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    Default Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston

    Did he change it legally Bill? No matter how you dress it up, a pig is still a pig. Your wrong. If you wish to continue being wrong that's your prerogative but don't try to correct others when your ignorance keeps you completely awry of the facts.

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    Mothers are never wrong.


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    Cassius is a beautiful name, Haye named his son after him, but Clay was the slave name which he wanted to change.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Cassius is a beautiful name, Haye named his son after him, but Clay was the slave name which he wanted to change.
    Isn't it funny,

    How 'Young Cassius' suddenly got religion when he found out that his number was
    up for the United States Selective Service.

    What A Coincidence .............

    Sonji Roi >
    "You know, Cassius fell in love with me, for who I was. Then he wanted me to change, to help
    him with his problems to get out of his commitment to the United States Selective Service."

    "I got the feeling that I was being used as 'a tool'. I was his wife for God's Sake. He wanted me
    to stop living, and become his slave. Isn't that a 'Fucking Spin' on his new found righteousness."
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 07-05-2015 at 07:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Cassius is a beautiful name, Haye named his son after him, but Clay was the slave name which he wanted to change.
    Isn't it funny,

    How 'Young Cassius' suddenly got religion when he found out that his number was
    up for the United States Selective Service.

    What A Coincidence .............
    He was going to change his name anyway and had nothing to do with the draft.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Cassius is a beautiful name, Haye named his son after him, but Clay was the slave name which he wanted to change.
    Isn't it funny,

    How 'Young Cassius' suddenly got religion when he found out that his number was
    up for the United States Selective Service.

    What A Coincidence .............
    He was going to change his name anyway and had nothing to do with the draft.
    What else did Cassius Clay tell you, that you bought 'hook, line and sinker'.

    I bet that he could have sold you the Brooklyn Bridge, if he was a 'Bridge Salesman'.

    ~ Read all about it. Man buys 'Brooklyn Bridge' from Cassius Clay {aka; Muhammad Ali} ~

    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 07-05-2015 at 07:43 PM.

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    Default Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston

    Bill, you only see the worst in Ali, so there is no talking to you.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Bill, you only see the worst in Ali, so there is no talking to you.
    You shouldn't let your eyes be clouded by one man's Boxing Talent and Entertainment Value.

    How much do you really know about Muhammad Ali.

    Just what you read, which was by someone else's opinion. Or what you saw on Television.

    That's not knowing anything in 'real' depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Bill, you only see the worst in Ali, so there is no talking to you.
    You shouldn't let your eyes be clouded by one man's Boxing Talent and Entertainment Value.

    How much do you really know about Muhammad Ali.

    Just what you read, which was by someone else's opinion. Or what you saw on Television.

    That's not knowing anything in 'real' depth.
    Unless you knew him personally, you do not know him better than anyone else.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Bill, you only see the worst in Ali, so there is no talking to you.
    You shouldn't let your eyes be clouded by one man's Boxing Talent and Entertainment Value.

    How much do you really know about Muhammad Ali.

    Just what you read, which was by someone else's opinion. Or what you saw on Television.

    That's not knowing anything in 'real' depth.
    Unless you knew him personally, you do not know him better than anyone else.
    A close family member {Uncle} of mine worked with Cassius Clay.
    We know a lot.

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    Ali was introduced to Black Muslims long before the draft.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Ali was introduced to Black Muslims long before the draft.
    Why inject truth?
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Default Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Time - 23:00 - 00:00 (1 hour long)



    When - Saturday 5th May on ESPN Classic



    Clay V Liston.
    1964 - Classic archive action from the fight that 'shook up the world'. Reigning champ Liston faces an arrogant, exuberant opponent in young Cassius Clay.

    One of the many great things about this fight was how the Louiville "lip" fought so many of the top ten contenders.
    1962-1963-1964 Ring ratings show who Clay-Ali fought to get to the title and defend the title.
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Time - 23:00 - 00:00 (1 hour long)



    When - Saturday 5th May on ESPN Classic



    Clay V Liston.
    1964 - Classic archive action from the fight that 'shook up the world'. Reigning champ Liston faces an arrogant, exuberant opponent in young Cassius Clay.

    One of the many great things about this fight was how the Louiville "lip" fought so many of the top ten contenders.
    1962-1963-1964 Ring ratings show who Clay-Ali fought to get to the title and defend the title.
    Just Who Did Cassius Clay Avoid On His Rise To The Heavyweight Challenge In February 1964.

    Actually >

    It was his Management {The Louisville Sponsoring Group}, who knew that their fighter was, as we like to put it

    'a fabrication' created by good press and a 'well-oiled' Professional Publicity Machine.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 07-06-2015 at 01:09 AM.

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    Default Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Time - 23:00 - 00:00 (1 hour long)



    When - Saturday 5th May on ESPN Classic



    Clay V Liston.
    1964 - Classic archive action from the fight that 'shook up the world'. Reigning champ Liston faces an arrogant, exuberant opponent in young Cassius Clay.

    One of the many great things about this fight was how the Louiville "lip" fought so many of the top ten contenders.
    1962-1963-1964 Ring ratings show who Clay-Ali fought to get to the title and defend the title.
    Just Who Did Cassius Clay Avoid On His Rise To The Heavyweight Challenge In February 1964.

    Actually >

    It was his Management {The Louisville Sponsoring Group}, who knew that their fighter was, as we like to put it

    'a fabrication' created by good press and a 'well-oiled' Professional Publicity Machine.
    So they fabricated the top ten HW's? From what years? Please enlighten us. I like a good laugh.
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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