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    Default Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Was it the Hammer, Butler?

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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Ike Ibeabuchi, he was a title holder when he got in trouble....he at the very least had fights vs Lewis and Holyfield ahead of him, maybe Tyson as well, who knows.

    Johnny Tapia I mean how could he NOT be listed here?

    'Kid Dynamite' Danny Romero is another than never reached his potential

    Kelly Pavlik, alcohol abuse did a number on him

    Meldrick Taylor, super slick boxer but just CHOSE to go to war, really hurt his career.

    Any number of drugged out wash-ups especially heavyweights of the late 80's early 90's

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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Don't forget Tony Ayala Jr. Once proclaimed by Angelo Dundee as the greatest prospect he's ever seen, Tony was a heroin addict and overall scumbag who got thrown in jail for raping a girl, squashing the possibility of a showdown with the great Roberto Duran.
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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Hector 'Macho' Camacho

    Though he had a great career, he was 'self-destructive' for several periods during
    his prime.


    Thad 'Babe' Spencer

    Nobody had more 'natural' talent than Thad in the Heavyweight Division from
    1964 thru 1967. 'Nose-Candy' did him in, along with cockiness.

    If he only had his head screwed on right, and listened to his good friend Eddie Machen
    and Manager - Willie Ketchum, he would have been a World Champion.

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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Hector 'Macho' Camacho

    Though he had a great career, he was 'self-destructive' for several periods during
    his prime.


    Thad 'Babe' Spencer

    Nobody had more 'natural' talent than Thad in the Heavyweight Division from
    1964 thru 1967. 'Nose-Candy' did him in, along with cockiness.

    If he only had his head screwed on right, and listened to his good friend Eddie Machen
    and Manager - Willie Ketchum, he would have been a World Champion.
    You forgot Muhammad Ali. By being a draft-dodging coward he gave up his prime years!
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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Kevin Mitchell screws up fabulously and spectacularly.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Hector 'Macho' Camacho

    Though he had a great career, he was 'self-destructive' for several periods during
    his prime.


    Thad 'Babe' Spencer

    Nobody had more 'natural' talent than Thad in the Heavyweight Division from
    1964 thru 1967. 'Nose-Candy' did him in, along with cockiness.

    If he only had his head screwed on right, and listened to his good friend Eddie Machen
    and Manager - Willie Ketchum, he would have been a World Champion.
    You forgot Muhammad Ali. By being a draft-dodging coward he gave up his prime years!
    True,

    That cowardice that Cassius displayed was 'self-destructive'.

    But, the world needs 'Chickens' too.............

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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Good question.... I would have to say Chad Dawson. He should have never veered left to take on Ward at the lower weight, and he should have stayed away from Stevenson until he hydrated.

    He never got back on track since that Ward loss.
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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Hector 'Macho' Camacho

    Though he had a great career, he was 'self-destructive' for several periods during
    his prime.


    Thad 'Babe' Spencer

    Nobody had more 'natural' talent than Thad in the Heavyweight Division from
    1964 thru 1967. 'Nose-Candy' did him in, along with cockiness.

    If he only had his head screwed on right, and listened to his good friend Eddie Machen
    and Manager - Willie Ketchum, he would have been a World Champion.
    You forgot Muhammad Ali. By being a draft-dodging coward he gave up his prime years!
    True,

    That cowardice that Cassius displayed was 'self-destructive'.

    But, the world needs 'Chickens' too.............
    As well as haters like you.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Hector 'Macho' Camacho

    Though he had a great career, he was 'self-destructive' for several periods during
    his prime.


    Thad 'Babe' Spencer

    Nobody had more 'natural' talent than Thad in the Heavyweight Division from
    1964 thru 1967. 'Nose-Candy' did him in, along with cockiness.

    If he only had his head screwed on right, and listened to his good friend Eddie Machen
    and Manager - Willie Ketchum, he would have been a World Champion.
    You forgot Muhammad Ali. By being a draft-dodging coward he gave up his prime years!
    True,

    That cowardice that Cassius displayed was 'self-destructive'.

    But, the world needs 'Chickens' too.............

    Ask colonel Sanders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Hector 'Macho' Camacho

    Though he had a great career, he was 'self-destructive' for several periods during
    his prime.


    Thad 'Babe' Spencer

    Nobody had more 'natural' talent than Thad in the Heavyweight Division from
    1964 thru 1967. 'Nose-Candy' did him in, along with cockiness.

    If he only had his head screwed on right, and listened to his good friend Eddie Machen
    and Manager - Willie Ketchum, he would have been a World Champion.
    You forgot Muhammad Ali. By being a draft-dodging coward he gave up his prime years!
    True,

    That cowardice that Cassius displayed was 'self-destructive'.

    But, the world needs 'Chickens' too.............
    I am hardly a huge All fan. Joe Frazier was always more up my street, but there is nothing chicken like in swimming against the tide.

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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    I gotta agree with Johnny Tapia.

    I loved watching him fight!

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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Hector 'Macho' Camacho

    Though he had a great career, he was 'self-destructive' for several periods during
    his prime.


    Thad 'Babe' Spencer

    Nobody had more 'natural' talent than Thad in the Heavyweight Division from
    1964 thru 1967. 'Nose-Candy' did him in, along with cockiness.

    If he only had his head screwed on right, and listened to his good friend Eddie Machen
    and Manager - Willie Ketchum, he would have been a World Champion.
    You forgot Muhammad Ali. By being a draft-dodging coward he gave up his prime years!
    True,

    That cowardice that Cassius displayed was 'self-destructive'.

    But, the world needs 'Chickens' too.............
    I am hardly a huge All fan. Joe Frazier was always more up my street, but there is nothing chicken like in swimming against the tide.
    That is one good thing about about Bill, he can unite all the Ali non-supporters.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Hector 'Macho' Camacho

    Though he had a great career, he was 'self-destructive' for several periods during
    his prime.


    Thad 'Babe' Spencer

    Nobody had more 'natural' talent than Thad in the Heavyweight Division from
    1964 thru 1967. 'Nose-Candy' did him in, along with cockiness.

    If he only had his head screwed on right, and listened to his good friend Eddie Machen
    and Manager - Willie Ketchum, he would have been a World Champion.
    You forgot Muhammad Ali. By being a draft-dodging coward he gave up his prime years!
    True,

    That cowardice that Cassius displayed was 'self-destructive'.

    But, the world needs 'Chickens' too.............
    Do you actually think he would have been put on the front lines? He knew fine well he wouldn't have been... Elvis wasn't, Joe Louis wasn't... He would have been safe and he knew it, going was NO risk, dodging the draft WAS...

    He made a statement against a futile, pointless war and threw away years of is career to do so, he had nothing to lose in going, but in doing so would have appeared to condone the war.

    Asking you to understand 'integrity' is too big of a stretch it seems.

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    Default Re: Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

    Mando Ramos, Keeny Teran, Raul Rojas, Ruben Navarro.

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