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    Default Re: Is Deontay Wilder the real deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I think Stiverne beats Areolae again and will give Wilder at least a test. Surely he'll at least land one meaningful punch. ( I like others think Scott felt the power and thought fuck this).

    Maybe Wilder sparks Stiverne and then sparks Vlad too and we still don't know. Nothing would make me happier.
    In theory Wilder has a chance of being able to spark Wladimir if Wladimir doesn't land first. He could pull a Corey Sanders on him.

    It would surely be fun to watch while it lasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I think Stiverne beats Areolae again and will give Wilder at least a test. Surely he'll at least land one meaningful punch. ( I like others think Scott felt the power and thought fuck this).

    Maybe Wilder sparks Stiverne and then sparks Vlad too and we still don't know. Nothing would make me happier.
    In theory Wilder has a chance of being able to spark Wladimir if Wladimir doesn't land first. He could pull a Corey Sanders on him.

    It would surely be fun to watch while it lasted.
    Yes but I fear Wlad is too skilled, seasoned and too much without a few good tests to prepare Wilder.

    Of course ignorance is bliss and maybe Wilder right now brimming with confidence might actually attack Wlad with wreck less abandon n have a chance unlike most everyone else who goes in cautious n already defeated.

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    Default Re: Is Deontay Wilder the real deal?

    We will see when he steps up his competition from a friend to someone who has talent and will try.
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    Default Re: Is Deontay Wilder the real deal?

    There is only one way a Wlad/Wilder fight can go- and it's by ko, possibly before 6. lololol....
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    [QUOTE=powerpuncher;1231065]we will see after next fight. if he can KO the winner of arreola/stiverne then i will say that he should be next in line to fight wlad.[/

    "After The Next Fight" should be Wilder's alias.

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    Default Re: Is Deontay Wilder the real deal?

    I think Arreola would test Wilder because he can take a punch and has good power. Plus in his last fight he seems to be getting his shit together.

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    Default Re: Is Deontay Wilder the real deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    It's not Wilder's fault that nobody so far can last a few rounds with him. His opposition is steadly getting tougher yet they are going the same way as the rest. He clearly has sicko power.

    If he falls short against the top ranked guys then everyone can say "I told you so" but is there a fighter out there that he doesn't have a chance of sparking (apart from Oliver McCall)?

    He's currently the most exciting heavyweight in the world.
    I'm just not convinced bud. I think numbers can be a bit deceptive, power is as good as who you are putting in on I think. He is the beneficiary of very calculated and baby steps type match making. Sure, hes doing his job and you gotta respect putting guys away, getting it over with but its nothing that is not expected..you don't ask if he'll win because the match up is deemed tough or real challenging..you ask when and what round vs Scott because its deemed not to be. You don't know what you have until you are challenged..not pre on paper but in the ring and I don't buy at all that they can not get better or no one will face this big mean monster so he's taking whats in front of him. Different interpetations of excitement. He may be the highest visible and easy to see, name to read and promoted as far as American but he has been anointed to the throne without taking, literally, a shot from a serious heavyweight challenger. We love ko's..guys left in heaps is what you think when you think heavyweights, I get it. But predictability and running up a record and seeing a guy exert more energy in his celebration than in the actual fight itself is not excitment or frankly all that entertaining, to me at least. Trust me dude..I'm red, white & blue and would love the title back in the States but right now all I see is a guy waltzing to a title shot like he is driving thru Taco Bell ordering dinner, fast food and pre packaged. Next fight, maybe his next match will be a guy who doesn't read the script and is equally hungry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    It's not Wilder's fault that nobody so far can last a few rounds with him. His opposition is steadly getting tougher yet they are going the same way as the rest. He clearly has sicko power.

    If he falls short against the top ranked guys then everyone can say "I told you so" but is there a fighter out there that he doesn't have a chance of sparking (apart from Oliver McCall)?

    He's currently the most exciting heavyweight in the world.
    I'm just not convinced bud. I think numbers can be a bit deceptive, power is as good as who you are putting in on I think. He is the beneficiary of very calculated and baby steps type match making. Sure, hes doing his job and you gotta respect putting guys away, getting it over with but its nothing that is not expected..you don't ask if he'll win because the match up is deemed tough or real challenging..you ask when and what round vs Scott because its deemed not to be. You don't know what you have until you are challenged..not pre on paper but in the ring and I don't buy at all that they can not get better or no one will face this big mean monster so he's taking whats in front of him. Different interpetations of excitement. He may be the highest visible and easy to see, name to read and promoted as far as American but he has been anointed to the throne without taking, literally, a shot from a serious heavyweight challenger. We love ko's..guys left in heaps is what you think when you think heavyweights, I get it. But predictability and running up a record and seeing a guy exert more energy in his celebration than in the actual fight itself is not excitment or frankly all that entertaining, to me at least. Trust me dude..I'm red, white & blue and would love the title back in the States but right now all I see is a guy waltzing to a title shot like he is driving thru Taco Bell ordering dinner, fast food and pre packaged. Next fight, maybe his next match will be a guy who doesn't read the script and is equally hungry.
    I'm not convinced either but this is a wave I/we have to ride! Right?
    I want Wilder to be the real deal but I'm prepared for whatever happens.

    My pulse went up some with Wilder's last win. If he wins again I might have to ask for stronger MEDS. Haha

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    Default Re: Is Deontay Wilder the real deal?

    No. Deontay is Michael Grant the LITE version.
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    Default Re: Is Deontay Wilder the real deal?

    [QUOTE=beenKOed;1231174]
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    we will see after next fight. if he can KO the winner of arreola/stiverne then i will say that he should be next in line to fight wlad.[/

    "After The Next Fight" should be Wilder's alias.
    true. maybe wlad will pull a scott and just fall over too and then we will still question him when he becomes the undisputed HW champ

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    I don't see Wlad fighting him at all. He'll retire before that happens. Wilder is taller and way stronger than he is. I sure Wlad has seen this fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2-UrjITaSc
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    Default Re: Is Deontay Wilder the real deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrbig1 View Post
    I don't see Wlad fighting him at all. He'll retire before that happens. Wilder is taller and way stronger than he is. I sure Wlad has seen this fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2-UrjITaSc
    EY??

    Wilder is taller AND lighter, a string bean with no legs, Wlad is far bigger and stronger than Wilder among everything else as well.

    Deontay stands F/A chance against Wladimir really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbig1 View Post
    I don't see Wlad fighting him at all. He'll retire before that happens. Wilder is taller and way stronger than he is. I sure Wlad has seen this fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2-UrjITaSc
    Wilder may be taller but he's not physically stronger than wlad .. wlad has grown into a real man over the years and has that man strength.. u look at him 10 years ago and his body wasnt as refined as it is today.

    Wlad may be timid mentally but im willing to bet that he is physically stronger that wilder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mrbig1 View Post
    I don't see Wlad fighting him at all. He'll retire before that happens. Wilder is taller and way stronger than he is. I sure Wlad has seen this fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2-UrjITaSc
    Wilder may be taller but he's not physically stronger than wlad .. wlad has grown into a real man over the years and has that man strength.. u look at him 10 years ago and his body wasnt as refined as it is today.

    Wlad may be timid mentally but im willing to bet that he is physically stronger that wilder.
    I've never seen Wlad go out of his way to take the tough fights. He can't keep Wilder off of him with his jab since Wilder is taller. He would be a fool to take this fight with his china chin.

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    Default Re: Is Deontay Wilder the real deal?

    I gotta withhold judgement until someone actually makes Deontay break into a sweat. If and when Wilder crushes someone worthy, who walks into the ring with unsoiled pants, and is there for more than just a quick paycheck...... THEN I would entertain thoughts of pairing him with Wlad.

    Of course, if Wlad were to see that, he might be inclined to join his brother in the political arena and enjoy early retirement from boxing.

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