Froch vacates IBF title, Degale fights for vacant belt April 25th

[Tam Seddon]

He wants to fight a 50-year-old who is coming off getting a hiding, the same bloke he rubbished Calzaghe for fighting a hundred years ago.

Shit matchup. Good press conferences/build up. Shit fight. Be hilarious if Hopkins fiddled his way to a decision.

B Hop is far more deserving than shitty Chavez Jnr. That fight won't happen with Froch anyway,because Fonfara is going to beat his ass. The only way I see Chavez Jnr winning is by a robbery, and you can probably see that happening as well.

IF Froch has an elbow injury and has had it for a while, how can he even think about fights with Hopkins or Chavez? the Elbow injury needs to be cleared up surely? btw, it's not about whether Bhop is deserving of Froch, it's the other way round!

Because he's having the time out now so he will be ready for the summer. Froch is the champion and Hopkins is moving down I'm weight so I think it's Hopkins who needs froch

[Primo Carnera]

He wants to fight a 50-year-old who is coming off getting a hiding, the same bloke he rubbished Calzaghe for fighting a hundred years ago.

Shit matchup. Good press conferences/build up. Shit fight. Be hilarious if Hopkins fiddled his way to a decision.

B Hop is far more deserving than shitty Chavez Jnr. That fight won't happen with Froch anyway,because Fonfara is going to beat his ass. The only way I see Chavez Jnr winning is by a robbery, and you can probably see that happening as well.

IF Froch has an elbow injury and has had it for a while, how can he even think about fights with Hopkins or Chavez? the Elbow injury needs to be cleared up surely? btw, it's not about whether Bhop is deserving of Froch, it's the other way round!

Because he's having the time out now so he will be ready for the summer. Froch is the champion and Hopkins is moving down I'm weight so I think it's Hopkins who needs froch

He's been having time out since last May! and if it's an old injury , why is it only now that it's a problem? I know you're a big fan of his and will defend him , and I'm not looking to wind you up for the sake of it, but I just think a few people are being economical with the truth here. It's not the crime of the century and everyone does it, but let's call a spade a spade here.

[Tam Seddon]

He wants to fight a 50-year-old who is coming off getting a hiding, the same bloke he rubbished Calzaghe for fighting a hundred years ago.

Shit matchup. Good press conferences/build up. Shit fight. Be hilarious if Hopkins fiddled his way to a decision.

B Hop is far more deserving than shitty Chavez Jnr. That fight won't happen with Froch anyway,because Fonfara is going to beat his ass. The only way I see Chavez Jnr winning is by a robbery, and you can probably see that happening as well.

IF Froch has an elbow injury and has had it for a while, how can he even think about fights with Hopkins or Chavez? the Elbow injury needs to be cleared up surely? btw, it's not about whether Bhop is deserving of Froch, it's the other way round!

Because he's having the time out now so he will be ready for the summer. Froch is the champion and Hopkins is moving down I'm weight so I think it's Hopkins who needs froch

He's been having time out since last May! and if it's an old injury , why is it only now that it's a problem? I know you're a big fan of his and will defend him , and I'm not looking to wind you up for the sake of it, but I just think a few people are being economical with the truth here. It's not the crime of the century and everyone does it, but let's call a spade a spade here.

Is been effecting him for a while and he went back to training and it didn't feel right so he's having the surgery to sort it out. Maybe he thought having that time off would help but it clearly didn't.

[AdamGB]

He wants to fight a 50-year-old who is coming off getting a hiding, the same bloke he rubbished Calzaghe for fighting a hundred years ago.

Shit matchup. Good press conferences/build up. Shit fight. Be hilarious if Hopkins fiddled his way to a decision.

This is why Froch loses a lot of fans, arrogance, self delusion and a short memory.Yes it was 7 years ago now, but back in 2008 he said about Calzaghe

""He fought Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr but he has forgotten that Hopkins is 43 and well, well past his best"

If Calzaghe can say that Jones Jr. is shot and then hype up a fight with him years later then I think Froch can get away with saying that...

[ono]

He wants to fight a 50-year-old who is coming off getting a hiding, the same bloke he rubbished Calzaghe for fighting a hundred years ago.

Shit matchup. Good press conferences/build up. Shit fight. Be hilarious if Hopkins fiddled his way to a decision.

B Hop is far more deserving than shitty Chavez Jnr. That fight won't happen with Froch anyway,because Fonfara is going to beat his ass. The only way I see Chavez Jnr winning is by a robbery, and you can probably see that happening as well.

IF Froch has an elbow injury and has had it for a while, how can he even think about fights with Hopkins or Chavez? the Elbow injury needs to be cleared up surely? btw, it's not about whether Bhop is deserving of Froch, it's the other way round!

After touring the world for the last 6 or 7 years fighting the best in the division on a continous basis, Froch has more thaN earned his shot at whoever he wants

[GAME]

Froch has no doubt earned his shot to fight whoever he wants after years of fighting the best back to back. His spot in history secure and he deserves all the respect he gets

At the same time he is no longer the fearless, take on all comers warrior once was, he is looking to cash out & who can blame him but the fighter is gone. What remains is a guy who wants high reward low risk and joins most other top fighters at the moment who have that ethic

Thanks for the memories carl

[Master]

Froch has no doubt earned his shot to fight whoever he wants after years of fighting the best back to back. His spot in history secure and he deserves all the respect he gets

At the same time he is no longer the fearless, take on all comers warrior once was, he is looking to cash out & who can blame him but the fighter is gone. What remains is a guy who wants high reward low risk and joins most other top fighters at the moment who have that ethic

Thanks for the memories carl

You are writing as if this the end of Froch. He still has a couple of more years in him.

[Primo Carnera]

He wants to fight a 50-year-old who is coming off getting a hiding, the same bloke he rubbished Calzaghe for fighting a hundred years ago.

Shit matchup. Good press conferences/build up. Shit fight. Be hilarious if Hopkins fiddled his way to a decision.

B Hop is far more deserving than shitty Chavez Jnr. That fight won't happen with Froch anyway,because Fonfara is going to beat his ass. The only way I see Chavez Jnr winning is by a robbery, and you can probably see that happening as well.

IF Froch has an elbow injury and has had it for a while, how can he even think about fights with Hopkins or Chavez? the Elbow injury needs to be cleared up surely? btw, it's not about whether Bhop is deserving of Froch, it's the other way round!

After touring the world for the last 6 or 7 years fighting the best in the division on a continous basis, Froch has more thaN earned his shot at whoever he wants

Right, let's dispel this "regularly fighting the best in the division for the last 6 or 7 years " myth forever. His record over recent years is as follows working backwards:
George Groves (twice)
Now I like Groves and I think he can become a champion, but it doesn't matter what I think , he hasn't PROVEN anything yet. He has never beaten a top 10 fighter in this division.
Kessler
Another fighter I like , but he was Washed up, past his sell by and that is proved because he has never fought since and is now retired.
Mack
Who? Wtf has he done before or since?
Bute
Because he wasn't in the super six, we didn't know if he was the real deal or not. That night in Nottingham proved that he wasn't! He was like a rabbit in headlights and done fuck all since.
Then there was the super 6! Yes, he took on the top guys, but that was the whole point of the tournament. THEY ALL DID! And yes, he got to the final......but only because Kessler got injured.
Ward
Completely schooled.
Johnson
40 years old, say no more. Too close for comfort and a "novice" Groves won every round against Johnson 12 months after.
Abraham
Blown up MW that has never carried that power up to SMW.
Kessler
Well beaten.
Dirrell
Many thought Dirrell was hard done by in Froch's backyard
Taylor
Another Blown up MW , who let's not forget was 14 seconds away from beating him . However, credit where credit's due, he won and that's that! (Still a blown up MW though.)
Pascal
I'm gonna try not to rubbish this one because Pascal was 21-0 at the time, and he has since gone on to have a very decent career at a heavier weight. However, he hadn't beaten anyone of note up to then and was fighting in Froch's backyard.
Froch is ok, but like with Khan and now even Fury, Brits do overhype them a bit.
Finally, what's all this "he's earned the right to fight who he wants, when he wants, where he wants?" Actually, he hasn't . The Americans aren't interested in him topping the bill at Vegas, that's why he needs Chavez, because for some reason unknown to me, Chavez is PPV fighter worthy of topping the bill at Vegas! That fight couldn't be made , hence no Vegas!
Funny really, if he wants to cement his "Legacy" and fight in Vegas, there is another fighter that fits the bill, and he's available........... His name is Andre Ward. Nah, thought not!

[Tam Seddon]

He wants to fight a 50-year-old who is coming off getting a hiding, the same bloke he rubbished Calzaghe for fighting a hundred years ago.

Shit matchup. Good press conferences/build up. Shit fight. Be hilarious if Hopkins fiddled his way to a decision.

B Hop is far more deserving than shitty Chavez Jnr. That fight won't happen with Froch anyway,because Fonfara is going to beat his ass. The only way I see Chavez Jnr winning is by a robbery, and you can probably see that happening as well.

IF Froch has an elbow injury and has had it for a while, how can he even think about fights with Hopkins or Chavez? the Elbow injury needs to be cleared up surely? btw, it's not about whether Bhop is deserving of Froch, it's the other way round!

After touring the world for the last 6 or 7 years fighting the best in the division on a continous basis, Froch has more thaN earned his shot at whoever he wants

Right, let's dispel this "regularly fighting the best in the division for the last 6 or 7 years " myth forever. His record over recent years is as follows working backwards:
George Groves (twice)
Now I like Groves and I think he can become a champion, but it doesn't matter what I think , he hasn't PROVEN anything yet. He has never beaten a top 10 fighter in this division.
Kessler
Another fighter I like , but he was Washed up, past his sell by and that is proved because he has never fought since and is now retired.
Mack
Who? Wtf has he done before or since?
Bute
Because he wasn't in the super six, we didn't know if he was the real deal or not. That night in Nottingham proved that he wasn't! He was like a rabbit in headlights and done fuck all since.
Then there was the super 6! Yes, he took on the top guys, but that was the whole point of the tournament. THEY ALL DID! And yes, he got to the final......but only because Kessler got injured.
Ward
Completely schooled.
Johnson
40 years old, say no more. Too close for comfort and a "novice" Groves won every round against Johnson 12 months after.
Abraham
Blown up MW that has never carried that power up to SMW.
Kessler
Well beaten.
Dirrell
Many thought Dirrell was hard done by in Froch's backyard
Taylor
Another Blown up MW , who let's not forget was 14 seconds away from beating him . However, credit where credit's due, he won and that's that! (Still a blown up MW though.)
Pascal
I'm gonna try not to rubbish this one because Pascal was 21-0 at the time, and he has since gone on to have a very decent career at a heavier weight. However, he hadn't beaten anyone of note up to then and was fighting in Froch's backyard.
Froch is ok, but like with Khan and now even Fury, Brits do overhype them a bit.
Finally, what's all this "he's earned the right to fight who he wants, when he wants, where he wants?" Actually, he hasn't . The Americans aren't interested in him topping the bill at Vegas, that's why he needs Chavez, because for some reason unknown to me, Chavez is PPV fighter worthy of topping the bill at Vegas! That fight couldn't be made , hence no Vegas!
Funny really, if he wants to cement his "Legacy" and fight in Vegas, there is another fighter that fits the bill, and he's available........... His name is Andre Ward. Nah, thought not!

Well who else could he have fought at these times? These were the best fighters in the weight class

[Primo Carnera]

Mack wasn't the best in the division , Groves wasn't the best in the division, admittedly with hindsight Bute wasn't the best in the division. But my point is that it hasn't been top fighter after top fighter, apart from the super 6, and that was the same for all of them. And I repeat, if it's about fighting the best in the division, then it's Andre Ward. With Ward's inactivity, it mightn't be a bad time to fight him. One thing's for sure, it ain't Chavez.
Ps. Good luck Saturday mate.

[Tam Seddon]

Mack wasn't the best in the division , Groves wasn't the best in the division, admittedly with hindsight Bute wasn't the best in the division. But my point is that it hasn't been top fighter after top fighter, apart from the super 6, and that was the same for all of them. And I repeat, if it's about fighting the best in the division, then it's Andre Ward. With Ward's inactivity, it mightn't be a bad time to fight him. One thing's for sure, it ain't Chavez.
Ps. Good luck Saturday mate.

Mack was an easier fight after hard fight after hard fight for Froch. Groves was undefeated and he beat Degale, he's a decent rated fighter. The rematch went on to be the biggest fight in the UK since world war 2, so it must have been pretty big to sell out wembley . Bute was an undefeated champion, who was the favourite going into the fight and got destroyed in five rounds. Froch might have lost against Ward but he gave Ward all he could handle at the end. He's done a lot better than anybody really against him.

Nice one

[erics44]

He wants to fight a 50-year-old who is coming off getting a hiding, the same bloke he rubbished Calzaghe for fighting a hundred years ago.

Shit matchup. Good press conferences/build up. Shit fight. Be hilarious if Hopkins fiddled his way to a decision.

B Hop is far more deserving than shitty Chavez Jnr. That fight won't happen with Froch anyway,because Fonfara is going to beat his ass. The only way I see Chavez Jnr winning is by a robbery, and you can probably see that happening as well.

IF Froch has an elbow injury and has had it for a while, how can he even think about fights with Hopkins or Chavez? the Elbow injury needs to be cleared up surely? btw, it's not about whether Bhop is deserving of Froch, it's the other way round!

After touring the world for the last 6 or 7 years fighting the best in the division on a continous basis, Froch has more thaN earned his shot at whoever he wants

Right, let's dispel this "regularly fighting the best in the division for the last 6 or 7 years " myth forever. His record over recent years is as follows working backwards:
George Groves (twice)
Now I like Groves and I think he can become a champion, but it doesn't matter what I think , he hasn't PROVEN anything yet. He has never beaten a top 10 fighter in this division.
Kessler
Another fighter I like , but he was Washed up, past his sell by and that is proved because he has never fought since and is now retired.
Mack
Who? Wtf has he done before or since?
Bute
Because he wasn't in the super six, we didn't know if he was the real deal or not. That night in Nottingham proved that he wasn't! He was like a rabbit in headlights and done fuck all since.
Then there was the super 6! Yes, he took on the top guys, but that was the whole point of the tournament. THEY ALL DID! And yes, he got to the final......but only because Kessler got injured.
Ward
Completely schooled.
Johnson
40 years old, say no more. Too close for comfort and a "novice" Groves won every round against Johnson 12 months after.
Abraham
Blown up MW that has never carried that power up to SMW.
Kessler
Well beaten.
Dirrell
Many thought Dirrell was hard done by in Froch's backyard
Taylor
Another Blown up MW , who let's not forget was 14 seconds away from beating him . However, credit where credit's due, he won and that's that! (Still a blown up MW though.)
Pascal
I'm gonna try not to rubbish this one because Pascal was 21-0 at the time, and he has since gone on to have a very decent career at a heavier weight. However, he hadn't beaten anyone of note up to then and was fighting in Froch's backyard.
Froch is ok, but like with Khan and now even Fury, Brits do overhype them a bit.
Finally, what's all this "he's earned the right to fight who he wants, when he wants, where he wants?" Actually, he hasn't . The Americans aren't interested in him topping the bill at Vegas, that's why he needs Chavez, because for some reason unknown to me, Chavez is PPV fighter worthy of topping the bill at Vegas! That fight couldn't be made , hence no Vegas!
Funny really, if he wants to cement his "Legacy" and fight in Vegas, there is another fighter that fits the bill, and he's available........... His name is Andre Ward. Nah, thought not!

hmmmmm, you know, if someone was to ask me if eggy Primo was a fan of Froch id probably guess he wasnt

and if someone then asked me whether i thought his opinion on Carl Frochs carear was completely impartial and fair and had no bias, id probably say no it wasnt, it isnt and it hasnt

[Primo Carnera]

He wants to fight a 50-year-old who is coming off getting a hiding, the same bloke he rubbished Calzaghe for fighting a hundred years ago.

Shit matchup. Good press conferences/build up. Shit fight. Be hilarious if Hopkins fiddled his way to a decision.

B Hop is far more deserving than shitty Chavez Jnr. That fight won't happen with Froch anyway,because Fonfara is going to beat his ass. The only way I see Chavez Jnr winning is by a robbery, and you can probably see that happening as well.

IF Froch has an elbow injury and has had it for a while, how can he even think about fights with Hopkins or Chavez? the Elbow injury needs to be cleared up surely? btw, it's not about whether Bhop is deserving of Froch, it's the other way round!

After touring the world for the last 6 or 7 years fighting the best in the division on a continous basis, Froch has more thaN earned his shot at whoever he wants

Right, let's dispel this "regularly fighting the best in the division for the last 6 or 7 years " myth forever. His record over recent years is as follows working backwards:
George Groves (twice)
Now I like Groves and I think he can become a champion, but it doesn't matter what I think , he hasn't PROVEN anything yet. He has never beaten a top 10 fighter in this division.
Kessler
Another fighter I like , but he was Washed up, past his sell by and that is proved because he has never fought since and is now retired.
Mack
Who? Wtf has he done before or since?
Bute
Because he wasn't in the super six, we didn't know if he was the real deal or not. That night in Nottingham proved that he wasn't! He was like a rabbit in headlights and done fuck all since.
Then there was the super 6! Yes, he took on the top guys, but that was the whole point of the tournament. THEY ALL DID! And yes, he got to the final......but only because Kessler got injured.
Ward
Completely schooled.
Johnson
40 years old, say no more. Too close for comfort and a "novice" Groves won every round against Johnson 12 months after.
Abraham
Blown up MW that has never carried that power up to SMW.
Kessler
Well beaten.
Dirrell
Many thought Dirrell was hard done by in Froch's backyard
Taylor
Another Blown up MW , who let's not forget was 14 seconds away from beating him . However, credit where credit's due, he won and that's that! (Still a blown up MW though.)
Pascal
I'm gonna try not to rubbish this one because Pascal was 21-0 at the time, and he has since gone on to have a very decent career at a heavier weight. However, he hadn't beaten anyone of note up to then and was fighting in Froch's backyard.
Froch is ok, but like with Khan and now even Fury, Brits do overhype them a bit.
Finally, what's all this "he's earned the right to fight who he wants, when he wants, where he wants?" Actually, he hasn't . The Americans aren't interested in him topping the bill at Vegas, that's why he needs Chavez, because for some reason unknown to me, Chavez is PPV fighter worthy of topping the bill at Vegas! That fight couldn't be made , hence no Vegas!
Funny really, if he wants to cement his "Legacy" and fight in Vegas, there is another fighter that fits the bill, and he's available........... His name is Andre Ward. Nah, thought not!

hmmmmm, you know, if someone was to ask me if eggy Primo was a fan of Froch id probably guess he wasnt

and if someone then asked me whether i thought his opinion on Carl Frochs carear was completely impartial and fair and had no bias, id probably say no it wasnt, it isnt and it hasnt

hmmmmmmmmmmm, you know, that's funny, because nobody did ask you.

[GAME]

Froch has no doubt earned his shot to fight whoever he wants after years of fighting the best back to back. His spot in history secure and he deserves all the respect he gets

At the same time he is no longer the fearless, take on all comers warrior once was, he is looking to cash out & who can blame him but the fighter is gone. What remains is a guy who wants high reward low risk and joins most other top fighters at the moment who have that ethic

Thanks for the memories carl

You are writing as if this the end of Froch. He still has a couple of more years in him.

In terms of fighting the best this is the end of him. It sounds like he wants to cherry pick for the rest of his career but hope he proves me wrong