Gotta like froch..how will he beat ward?

[Majesty]

Pretty much expected him to ball Mack up like dirty laundry and get him out early but he is fighting with a Hellish intent of an attitude and delivery. Pretty Impressive. I think Bute is in for another drubbing. In a rematch though I still go with Ward.

I expect Mack will do well early, get caught at some point and be stopped mid or late.

[mrbig1]

I'm a big Carl Froch fan. He'll fight anyone anywhere. I still say he doesn't need Ward. At least not now. He will knock out Bute again. I want him to retire with money in his pocket and all his marbers.

[beenKOed]

Pretty much expected him to ball Mack up like dirty laundry and get him out early but he is fighting with a Hellish intent of an attitude and delivery. Pretty Impressive. I think Bute is in for another drubbing. In a rematch though I still go with Ward.

You are right, nobody was surprised when Mack couldn't avoid a KO, and Froch is fighting very confident right now.
I'm hoping Froch will do a repeat with Bute and then stay away from Ward. There are plenty of fights out there for Froch. I don't see the need to fight Ward ASAP.

[TheMacMagician]

I'd love to see Froch beat Kessler in Notts, and then finish his career off with a final war with Kessler to complete a trilogy in Vegas where EVERYBODY can't wait to watch the war unfold.

#FrochVsKesslerTrilogy Yes please.......

[imp]

I'd love to see Froch beat Kessler in Notts, and then finish his career off with a final war with Kessler to complete a trilogy in Vegas where EVERYBODY can't wait to watch the war unfold.

#FrochVsKesslerTrilogy Yes please.......

Nah.

A rematch with ward will show whether froch can adapt to his style and beat him.
Froch is still the 2nd best super middle weight today and to be number one he needs to beat ward.

He can rematch kessler again but leave it at that.
Hopefully he can get three fights in for next year with the last being ward.

[Rantcatrat]

Froch isn't beating Ward. It's not happening. Froch might have to settle for being the second best super middleweight in the world, but he needs to avenge his loss to Kessler before he even gets that title. At this point, because all signs point to Ward having a Hall of Fame career, it might not be the worse thing in the world if Froch is only the second best.

[mrbig1]

Froch isn't beating Ward. It's not happening. Froch might have to settle for being the second best super middleweight in the world, but he needs to avenge his loss to Kessler before he even gets that title. At this point, because all signs point to Ward having a Hall of Fame career, it might not be the worse thing in the world if Froch is only the second best.

Agree 100%. Well said sir.

[IamInuit]

Froch isn't beating Ward. It's not happening. Froch might have to settle for being the second best super middleweight in the world, but he needs to avenge his loss to Kessler before he even gets that title. At this point, because all signs point to Ward having a Hall of Fame career, it might not be the worse thing in the world if Froch is only the second best.

I cant agree with that. Who knows how Ward would be effected if he were to actually go to Nottingham. I realize he has math and the history of rematches on his side but its not a slam dunk. Now I'm not saying he would fold like Bute did from the hostile crowd but there is little doubt in my mind that it would have an effect. Add to that the way that Froch seems to fight at home and some adjustments they might make and it could be interesting.

Kessler makes the most sense since it was so close on the cards but I have this feeling that we have heard the last of Kessler on the elite stage. For lack of a better phrase he has lost the eye of the tiger.
I think he most likely beats Magee and then he will hide out in Denmark for the rest of his career never rematching Ward or Froch.

Where Bute is concerned I'm starting to think although I hate to say it that he is somehow going to bail on the Froch rematch even though he may be tarred and feathered by Quebec fans. Maybe he goes for it and I hope he does but he to looked like a mentally beaten man for much of that Grachev fight. Another gut feeling is that they are thinking about and all Quebec showdown with Pascal if he beats Dawson in March.

A Ward/Froch rematch is the best fight in the division because of the way Carl has stormed back. Perhaps Ward does win again but I don't figure its as finite as many believe especially if he chooses to fight in Nottingham. Nobody gave Lamotta a chance when he re-matched Robinson and yet Jake even out jabbed him. Nobody really gave a 37 year old Robinson much chance to beat Basilio in the rematch. Norris/Brown, Randall/Chavez, Nelson/Leja etc etc. I hope Froch/Ward 2 happens.

[Tam Seddon]

Froch isn't beating Ward. It's not happening. Froch might have to settle for being the second best super middleweight in the world, but he needs to avenge his loss to Kessler before he even gets that title. At this point, because all signs point to Ward having a Hall of Fame career, it might not be the worse thing in the world if Froch is only the second best.

I cant agree with that. Who knows how Ward would be effected if he were to actually go to Nottingham. I realize he has math and the history of rematches on his side but its not a slam dunk. Now I'm not saying he would fold like Bute did from the hostile crowd but there is little doubt in my mind that it would have an effect. Add to that the way that Froch seems to fight at home and some adjustments they might make and it could be interesting.

Kessler makes the most sense since it was so close on the cards but I have this feeling that we have heard the last of Kessler on the elite stage. For lack of a better phrase he has lost the eye of the tiger.
I think he most likely beats Magee and then he will hide out in Denmark for the rest of his career never rematching Ward or Froch.

Where Bute is concerned I'm starting to think although I hate to say it that he is somehow going to bail on the Froch rematch even though he may be tarred and feathered by Quebec fans. Maybe he goes for it and I hope he does but he to looked like a mentally beaten man for much of that Grachev fight. Another gut feeling is that they are thinking about and all Quebec showdown with Pascal if he beats Dawson in March.

A Ward/Froch rematch is the best fight in the division because of the way Carl has stormed back. Perhaps Ward does win again but I don't figure its as finite as many believe especially if he chooses to fight in Nottingham. Nobody gave Lamotta a chance when he re-matched Robinson and yet Jake even out jabbed him. Nobody really gave a 37 year old Robinson much chance to beat Basilio in the rematch. Norris/Brown, Randall/Chavez, Nelson/Leja etc etc. I hope Froch/Ward 2 happens.

I read before that Kessler is open to a rematch with Froch any place and anytime. He said he beat him before and he will beat him again. I hope Kessler actually means what he said and would be willing to return the favour to Froch and travel for this fight. Fair is fair with Froch travelling to Denmark first time out. I think this is the fight Froch needs to set up a Ward rematch. I hope he can pull them both off.

[Rantcatrat]

Froch isn't beating Ward. It's not happening. Froch might have to settle for being the second best super middleweight in the world, but he needs to avenge his loss to Kessler before he even gets that title. At this point, because all signs point to Ward having a Hall of Fame career, it might not be the worse thing in the world if Froch is only the second best.

I cant agree with that. Who knows how Ward would be effected if he were to actually go to Nottingham. I realize he has math and the history of rematches on his side but its not a slam dunk. Now I'm not saying he would fold like Bute did from the hostile crowd but there is little doubt in my mind that it would have an effect. Add to that the way that Froch seems to fight at home and some adjustments they might make and it could be interesting.

Kessler makes the most sense since it was so close on the cards but I have this feeling that we have heard the last of Kessler on the elite stage. For lack of a better phrase he has lost the eye of the tiger.
I think he most likely beats Magee and then he will hide out in Denmark for the rest of his career never rematching Ward or Froch.

Where Bute is concerned I'm starting to think although I hate to say it that he is somehow going to bail on the Froch rematch even though he may be tarred and feathered by Quebec fans. Maybe he goes for it and I hope he does but he to looked like a mentally beaten man for much of that Grachev fight. Another gut feeling is that they are thinking about and all Quebec showdown with Pascal if he beats Dawson in March.

A Ward/Froch rematch is the best fight in the division because of the way Carl has stormed back. Perhaps Ward does win again but I don't figure its as finite as many believe especially if he chooses to fight in Nottingham. Nobody gave Lamotta a chance when he re-matched Robinson and yet Jake even out jabbed him. Nobody really gave a 37 year old Robinson much chance to beat Basilio in the rematch. Norris/Brown, Randall/Chavez, Nelson/Leja etc etc. I hope Froch/Ward 2 happens.

What makes you think Bute is going to bail?

I just think styles make fights and Froch didin't do well with Ward's style in any way. Nothing is set in stone though. I'll tell you what: Froch would do a lot better than Pavlik woill against Ward in January. That much is certain

[IamInuit]

Froch isn't beating Ward. It's not happening. Froch might have to settle for being the second best super middleweight in the world, but he needs to avenge his loss to Kessler before he even gets that title. At this point, because all signs point to Ward having a Hall of Fame career, it might not be the worse thing in the world if Froch is only the second best.

I cant agree with that. Who knows how Ward would be effected if he were to actually go to Nottingham. I realize he has math and the history of rematches on his side but its not a slam dunk. Now I'm not saying he would fold like Bute did from the hostile crowd but there is little doubt in my mind that it would have an effect. Add to that the way that Froch seems to fight at home and some adjustments they might make and it could be interesting.

Kessler makes the most sense since it was so close on the cards but I have this feeling that we have heard the last of Kessler on the elite stage. For lack of a better phrase he has lost the eye of the tiger.
I think he most likely beats Magee and then he will hide out in Denmark for the rest of his career never rematching Ward or Froch.

Where Bute is concerned I'm starting to think although I hate to say it that he is somehow going to bail on the Froch rematch even though he may be tarred and feathered by Quebec fans. Maybe he goes for it and I hope he does but he to looked like a mentally beaten man for much of that Grachev fight. Another gut feeling is that they are thinking about and all Quebec showdown with Pascal if he beats Dawson in March.

A Ward/Froch rematch is the best fight in the division because of the way Carl has stormed back. Perhaps Ward does win again but I don't figure its as finite as many believe especially if he chooses to fight in Nottingham. Nobody gave Lamotta a chance when he re-matched Robinson and yet Jake even out jabbed him. Nobody really gave a 37 year old Robinson much chance to beat Basilio in the rematch. Norris/Brown, Randall/Chavez, Nelson/Leja etc etc. I hope Froch/Ward 2 happens.

I read before that Kessler is open to a rematch with Froch any place and anytime. He said he beat him before and he will beat him again. I hope Kessler actually means what he said and would be willing to return the favour to Froch and travel for this fight. Fair is fair with Froch travelling to Denmark first time out. I think this is the fight Froch needs to set up a Ward rematch. I hope he can pull them both off.

Yeah he's said that but imo its just bravado. I think the tourney took whatever was left over post Joe out of him. His talk seems disingenuous to me and his body language when he existed the tourney did not look right. I doubt very much that he would travel to Nottingham. I just think and hope I'm wrong that he will get a trinket and then covet it never leaving Denmark.

[IamInuit]

Froch isn't beating Ward. It's not happening. Froch might have to settle for being the second best super middleweight in the world, but he needs to avenge his loss to Kessler before he even gets that title. At this point, because all signs point to Ward having a Hall of Fame career, it might not be the worse thing in the world if Froch is only the second best.

I cant agree with that. Who knows how Ward would be effected if he were to actually go to Nottingham. I realize he has math and the history of rematches on his side but its not a slam dunk. Now I'm not saying he would fold like Bute did from the hostile crowd but there is little doubt in my mind that it would have an effect. Add to that the way that Froch seems to fight at home and some adjustments they might make and it could be interesting.

Kessler makes the most sense since it was so close on the cards but I have this feeling that we have heard the last of Kessler on the elite stage. For lack of a better phrase he has lost the eye of the tiger.
I think he most likely beats Magee and then he will hide out in Denmark for the rest of his career never rematching Ward or Froch.

Where Bute is concerned I'm starting to think although I hate to say it that he is somehow going to bail on the Froch rematch even though he may be tarred and feathered by Quebec fans. Maybe he goes for it and I hope he does but he to looked like a mentally beaten man for much of that Grachev fight. Another gut feeling is that they are thinking about and all Quebec showdown with Pascal if he beats Dawson in March.

A Ward/Froch rematch is the best fight in the division because of the way Carl has stormed back. Perhaps Ward does win again but I don't figure its as finite as many believe especially if he chooses to fight in Nottingham. Nobody gave Lamotta a chance when he re-matched Robinson and yet Jake even out jabbed him. Nobody really gave a 37 year old Robinson much chance to beat Basilio in the rematch. Norris/Brown, Randall/Chavez, Nelson/Leja etc etc. I hope Froch/Ward 2 happens.

What makes you think Bute is going to bail?

Just a gut feeling. Btw I so want to be wrong. He looked discouraged against Grachev and at times like he was somewhere else. I could be dead wrong. I'm looking forward to see what kind of comments come out of Butes camp.

I just think styles make fights and Froch didin't do well with Ward's style in any way. Nothing is set in stone though. I'll tell you what: Froch would do a lot better than Pavlik woill against Ward in January. That much is certain

Agreed and Wards style is oddball and tough to crack but at times the winning style in the first go loses to the alternate style in the second.

Rant I want Bute to exact revenge badly but I don't think he's right upstairs. The fight may go off anyway just because of the money/ego's etc but I do think a chance exists that they side step it.
The calender matches up for the rematch much better then the others. I do think a massive all Quebec fight with Pascal is inevitable.

[imp]

Ward biggest threat in the division is froch. Ward doesnt have to fight him again he could just move up in weight. But froch is the biggest threat..in nottingham.

[0james0]

Kessler isn't normally one for being mouthy and I get the impression he's a pretty decent guy, so I can't see why he would publicly say he would fight Froch in Nottingham, then not do it.

Froch has fought his way back into a rematch with Ward, after the first fight I thought they were leagues apart. Now, I think Froch has a chance again. I worry he'll get outfoxed, but he has the best chance to beat him.

[heyram1]

ward is going to beat Froch..