Jan Zaveck vs. Andre Berto fight thread - on HBO tonight

[Gandalf]

Yeah, thanks god. That dude seems to help out all these fighters.

[armin]

why did Zaveck's corner not let him have a go

I think it comes down to having a german corner who are much more likely to err on the side of caution it seems, I personally think let zaveck have a go for a minute see what happens, if its goin to shit throw in the towel. Not even sure what caused the cuts there was a lot of bertos face on his eyes, good fight, but berto seems to have regressed and not improved.

[ruthless rocco]

i like it when fights are won based on punches not headbutts, doctors intervening or by people being paid to lose.(not saying this fight was fixed). terribly disappointed.

[LukeH]

Don't have a clue what Kellerman is talking about Berto didnt look like anything good.

Bad defence equals great fights apparently.

[captainanddew]

It looked like some of the damage was done by headbutts.

cut was from punch, but then it did look like it blew up after Berto's head got to it.

[Spicoli]

That was a bullshit wink wink stoppage when the going got tough. Poor little foreign guy comes to donate his trinket to a hype job. ...somewhere Wolak and Rodriquez are saying WTF

[LukeH]

Some idiot on Primetime just said Berto's in the Pacman, Mayweather tier.

[Kev]

Great fight, shame about the eye as it was really warming up.

Glad Berto has a belt again. I can't wait to see guys like Bradley and Khan move up and fight him, he's going to be dangerous, although he's still far too easy to hit. Crowd friendly though.

First time seeing Zavek. Really liked him, hope he bounces back and will look forward to seeing him again.

Not sure why Berto gets so much hate though.

[LukeH]

How would Berto have done against Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Mosley, and PW (2008 versions of each)?

Lost, Lost, probaly lost, lost, lost.

[Mars_ax]

Oh well, that's boxing, I felt sorry for Zaveck.

G'night, see ya'll next week for Vitali vs. Adamek and Gamboa vs. Ponce.

[captainanddew]

Some idiot on Primetime just said Berto's in the Pacman, Mayweather tier.

I think either Cotto or Margarito of 2008 would have beaten Berto. Mosley of a few years ago. PW at 147.
Berto just happens to be getting alot of credit as 147 isn't as strong as it was a few years ago.

[Andre]

Fuck it Jan was fireing from the inside well with short hooks I was hoping to see Berto get wobbled when he went square. Hard hitting fight.

Why does everyone hate on Berto so much? Does he talk himself up or something?

[CFH]

I think people dislike Berto because he seems to be just another HBO hype-job. He seems like a nice, honest guy though. I don't mind him at all, especially compared with the other wife-beating lowlifes boxing seems to attract.

[Kev]

Some idiot on Primetime just said Berto's in the Pacman, Mayweather tier.

I dont think anybody thinks Berto is as good as Manny or Floyd but clearly he's amongst that elite group of fighters good enough to be considered an opponent for them.

He's absolutely one of the best fighters from 140-154 and therefore right in the mix for a fight with either,

It's just hating to suggest otherwise.

[Mars_ax]

It looked like some of the damage was done by headbutts.

cut was from punch, but then it did look like it blew up after Berto's head got to it.

Berto had his fucking head in Zaveck's face the whole night, i'd bet the damage was from headbutts.