I only ever saw the boxer that beat Hagler onwards. He was the original Floyd, hand picking his fighters, weights and titles which were manufactured for him. I was so happy when he miscalculated and fought Terry Norris who battered him and then Macho Man.

However at welterweight he was a true great and was the total package. Leonard fought the best fighters and proved to be a truly great fighter from his come from behind win to beat another great fighter in Tommy Hearns. Leonard proved his heart, chin and punch power.

Roy Jones was awesome but p4p Leonard would beat Jones.

Floyd Mayweather is a complete and utter wanker in comparison.