Bob Foster ~ "I Wanted Cassius Clay In 1968"

[Master]

Not True,

Don't judge the American Intelligence on the basis of Cassius Clay's lack
of knowledge on the Geographical Aspects on country locations.

When told that he would be going to Rome, Italy for the 1960 Olympics,
Cassius asked;

"Does the Bus make many stops along the way."

True Story...

Americans are insular and think the world revolves around them. Ali is a product of that.

[TitoFan]

Now I know the old man's full of shit.

Ali's well-known line about not going to Vietnam was about the Vietcong never calling him "nigger".

... and regarding his quip about Rome.... now Ali can't even make a joke?

I knew you were going over the top with some of those "supposed" quotes, Billy.
But now I see you're willfully taking them out of context.

Tsk, tsk......

[Bill Paxtom]

TitoFan,

Just how many Vietcong did Cassius meet in Miami Beach.

I'll answer that.............. 'NONE'

If he gave them a chance, I'm sure they would have called him a N****R.

Instead, they called him 'A COWARD'

True Story

[Primo Carnera]

Hey Bill , I met Ali yesterday, and he gave me a bag of sweets that he said he took off you nearly 50 years ago. He said he was feeling a bit guilty, because it was only meant to be a joke , but you ran away so quickly , screaming and bawling that he couldn't let you have them back .
He asked if I could pass them on to you, so if you send me a forwarding address , I'll get them posted to you.
Hopefully , then finally you will have closure on your hatred of Ali, and also have the comfort that albeit you were Shitting yourself, you also outsprinted the Greatest!

[Primo Carnera]

oh yeah!
True story.....

[Bill Paxtom]

I don't believe it Primo.

Cassius was a 'true' coward.

You know it, I know it, and the 'World' knows it.

[Primo Carnera]

I don't believe it Primo.

Cassius was a 'true' coward.

You know it, I know it, and the 'World' knows it.

Bill, What don't you believe? that after all these years he still had your bag of sweets? or that after all these years he still remembered you? honestly , he gave me them back to post to you.
Taking this into consideration, I think the dignified thing to do is to let it go . He's a frail old man, and hatred is a very energy sapping emotion. What purpose can you achieve by continuing to hate?
Let it go Man.
Now, Breathe and repeat after me , "out with anger, in with love!" you can do it Bill, LET IT GO!
trust me , you'll feel an overwhelming surge of energy and zest for life, Hell , who knows, the Wife might even be in for a good time for a change!!!!

[Bill Paxtom]

Primo

I don't 'hate' anyone.

I always thought that Cassius was an excellent 'boxer, and a very good fighter.

But I consider him as more of an 'entertainer'.

[Primo Carnera]

Primo

I don't 'hate' anyone.

I always thought that Cassius was an excellent 'boxer, and a very good fighter.

But I consider him as more of an 'entertainer'.

Hang on, you've tried to find or make up as many examples of Ali's alleged stupidity and cowardice as you possibly could and you're kidding yourself that you don't hate him.
And now he's "an excellent 'boxer, and a very good fighter." Yet you're convinced that about 10 different fighters would've made mincemeat out of him. (most of them he beat anyway!!!)
Bill, I'm sure in your own little mind you believe that you are being deep and spiritual or that you are winding everyone up, but in reality, you're only winding yourself up because nobody is taking you seriously. I'm the only one humouring you.
what's next ? a Character assassination of Shirley Temple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bill Paxtom]

Hey,

That's Cheating.

Shirley Temple 'Black'

Cassius Clay could be a great entertainer, an excellent boxer and a very good fighter
while being a 'rat bastard' as well.

You know, Adolf Hitler did some great things too.

[SlimTrae]

thx master..one heckuva' thread!


Props 2 ya Mr. Paxton for standing your ground.

I think it was Carl Williams? who said something similar about Tyson.
Mike stated they sparred. I was a kid, he was a grown man.
It seemed that Ali's fight with Foster turned out the same as Tyson when he fought williams both as men.
imo
..
A coward doesn't stand up to a government that allowed Jim crow laws to exist.
A nation that prosecuted no white men who proudly took photos with their lynched victims. Need photo proof?

A nation whose preachers..didnt stand up when black girls were bombed in a church in Alabama, and not by a jihadist movement or by muslims. these were christians
this is why Ali is known the world over from the Philippines to Africa.

Bar the conquistadors who forced christianity... and you will know much of the world are muslims.
hate it if need, but where does Ali go.... and isn't loved?
called a hero for standing up to a nation that passed an act excluding Asian immigration.
half century later was forced to allow blacks to vote A year after...clay won the title.

sorry to go historical on a boxing thread, but you invited me to respond... cause u took it there.
slimtrae KO round one.

[Bill Paxtom]

Cassius Clay

Stood for nothing, other than to help himself.

When that Church in Birmingham, Alabama was 'torched' on September 15, 1963
and those little girls died.

It was Sonny Liston who left his Boxing Tour in England to come home and protest.

Cassius Clay, well he was in Hollywood trying to better himself in signing a movie deal
with 'white' Movie Producers. The 'Scum Bag' Clay made no effort to try and go to
Birmingham, Alabama or even voice his grief over the horrible fire-bombing and death of
'4' little girls.

The 'scum bag' said not a peep about the situation.

'Scum Bag' Clay.

[Primo Carnera]

Cassius Clay

Stood for nothing, other than to help himself.

When that Church in Birmingham, Alabama was 'torched' on September 15, 1963
and those little girls died.






It was Sonny Liston who left his Boxing Tour in England to come


home and protest.

Cassius Clay, well he was in Hollywood trying to better himself in signing a movie deal



with 'white' Movie Producers. The 'Scum Bag' Clay made no effort to try and go to





Birmingham, Alabama or even voice his grief over the horrible fire-bombing and death of



'4' little girls.

The 'scum bag' said not a peep about the situation.




'Scum Bag' Clay.

And are you still trying to convince everybody that you "Don't Hate Clay"?
You really need to get over this , it's consuming your life . You may not see it , but everybody else does. LET IT GO! You'll feel a better human being for it.
I've got the number of a good Psychiatrist if you need it.

[Bill Paxtom]

Primo,

There are many 'Scum Bags' that are talented individuals.

Adrian Peterson can run very well on the Football Field, but would
you let him watch your kids.

Bill Clinton was a fantastic politician, but would you let your teenage
daughter work as an intern for him.

You see,

[Primo Carnera]

Primo

I don't 'hate' anyone.

I always thought that Cassius was an excellent 'boxer, and a very good fighter.

But I consider him as more of an 'entertainer'.

"Cassius was a 'true' coward"
"Cassius Clay could be a great entertainer, an excellent boxer and a very good fighter
while being a 'rat bastard' as well.

You know, Adolf Hitler did some great things too. "

"Cassius Clay Stood for nothing, other than to help himself."

"The 'scum bag' said not a peep about the situation. 'Scum Bag' Clay."



Billy Boy , these were your words above. Now if you're trying to convince people you don't hate Ali, you're not doing a very good job of it.
BTW , tell me the "Great Things Hitler did" ?