James Toney

[rosco1984]

As great a fighter James Toney wos a had the misfortune ov watching a repeat ov his last outing against lebedev!fucking sad!before every1 jumps on me! A know this is a shadow ov the great fighter he wos but it wos horrible to c!not convoked thow prime Toney would beat a prime JC.just like every1 else joe's workrate would b to much for him.

[X]

I thought Toney was a very very good fighter.

He was a throwback fighter insofar that he learned his trade, he had all the old pro tricks and I think he would have fitted in very well with the likes of Jack Dempsey, Joe Jeannette or Sam Langford travelling up and down the country fighting anyone in a bar for a few dollars. He was tough as nails, skilled, good chin, arrogant and (for a while) he was probably one of the standout performers of his era.

For me, he just falls short of true 'greatness' though. He wasn't recognised as a world champ for long enough and he lost some his big fights. Unfortunately, the truth of the matter is that he was lazy. He frequently turned up to fight in poor shape, his lifestyle meant that he wasnt the best he could be

Because of the above, I do think Calzaghe had the style to beat him, just as Roy Jones had his number. Toney's style would have been harder for hagler to deal with (Marvin liked to come forward, and he could get outboxed by a real slickster). It would be a good fight, but I think that Hagler always entered the ring in top shape, he was even tougher than Toney and I think he would have found a way to win.

Doesn;t stop James Toney being a very very good fighter though.

[Master]

Toney will take a year off to recover from his injury and go back fighting bums but wanting to fight the Kilts.

[ICB]

James Toney only got outworked when he wasn't interested, and lazy like against Dave Tiberi. For example a Southpaw who liked to throw flurries, who was even more talented than Joe Calzaghe aka Michael Nunn he was able to KO him impressively.

Didn't he also deal with relentless pressure from a big Cruiserweight like Vassiliy Jirov ? so i don't see Joe Calzaghe just winning on workrate, against a prime interested James Toney no way in hell.

James Toney would be rolling with those flurries all night long, and he would be countering with right hands right down the pipe. He would probably drop Joe Calzaghe aswell en route to a decision win.