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    Default Re: Khan is an overrated, overhyped chump

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    They're so naive (basically you're utter divs) they don't even realise being in EXCITING fights makes you more marketable.

    Deary deary me...

    Not too naive to believe that if Khan loses another fight his "marketability" won't go straight into the toilet.
    Well it depends how he loses.

    If he loses his next fight and has HBO thanking him for being involved in yet ANOTHER great fight and has the worlds boxing media all printing he's been in yet ANOTHER FOTY candidate, his marketability will be just fine
    So I take it that you thought Khan's fights with Maidana & Peterson were FOTY candidates, I respectfully disagree. I don't doubt that Khan has some market value left, (there's no accounting for the taste of some boxing fans) but unless he looks somewhat impressive and/or wins his next couple fights, it's going to vanish.
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    Default Re: Khan is an overrated, overhyped chump

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    They're so naive (basically you're utter divs) they don't even realise being in EXCITING fights makes you more marketable.

    Deary deary me...

    Not too naive to believe that if Khan loses another fight his "marketability" won't go straight into the toilet.
    Well it depends how he loses.

    If he loses his next fight and has HBO thanking him for being involved in yet ANOTHER great fight and has the worlds boxing media all printing he's been in yet ANOTHER FOTY candidate, his marketability will be just fine
    So I take it that you thought Khan's fights with Maidana & Peterson were FOTY candidates, I respectfully disagree. I don't doubt that Khan has some market value left, (there's no accounting for the taste of some boxing fans) but unless he looks somewhat impressive and/or wins his next couple fights, it's going to vanish.
    Khan - Maidana was the Boxing Writers Association's fight of the year.

    Edit: Sorry i mean....

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    Default Re: Khan is an overrated, overhyped chump

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    They're so naive (basically you're utter divs) they don't even realise being in EXCITING fights makes you more marketable.

    Deary deary me...

    Not too naive to believe that if Khan loses another fight his "marketability" won't go straight into the toilet.
    Well it depends how he loses.

    If he loses his next fight and has HBO thanking him for being involved in yet ANOTHER great fight and has the worlds boxing media all printing he's been in yet ANOTHER FOTY candidate, his marketability will be just fine
    So I take it that you thought Khan's fights with Maidana & Peterson were FOTY candidates, I respectfully disagree. I don't doubt that Khan has some market value left, (there's no accounting for the taste of some boxing fans) but unless he looks somewhat impressive and/or wins his next couple fights, it's going to vanish.
    See what ono just posted.

    Larry Merchant THANKED Khan for a great fight. Influential boxing writers have all reported that Khan was in a FOTY candidate.

    Whether or not you think Khan is worth watching is irrelevant. You're clearly in a small minority. The TV networks, sports media and MOST boxing fans clearly ENJOY his fights. And want more.
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    Default Re: Khan is an overrated, overhyped chump

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
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    Mars Khan is doin fine the last few fights comes from early stoppage and Peterson who gives Khan a decent 12 round fight. Khan really improve especially his chin was questionable till he face like top rated Peterson. Eitherway Khan would win in slim margin if not with point deduction. Khan should work his constant unnecessary movement too much energy his been wasted. Overall his doin good a and decent fight for him.
    Like I've said on this thread UKPH, Khan is a good but not great fighter. He should have a bit more success in the coming years, but he's never going to be one of the best.

    I agree with this part. I think if the Peterson fight was in the UK, Khan would've won, but it wasn't it was in the US and it goes goes ways. He should not have let it be so close that points deductions decided the fight. I guess if you were being really kind to Khan, you could say Peterson benefited from a 3 point swing, with the not counted KD.

    Peterson showed great heart and he has won a new fan in me - great story, great guy!!

    I think Khan will win a rematch and I still think he has a very good chance against Bradley. It's clear that it's heart that you need to beat Khan, so Bradley will need that!

    As for a PBF fight, I think Khan would be completely dominated!
    Big-H, without the half-assed point deductions by the inept ref, Khan would have won a UD. That aside, Khan was in yet another battle to survive against Peterson, not unlike the Maidana scrap. Point is, if Khan is the juggernaut some boxing fans seem to believe he is, he shouldn't be getting clowned by these "contenders".

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    Default Re: Khan is an overrated, overhyped chump

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    Mars Khan is doin fine the last few fights comes from early stoppage and Peterson who gives Khan a decent 12 round fight. Khan really improve especially his chin was questionable till he face like top rated Peterson. Eitherway Khan would win in slim margin if not with point deduction. Khan should work his constant unnecessary movement too much energy his been wasted. Overall his doin good a and decent fight for him.
    Like I've said on this thread UKPH, Khan is a good but not great fighter. He should have a bit more success in the coming years, but he's never going to be one of the best.

    I agree with this part. I think if the Peterson fight was in the UK, Khan would've won, but it wasn't it was in the US and it goes goes ways. He should not have let it be so close that points deductions decided the fight. I guess if you were being really kind to Khan, you could say Peterson benefited from a 3 point swing, with the not counted KD.

    Peterson showed great heart and he has won a new fan in me - great story, great guy!!

    I think Khan will win a rematch and I still think he has a very good chance against Bradley. It's clear that it's heart that you need to beat Khan, so Bradley will need that!

    As for a PBF fight, I think Khan would be completely dominated!
    Big-H, without the half-assed point deductions by the inept ref, Khan would have won a UD. That aside, Khan was in yet another battle to survive against Peterson, not unlike the Maidana scrap. Point is, if Khan is the juggernaut some boxing fans seem to believe he is, he shouldn't be getting clowned by these "contenders".

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    Default Re: Khan is an overrated, overhyped chump

    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    I wouldn't call the points deductions a major controversy like some people seem to think. They were questionable at best.

    The ref could have issued warnings or called the fighters to break more often. He could have used a little discretion because it isn't as though Khan was flying in with his head or smashing peterson with his elbows.

    BUT the ref was well within his rights to take points off, Khan was fouling (not in a serious way but rules are rules) and fighting in Washington didn't help but it could just be put down to the ref being very strict.

    I have no problem with the result. Going in to the 12th I had a feeling it could go either way but that Khan would win on a split or a draw at least but when he had that point deducted he was fighting a losing battle and I would have been shocked if he had won. (taking in to account where they were fighting, fair or not).

    Khan only has himself to blame he lost the fight rather than Peterson won it, but i was very impressed with Petersons heart and never taking a backward step. He deserved it.

    When Khan was firing off those blistering combinations he looked amazing and looked as though he could stop Peterson but he was getting trapped far too much and taking punishment on the ropes.

    I say Khan wins the rematch fairly easily providing there are no point deductions.

    Bloody good fight though
    I think this post is pretty much spot on. Khan is over-rated but he is far from a chump. People need to think

    What would a 25 year old De-La Hoya have done with Peterson ?
    What would a 25 year old Mayweather have done with Peterson ?

    EXACTLY

    They would have beaten him easily

    In fact the likes of Arturo Gatti, Genero Hernadez, Diego Corrales, Oba Carr would have beaten Peterson and I consider the above C+ fighters.

    Maybe I'm under-estimating Lamont and people are all sucked in by his life story, which to be fair is heart-warming.

    But Khan should be dominanting and outclassing guys like Peterson, even with 2 point deductions. So on that score Khan is over-rated but he is still one of the elite fighters out there.

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    Default Re: Khan is an overrated, overhyped chump

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    They're so naive (basically you're utter divs) they don't even realise being in EXCITING fights makes you more marketable.

    Deary deary me...

    Not too naive to believe that if Khan loses another fight his "marketability" won't go straight into the toilet.
    Well it depends how he loses.

    If he loses his next fight and has HBO thanking him for being involved in yet ANOTHER great fight and has the worlds boxing media all printing he's been in yet ANOTHER FOTY candidate, his marketability will be just fine
    So I take it that you thought Khan's fights with Maidana & Peterson were FOTY candidates, I respectfully disagree. I don't doubt that Khan has some market value left, (there's no accounting for the taste of some boxing fans) but unless he looks somewhat impressive and/or wins his next couple fights, it's going to vanish.
    See what ono just posted.

    Larry Merchant THANKED Khan for a great fight. Influential boxing writers have all reported that Khan was in a FOTY candidate.

    Whether or not you think Khan is worth watching is irrelevant. You're clearly in a small minority. The TV networks, sports media and MOST boxing fans clearly ENJOY his fights. And want more.
    Fair enough, i'm probably in a minority, that's nothing new for me, but every blue moon or so, i'm actually right about something. Even a blind squirrel can occasionally find an acorn.

    I just don't see Khan's marketability/credibility staying the same after the loss to Peterson, and a loss in the rematch would diminish it even further.

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    Default Re: Khan is an overrated, overhyped chump

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    They're so naive (basically you're utter divs) they don't even realise being in EXCITING fights makes you more marketable.

    Deary deary me...

    Not too naive to believe that if Khan loses another fight his "marketability" won't go straight into the toilet.
    Well it depends how he loses.

    If he loses his next fight and has HBO thanking him for being involved in yet ANOTHER great fight and has the worlds boxing media all printing he's been in yet ANOTHER FOTY candidate, his marketability will be just fine
    So I take it that you thought Khan's fights with Maidana & Peterson were FOTY candidates, I respectfully disagree. I don't doubt that Khan has some market value left, (there's no accounting for the taste of some boxing fans) but unless he looks somewhat impressive and/or wins his next couple fights, it's going to vanish.
    Khan - Maidana was the Boxing Writers Association's fight of the year.

    Edit: Sorry i mean....
    So, does that mean I have to agree with them? BTW, can't you get me a better cat toy then that? I'd tear that one up really quick.
    Last edited by Mars_ax; 12-12-2011 at 06:50 PM.

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    Default Re: Khan is an overrated, overhyped chump

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    They're so naive (basically you're utter divs) they don't even realise being in EXCITING fights makes you more marketable.

    Deary deary me...

    Not too naive to believe that if Khan loses another fight his "marketability" won't go straight into the toilet.
    Well it depends how he loses.

    If he loses his next fight and has HBO thanking him for being involved in yet ANOTHER great fight and has the worlds boxing media all printing he's been in yet ANOTHER FOTY candidate, his marketability will be just fine
    So I take it that you thought Khan's fights with Maidana & Peterson were FOTY candidates, I respectfully disagree. I don't doubt that Khan has some market value left, (there's no accounting for the taste of some boxing fans) but unless he looks somewhat impressive and/or wins his next couple fights, it's going to vanish.
    See what ono just posted.

    Larry Merchant THANKED Khan for a great fight. Influential boxing writers have all reported that Khan was in a FOTY candidate.

    Whether or not you think Khan is worth watching is irrelevant. You're clearly in a small minority. The TV networks, sports media and MOST boxing fans clearly ENJOY his fights. And want more.
    Fair enough, i'm probably in a minority, that's nothing new for me, but every blue moon or so, i'm actually right about something. Even a blind squirrel can occasionally find an acorn.

    I just don't see Khan's marketability/credibility staying the same after the loss to Peterson, and a loss in the rematch would diminish it even further
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    Nope nobody is interested in Khan anymore.

    Who is this thread (that you felt the need to start) about again?

    Concerning the squirrel, yes he probably would, but unlike you he wouldn't stick it in his nose.

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    Bilbo, when did Floyd tweet about the Khan fight?? I've checked his page and can't find anything.

    I'm not looking for ammo to use against Khan or anything like that, I actually agree with with pretty much everything you've said. It's just I'm new to Twitter and I haven't quite sussed all this hash tag retweet bollocks yet. Did PBF make these comments somewhere other than on his own page?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    Nope nobody is interested in Khan anymore.

    Who is this thread (that you felt the need to start) about again?

    Concerning the squirrel, yes he probably would, but unlike you he wouldn't stick it in his nose.
    Is all the pubescent name calling and cute/clever little insulting innuendos about my lack of intelligence suppose to be bothering me Bibbo? Seriously old boy, ad hominem attacks and/or insults are the last refuge of someone with a childish mentality who's lost an argument. It just makes 'you' look like the fucking fool, and not me.

    Back on permanent ignore for you Bibbo, and even though I won't be reading it, please feel free to respond and continue making an arse out of yourself.

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    Default Re: Khan is an overrated, overhyped chump

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    khan might be a douche, but he has courage and some good skills. i dont like him either, but seeing him get battered and continue on the way he does ( maidana, peterson) shows he has balls and is willing to fight the biggest challenges, unlike some ( like gayweather).

    he may not be dominating, but he is a good young fighter who tries hard.
    More like courage born out of desperation, like i've already said on this thread, he's a decent fighter, but I fail see any "greatness" there. As for Khan's "entertainment" value, I don't see where his fights are all that fucking thrilling.

    They ARE thrilling. watching him get wailed and battered and trying to recoup is pretty cool. you are right tho, he isnt great. but so far his fights are entertaining. at least he fights guys that can scrap!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1FightFan View Post
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    khan might be a douche, but he has courage and some good skills. i dont like him either, but seeing him get battered and continue on the way he does ( maidana, peterson) shows he has balls and is willing to fight the biggest challenges, unlike some ( like gayweather).

    he may not be dominating, but he is a good young fighter who tries hard.
    More like courage born out of desperation, like i've already said on this thread, he's a decent fighter, but I fail see any "greatness" there. As for Khan's "entertainment" value, I don't see where his fights are all that fucking thrilling.

    They ARE thrilling. watching him get wailed and battered and trying to recoup is pretty cool. you are right tho, he isnt great. but so far his fights are entertaining. at least he fights guys that can scrap!!!
    Well, a lot of it just has to do with me not being a fan of Khan's, but yeah, i've gotta admit it is a bit entertaining seeing him get pounded by competition that he was suppose to "dominate". Certainly not thrilling however, more like comical.

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    Default Re: Khan is an overrated, overhyped chump

    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad View Post
    Bilbo, when did Floyd tweet about the Khan fight?? I've checked his page and can't find anything.

    I'm not looking for ammo to use against Khan or anything like that, I actually agree with with pretty much everything you've said. It's just I'm new to Twitter and I haven't quite sussed all this hash tag retweet bollocks yet. Did PBF make these comments somewhere other than on his own page?
    Hey Rantacat I can't find them now. I think they were linked on boxingtalk immediately after the fight.

    It was a typically insightful Floyd tweet which went something 'fuck Joe Cooper, that dumb ass black ni@#a fucking ruined that fight' or words to that effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    Bilbo, when did Floyd tweet about the Khan fight?? I've checked his page and can't find anything.

    I'm not looking for ammo to use against Khan or anything like that, I actually agree with with pretty much everything you've said. It's just I'm new to Twitter and I haven't quite sussed all this hash tag retweet bollocks yet. Did PBF make these comments somewhere other than on his own page?
    Hey Rantacat I can't find them now. I think they were linked on boxingtalk immediately after the fight.

    It was a typically insightful Floyd tweet which went something 'fuck Joe Cooper, that dumb ass black ni@#a fucking ruined that fight' or words to that effect.

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