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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid
    On the principal that all fighters listed must of turned pro in 1976 or later, here is my Top 30:


    30 James Toney
    29 Ronald ‘Winky’ Wright
    28 Orlando Canizales
    27 Mike Tyson
    26 Sot Chitalada
    25 Jeff Chandler
    24 Lennox Lewis
    23 Floyd Mayweather Jr
    22 Aaron Pryor
    21 Myung Woo Yuh
    20 Jung Koo Chang
    19 Kostya Tszyu
    18 Brian Mitchell
    17 Jeff Fenech
    16 Salvador Sanchez
    15 Marco Antonio Barrera
    14 Mike McCallum
    13 Felix Trinidad
    12 Evander Holyfield
    11 Khoasio Galaxy
    10 Michael Spinks
    9 Azumah Nelson
    8 Bernard Hopkins
    7 Ricardo Lopez
    6 Roy Jones
    5 Thomas Hearns
    4 Pernell Whitaker
    3 Oscar de la Hoya
    2 Julio Cesar Chavez
    1 Ray Leonard
    I have asked you this question before and I will ask you again because you never seem to give a good answer, how do you have Chavez above Whitaker. Besides look at the ODH fight, Whitaker landed 50 more punches including knocking Oscar down and dipped and dogged all his hard punches all night long, it was a clear victory. Compare that with the way ODH fought Chavez when Chavez was beyond his prime and you can see the greatness. Pernell get's my vote. He outclassed 2 out of the three boxers ahead of him in their primes.
    Just don't see how anybody could score the De La Hoya fight in favour of Whitaker
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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

    Pernell Whittaker.
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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by cockey cockney
    Who would everyone say is the best fighter of the last 30 years? Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Whitaker, ODLH, Chavez, Hopkins, RJJ all have to be up there!
    Boxing skills I would say Lennox Lewis, Bernard Hopkins, Ray Leonard
    Raw talent RJJ
    Excitement Oscar Delahoya

    I will include Mayweather in boxing skills once he fights a big name fighter who's not too far past his prime. (I suppose that might never happen.)

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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by X
    hey, everyone has forgotten John Ruiz.

    For that matter, how about the beat it bruiser, Paul Reubens.












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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
    Quote Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid
    On the principal that all fighters listed must of turned pro in 1976 or later, here is my Top 30:


    30 James Toney
    29 Ronald ‘Winky’ Wright
    28 Orlando Canizales
    27 Mike Tyson
    26 Sot Chitalada
    25 Jeff Chandler
    24 Lennox Lewis
    23 Floyd Mayweather Jr
    22 Aaron Pryor
    21 Myung Woo Yuh
    20 Jung Koo Chang
    19 Kostya Tszyu
    18 Brian Mitchell
    17 Jeff Fenech
    16 Salvador Sanchez
    15 Marco Antonio Barrera
    14 Mike McCallum
    13 Felix Trinidad
    12 Evander Holyfield
    11 Khoasio Galaxy
    10 Michael Spinks
    9 Azumah Nelson
    8 Bernard Hopkins
    7 Ricardo Lopez
    6 Roy Jones
    5 Thomas Hearns
    4 Pernell Whitaker
    3 Oscar de la Hoya
    2 Julio Cesar Chavez
    1 Ray Leonard
    I have asked you this question before and I will ask you again because you never seem to give a good answer, how do you have Chavez above Whitaker. Besides look at the ODH fight, Whitaker landed 50 more punches including knocking Oscar down and dipped and dogged all his hard punches all night long, it was a clear victory. Compare that with the way ODH fought Chavez when Chavez was beyond his prime and you can see the greatness. Pernell get's my vote. He outclassed 2 out of the three boxers ahead of him in their primes.
    Just don't see how anybody could score the De La Hoya fight in favour of Whitaker
    If you did not see the fight of course not.

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    You need to learn to score a fight if you think Whitaker won that
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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
    You need to learn to score a fight if you think Whitaker won that
    Show some love H, he landed 50 more punches and scored a knock down, it's fine if you disagree, actually I want you to disagree so we can debate but if you think that fight was a blow out maybe you should learn how to score a fight, one last thing, out of the 107 sports writers who scored the fight 88 thought Whitaker won, I guess they should learn how to score fights also

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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
    You need to learn to score a fight if you think Whitaker won that
    Show some love H, he landed 50 more punches and scored a knock down, it's fine if you disagree, actually I want you to disagree so we can debate but if you think that fight was a blow out maybe you should learn how to score a fight, one last thing, out of the 107 sports writers who scored the fight 88 thought Whitaker won, I guess they should learn how to score fights also
    I guess they should
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    P.S - It's all tongue in cheek BB, I do love ya
    God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I'll say it again, God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I don't believe in magic, I don't believe in I-ching, I don't believe in bible, I don't believe in tarot, I don't believe in Hitler, I don't believe in Jesus, I don't believe in Kennedy, I don't believe in Buddha, I don't believe in mantra, I don't believe in Gita, I don't believe in yoga, I don't believe in kings, I don't believe in Elvis, I don't believe in Zimmerman, I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me!!


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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by cockey cockney
    Very nice list Britkid, dont get me wrong i aint disputing ya list becuase i completely agree with SRL no 1 but what are your reasons for him being top!?
    However, apologies if i missed it but where is Marvellous Marvin!
    It took gritted teeth to admit SRL deserved to be #1...

    We all know why he is #1

    Adapted to beat a near prime Duran

    Showed amazing ability to beat the underrated Kalule at a heavier weight (154lbs)

    Beat a near prime Hitman, having to comeback from the verge of defeat to win it in the 'Championship' rounds

    Came back to 'beat' Hagler when he had only had one poor fight in five years.

    And although he did not win that fight IMO, there is no doubt it was amazing performance just to see him last 12 rounds. No one thought for one second Marvin agreeing to a 12 rather than 15 round fight would make any difference when the contract was written. Hagler was expected to win easily and quickly...

    Showed a great brain by managing to win a 175lbs title at 168lbs (VS Donny Lalonde)

    And sucked it up in Hearns rematch to give Tommy one hell of a battle, and help make the fight a fine rematch to a classic original.

    Now I feel all dirty, think I need to see Leonard/Camacho again

    As for Marvin, I did state that I only rated fighters who turned pro in 1976 or later; Marvin of course, turned pro in 1973.

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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid

    As for Marvin, I did state that I only rated fighters who turned pro in 1976 or later; Marvin of course, turned pro in 1973.
    Of course

    I missed that to. The Minter bout was in '80, so I figured he had turned pro by 76. Wow he really did have a long journey. I guess now I have more of an understanding on why the other champions were kind of just waiting for Hagler to go away. He was a 10 year vet by the time he fought Duran. Something I didn't know. I always saw the fight as a young Hagler with a lot of fights versus an aging and past his best Duran. CC BK.

    I think the most talented fighter of the last 30 years was Whitaker. I think the greatest is probaby Leonard or Hearns, based off of accomplishments. It's really just splitting hairs. I could make arguments for and against a lot of those people so I don't even know.

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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid
    Quote Originally Posted by cockey cockney
    Very nice list Britkid, dont get me wrong i aint disputing ya list becuase i completely agree with SRL no 1 but what are your reasons for him being top!?
    However, apologies if i missed it but where is Marvellous Marvin!
    It took gritted teeth to admit SRL deserved to be #1...

    We all know why he is #1

    Adapted to beat a near prime Duran

    Showed amazing ability to beat the underrated Kalule at a heavier weight (154lbs)

    Beat a near prime Hitman, having to comeback from the verge of defeat to win it in the 'Championship' rounds

    Came back to 'beat' Hagler when he had only had one poor fight in five years.

    And although he did not win that fight IMO, there is no doubt it was amazing performance just to see him last 12 rounds. No one thought for one second Marvin agreeing to a 12 rather than 15 round fight would make any difference when the contract was written. Hagler was expected to win easily and quickly...

    Showed a great brain by managing to win a 175lbs title at 168lbs (VS Donny Lalonde)

    And sucked it up in Hearns rematch to give Tommy one hell of a battle, and help make the fight a fine rematch to a classic original.

    Now I feel all dirty, think I need to see Leonard/Camacho again

    As for Marvin, I did state that I only rated fighters who turned pro in 1976 or later; Marvin of course, turned pro in 1973.
    for the explanation!

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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

    also britkid doesnt admit this

    but SRL is his fave fighter of all time, has posters of him on the wall
    i know ya hate him really bk
    I'm the real pretty boy

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    Default Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by beds
    also britkid doesnt admit this

    but SRL is his fave fighter of all time, has posters of him on the wall
    i know ya hate him really bk
    'Hate' is such a harsh word... but totally fair!

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