Hypothetical Round scoring scenario! Punches landed vs Thrown.

[ykdadamaja]

Let me ask you folks a question,

Say for example, in a hypothetical fight, that one puncher throws 30 punches but lands 8 but comes forward more than the other fighter; and the other fighter lands throws 15 punches but lands 8.

Let us further for the sake of argument say that the first fighter throws 20 of those 30 punches with jabs, with the other 10 being "power punches"- which is anything else other than a jab, apparently- and the second fighter lands 6 of his 8 connected punches are power punches, and out of the 6, 5 of them were counter-punches.

How do you score the round? Because this is critical to why some would give GGG the fight in that the scenario of the first fighter.

Sure, GGG threw more; but his connect percentage was not that of someone who reflected the skill to win a fight.

There is a reason why after a knockdown a fighter gets deducted a point. Sure, there have been those weird 9-8 rounds, but typically in a standard fight a guy who scores a knockdown, REGARDLESS OF HOW EFFECTIVE HE WAS AT THE MARGINS DURING THAT ROUND, gets a 10-8 round.

[Master]

GGG was landing the more effective and point scoring punches throughout the fight.

GGG was initiating the fight and had Canelo on the ropes so it looked like he was in control of the fight.

GGG did miss a lot and allowed Canelo time to rest.

Canelo was firing in bursts and many not landing.

[imp]

Canelo was countering on the ropes.

Canelo was never hurt and made the better eye catching shots..

How many times has Floyd been pushed to the ropes and countered of it?...all his career!!!

[imp]

Canelo had no fear in him whatsoever..he was calm and picked his shots.

[ykdadamaja]

Canelo had no fear in him whatsoever..he was calm and picked his shots.

I saw GGG stunned into a complete stop for the first time EVER. Somewhere in Round 10 or 11. Gonna have to rewatch. But, Canelo hit him with something fierce and instead of GGG beckoning him to come on, he stubbled for a second and put his guard up. lololol....


These are GGGs last fights. I am seeing the wear and tear on his hand and eye coordination. I think, for his health's sake, GGG either takes a good LONG BREAK ala Floyd OR he retires after another 2 or maybe three fights. Rematch Canelo and possibly try to set up a good fight with Ward-- just move up in weight for the sake of it.

He has proven himself, in my mind, as one of the top Middleweights of all time. I don't think anyone surpasses Roy Jr., but a conversation can be made against him being above Hagler to some respect and being a more skilled technician than B-Hop. A case can be made on then All Time PFP Middlweights of all time.

[imp]

Props should be given to Canelo for stepping up a weight class to fight the best guy in the division...

Ward has done the same.

[brocktonblockbust]

GGG was landing the more effective and point scoring punches throughout the fight.

GGG was initiating the fight and had Canelo on the ropes so it looked like he was in control of the fight.

GGG did miss a lot and allowed Canelo time to rest.

Canelo was firing in bursts and many not landing.

Master George Foreman was initiating the entire fight and Ali was laying on the ropes for the whole eight rounds So based on that analysis you had George Foreman ahead right before the knockout?

[ykdadamaja]

GGG was landing the more effective and point scoring punches throughout the fight.

GGG was initiating the fight and had Canelo on the ropes so it looked like he was in control of the fight.

GGG did miss a lot and allowed Canelo time to rest.

Canelo was firing in bursts and many not landing.

Master George Foreman was initiating the entire fight and Ali was laying on the ropes for the whole eight rounds So based on that analysis you had George Foreman ahead right before the knockout?

lol

[Gandalf]

GGG was landing the more effective and point scoring punches throughout the fight.

GGG was initiating the fight and had Canelo on the ropes so it looked like he was in control of the fight.

GGG did miss a lot and allowed Canelo time to rest.

Canelo was firing in bursts and many not landing.

Master George Foreman was initiating the entire fight and Ali was laying on the ropes for the whole eight rounds So based on that analysis you had George Foreman ahead right before the knockout?

Big difference was that Canelo was throwing very little in those exchanges. He was coming up short a lot on those counters and like Master said, GGG was doing all the work. Canelo fights in spurts and it is his undoing, he loses a lot of rounds because he cannot sustain the action. It's a bit like with Calzaghe/Hopkins, like it or not Calzaghe was outworking his opponent. Same here. 50 more punches landed for GGG, busier and doing his thing on the ropes while Canelo takes a breather.

[Spicoli]

Quality over quantity I believe. I never put much stock into counting punches to decide who is actually having more of an effect. They tried that it in the amateurs and it doesn't tend to work out well either.

[GaMo]

GGG was landing the more effective and point scoring punches throughout the fight.

GGG was initiating the fight and had Canelo on the ropes so it looked like he was in control of the fight.

GGG did miss a lot and allowed Canelo time to rest.

Canelo was firing in bursts and many not landing.

Master George Foreman was initiating the entire fight and Ali was laying on the ropes for the whole eight rounds So based on that analysis you had George Foreman ahead right before the knockout?

Of course he did. In his eyes all you need to do is come forward to win a round, it doesn't matter about the punches he probably had that Japanese guy beating Cotto last time out.

[Primo Carnera]

GGG was landing the more effective and point scoring punches throughout the fight.

GGG was initiating the fight and had Canelo on the ropes so it looked like he was in control of the fight.

GGG did miss a lot and allowed Canelo time to rest.

Canelo was firing in bursts and many not landing.

Master George Foreman was initiating the entire fight and Ali was laying on the ropes for the whole eight rounds So based on that analysis you had George Foreman ahead right before the knockout?

I think you know , as I'm sure you've seen the Foreman /Ali fight many times, that this rope a dope thing is a bit misleading. I re-watched it recently and was surprised at just how much leather Ali threw and connected with. Yeah, he went on the ropes a bit and took a lot on his arms, but he connected with some good shots and I think this tired Foreman out just as much as the rope a dope myth.
Nobody wins rounds without throwing punches , BUT Ali and Floyd made it SEEM like they did. look carefully and it's a different story.

[Master]

You missed Canelo being bossed on the ropes, Canelo gulping for air because he was tired and running around doing nothing to avoid the pressure then.

Golovkin just piled on the points to win the fight.

At least Golovkin has his belts and can go home content that he fought a good fight.

[ykdadamaja]

And we all know it. If Floyd fought GGG and he did slightly a better job at slipping punches the way Canelo did, with the same punch stats, which Floyd can do, then GGG would have lost this fight by a very WIDE UD.

We all know it. Quit the emotionalism. GGG lost this fight, but not as wide as Adalaide Byrd, but certainly he lost this fight.

[imp]

This was not a landslide win.

Canelo just edged it, purely on boxing skills and making GGG miss and look stupid.

GGG is very beatable..expect another rematch fight with monroe to make everyone scared again!