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    Default Re: Boxers prime.

    Master, Iaminut & Spiccoli best define it for me. We just vary on the age.

    A man's prime IMO is age 25-35
    There has to be room for rookie years (20-25).
    By age 25, your mind, & body have peaked.

    The next question is how long does it last.

    Depends for boxers on 2 things.
    1 Fight style
    2. Life style.

    Punchers & Brawlers Fraziers, Tysons , Tuas: bangers usually have shorter primes, they take more poundings.

    Boxers- counterpunchers last longer because they take less punishment.

    Some fighters also lessen their prime by doing too much sparring & training.

    Wether it be basketball, football or baseball most athletes are done by 40. History bares witness.

    Hop & PBF don't drink and party in that sense, so that lenghtens a prime to as long as 40. & Forman retired for years, giving his body rest, so he never really had a prime- He was fat when he came back & knew who to fight and not too. And since power is the last thing to leave a boxer, Forman was good to go at 40 plus. Good thing Holyfield wasn't a muderous puncher- he could've hurt George.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Another good way of looking at things is if a 35 year old fighter would beat a 25 year old version of himself.

    How about Wlad...would the wlad of today beat a 30 year old version.

    Sometimes a fighter can still be in their prime but if they have won everything and beaten everyone the mental side overshadows the prime.
    Current Wlad would beat younger wlad even if younger Wlad could do more physically ie be stronger, faster, recover quicker because older Wlad has experience on his side and he would use that to beat a raw young Wlad who did not know how to protect his vulnerable chin. The same would go for older Lennox Lewis that beat Holyfield to the one that lost to McCall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Another good way of looking at things is if a 35 year old fighter would beat a 25 year old version of himself.

    How about Wlad...would the wlad of today beat a 30 year old version.

    Sometimes a fighter can still be in their prime but if they have won everything and beaten everyone the mental side overshadows the prime.
    Current Wlad would beat younger wlad even if younger Wlad could do more physically ie be stronger, faster, recover quicker because older Wlad has experience on his side and he would use that to beat a raw young Wlad who did not know how to protect his vulnerable chin. The same would go for older Lennox Lewis that beat Holyfield to the one that lost to McCall.
    Interesting to pit a fighter against himself at a different stage in their life.

    A seasoned Lewis would've killed the one that fought Frank Bruno- He didn't have the "master" teacher of the jab for tall fighters (M.Steward). He was very raw back then.

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    If we pit all the modern day fighters against themselves 5 years younger which one will loose to their younger self?!

    Experience plays a big part in the older prime version beating the younger prime version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    If we pit all the modern day fighters against themselves 5 years younger which one will loose to their younger self?!

    Experience plays a big part in the older prime version beating the younger prime version.
    I think younger Foreman that beat Frazier smashes old Foreman that beat Moorer
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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    If we pit all the modern day fighters against themselves 5 years younger which one will loose to their younger self?!

    Experience plays a big part in the older prime version beating the younger prime version.
    1988 Tyson makes 1998 Tyson quit...like a bitch.

    early 90's Michael Moorer vs late 90's Moorer (double KO!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    If we pit all the modern day fighters against themselves 5 years younger which one will loose to their younger self?!

    Experience plays a big part in the older prime version beating the younger prime version.
    1988 Tyson makes 1998 Tyson quit...like a bitch.

    early 90's Michael Moorer vs late 90's Moorer (double KO!)
    I hate Moorer for losing to George, he threw that fight away. That chin was made in china.
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    Its true.

    Older tyson will never beat a younger tyson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Its true.

    Older tyson will never beat a younger tyson.
    After defeating Berbick and becoming the youngest heavyweight champion of the world:

    “This is the moment I waited for all my life since I started boxing…Berbick was very strong…I never expected him to be as strong as me…every punch I threw with bad intentions to a vital area…I aimed for his ear…I wanted to bust his eardrum…Every punch had bad intentions…My record will last for immortality, it’ll never be broken…I want to live forever…I refuse to lose…I would have had to be carried out dead to lose…I was coming to destroy and win the Heavyweight Championship of the World, which I done…I’d like to dedicate my fight to my great guardian, Cus D’Amato. I’m sure he’s up there and he’s looking down and he’s talking to all the great fighters and he’s saying his boy did it…I thought he was a crazy white dude…he was a genius…everything he said would happen happened.”
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