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    Default Re: Who is the best modern fighter never to win a world title?

    My old buddy from Texas Ike The President Ibeabuchi.
    If Ike hadn't called that lying hooker in Vegas You'd have long forgotten the Klitschkos
    He was the natural successor to Lennox Lewis
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    Quote Originally Posted by C.J.Rock View Post
    My old buddy from Texas Ike The President Ibeabuchi.
    If Ike hadn't called that lying hooker in Vegas You'd have long forgotten the Klitschkos
    He was the natural successor to Lennox Lewis
    You are forgetting the fact he had severe mental health difficulties which would have got in the way of him becoming and certainly staying champion for any long period of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C.J.Rock View Post
    My old buddy from Texas Ike The President Ibeabuchi.
    If Ike hadn't called that lying hooker in Vegas You'd have long forgotten the Klitschkos
    He was the natural successor to Lennox Lewis
    You are forgetting the fact he had severe mental health difficulties which would have got in the way of him becoming and certainly staying champion for any long period of time.
    Right again!!

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    Default Re: Who is the best modern fighter never to win a world title?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Micheal Watson.
    I have to agree with this - Micheal Watson - People who say Bomber Graham should ask themselves this question :

    Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?

    Herol Graham ? Vinny Pazienza...probably
    Micheal Watson ? Nigel Benn........nuff said really

    Not to mention Watson won the first fight against Eubank (Yes I know the records books show Eubank got the UD but Eubank got a few dodgy decisons back then) and, watson, well, beat the crap out of Eubank for 11 rounds in the second fight but of course what happened, sadly happened.

    Everytime Herol Graham stepped to the highest level, his style was exposed. Prince Naz had a similar style but his power covered up a lot of cracks and even when he stepped up to the very highest level, he too was exposed. Unlike Naz, Graham did not a KO power, to get him out of trouble, nor did he have a style that would go down well with judges and fans, which is maybe why he never got into the Eubank, Benn, Watson and later Collins mix.

    But for me - Watson is the clear winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Micheal Watson.
    I have to agree with this - Micheal Watson - People who say Bomber Graham should ask themselves this question :

    Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?

    Herol Graham ? Vinny Pazienza...probably
    Micheal Watson ? Nigel Benn........nuff said really

    Not to mention Watson won the first fight against Eubank (Yes I know the records books show Eubank got the UD but Eubank got a few dodgy decisons back then) and, watson, well, beat the crap out of Eubank for 11 rounds in the second fight but of course what happened, sadly happened.

    Everytime Herol Graham stepped to the highest level, his style was exposed. Prince Naz had a similar style but his power covered up a lot of cracks and even when he stepped up to the very highest level, he too was exposed. Unlike Naz, Graham did not a KO power, to get him out of trouble, nor did he have a style that would go down well with judges and fans, which is maybe why he never got into the Eubank, Benn, Watson and later Collins mix.

    But for me - Watson is the clear winner.
    You are so wrong that I feel embarrassed for you.

    The best fighter Graham fought was Mike McCallum who he lost a tight split decision when he was unfairly deducted a point by the referee.

    This is the same Mike McCallum who later when on to stop Michael Watson in 11 rounds.

    None of the 3 English fighters Eubank, Benn and Watson wanted anything to do with Bomber. This is why he fought the top fighters around the world for his title shots.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.J.Rock View Post
    My old buddy from Texas Ike The President Ibeabuchi.
    If Ike hadn't called that lying hooker in Vegas You'd have long forgotten the Klitschkos
    He was the natural successor to Lennox Lewis
    Lying hooker. Apposed to what? Honorable hooker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Micheal Watson.
    I have to agree with this - Micheal Watson - People who say Bomber Graham should ask themselves this question :

    Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?

    Herol Graham ? Vinny Pazienza...probably
    Micheal Watson ? Nigel Benn........nuff said really

    Not to mention Watson won the first fight against Eubank (Yes I know the records books show Eubank got the UD but Eubank got a few dodgy decisons back then) and, watson, well, beat the crap out of Eubank for 11 rounds in the second fight but of course what happened, sadly happened.

    Everytime Herol Graham stepped to the highest level, his style was exposed. Prince Naz had a similar style but his power covered up a lot of cracks and even when he stepped up to the very highest level, he too was exposed. Unlike Naz, Graham did not a KO power, to get him out of trouble, nor did he have a style that would go down well with judges and fans, which is maybe why he never got into the Eubank, Benn, Watson and later Collins mix.

    But for me - Watson is the clear winner.
    You are so wrong that I feel embarrassed for you.

    The best fighter Graham fought was Mike McCallum who he lost a tight split decision when he was unfairly deducted a point by the referee.

    This is the same Mike McCallum who later when on to stop Michael Watson in 11 rounds.

    None of the 3 English fighters Eubank, Benn and Watson wanted anything to do with Bomber. This is why he fought the top fighters around the world for his title shots.
    You need to improve your reading skills

    I said "Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?"

    Not fought....beat

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    Default Re: Who is the best modern fighter never to win a world title?

    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Micheal Watson.
    I have to agree with this - Micheal Watson - People who say Bomber Graham should ask themselves this question :

    Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?

    Herol Graham ? Vinny Pazienza...probably
    Micheal Watson ? Nigel Benn........nuff said really

    Not to mention Watson won the first fight against Eubank (Yes I know the records books show Eubank got the UD but Eubank got a few dodgy decisons back then) and, watson, well, beat the crap out of Eubank for 11 rounds in the second fight but of course what happened, sadly happened.

    Everytime Herol Graham stepped to the highest level, his style was exposed. Prince Naz had a similar style but his power covered up a lot of cracks and even when he stepped up to the very highest level, he too was exposed. Unlike Naz, Graham did not a KO power, to get him out of trouble, nor did he have a style that would go down well with judges and fans, which is maybe why he never got into the Eubank, Benn, Watson and later Collins mix.

    But for me - Watson is the clear winner.
    You are so wrong that I feel embarrassed for you.

    The best fighter Graham fought was Mike McCallum who he lost a tight split decision when he was unfairly deducted a point by the referee.

    This is the same Mike McCallum who later when on to stop Michael Watson in 11 rounds.

    None of the 3 English fighters Eubank, Benn and Watson wanted anything to do with Bomber. This is why he fought the top fighters around the world for his title shots.
    You need to improve your reading skills

    I said "Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?"

    Not fought....beat
    Bigger difference and more meaningful is the fighters they fought.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Micheal Watson.
    I have to agree with this - Micheal Watson - People who say Bomber Graham should ask themselves this question :

    Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?

    Herol Graham ? Vinny Pazienza...probably
    Micheal Watson ? Nigel Benn........nuff said really

    Not to mention Watson won the first fight against Eubank (Yes I know the records books show Eubank got the UD but Eubank got a few dodgy decisons back then) and, watson, well, beat the crap out of Eubank for 11 rounds in the second fight but of course what happened, sadly happened.

    Everytime Herol Graham stepped to the highest level, his style was exposed. Prince Naz had a similar style but his power covered up a lot of cracks and even when he stepped up to the very highest level, he too was exposed. Unlike Naz, Graham did not a KO power, to get him out of trouble, nor did he have a style that would go down well with judges and fans, which is maybe why he never got into the Eubank, Benn, Watson and later Collins mix.

    But for me - Watson is the clear winner.
    You are so wrong that I feel embarrassed for you.

    The best fighter Graham fought was Mike McCallum who he lost a tight split decision when he was unfairly deducted a point by the referee.

    This is the same Mike McCallum who later when on to stop Michael Watson in 11 rounds.

    None of the 3 English fighters Eubank, Benn and Watson wanted anything to do with Bomber. This is why he fought the top fighters around the world for his title shots.
    You need to improve your reading skills

    I said "Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?"

    Not fought....beat
    Bigger difference and more meaningful is the fighters they fought.
    Not really. Technically speaking I could fight Deontay Wilder, Klitschko and Anthony Joshua but that does not mean I'm on that level as they would all wipe the floor with me and I would have no chance of beating them. I think it's more about who a fighter beats not who they fought.

    But anyway I just think Micheal Watson was a much better fighter than Herol Graham, but that's just my opinion and if someone thinks Graham was a better fighter than Watson, then fair enough.

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