Most hated boxer ever ?

[Master]

For his time period.

It had to be Cassius Clay.

You mean from your time period.

[Bill Paxtom]

For his time period.

It had to be Cassius Clay.

You mean from your time period.

Most hated singer as well.

[X]

Lots of you lot don't know your boxing history.

Jack Johnson was one of the most hated people to ever live, never mind the most hated boxer. Jack Dempsey was universally loathed in his early days. For the perception he dodged military service. Sonny Liston was right up there in terms of how much the media, establishment and general population hated him. People forget how much Cassius Clay was hated - genuinely and viscerally - before be became sainted.

People talking about Mayweather or Bellew have no comprehension of what real hate is.

As a left field suggestion ..... Idi Amin was the heavyweight champion of Uganda for a while. He would be my pick of the most hated boxer ever.

[Bill Paxtom]

Lots of you lot don't know your boxing history.

Jack Johnson was one of the most hated people to ever live, never mind the most hated boxer. Jack Dempsey was universally loathed in his early days. For the perception he dodged military service. Sonny Liston was right up there in terms of how much the media, establishment and general population hated him. People forget how much Cassius Clay was hated - genuinely and viscerally - before be became sainted.

People talking about Mayweather or Bellew have no comprehension of what real hate is.

As a left field suggestion ..... Idi Amin was the heavyweight champion of Uganda for a while. He would be my pick of the most hated boxer ever.

Excellent Overview

[tysonesque]

Killing Apollo Creed didn't do much for Ivan Drago's public image.

[Master]

Dempsey became the one of the most loved champions during the golden age of boxing.

[beenKOed]

Killing Apollo Creed didn't do much for Ivan Drago's public image.

They all fell, the bad guys that is, before the punching machine that was Rocky!!
We still have to get that villainess, that dirty bitch that brought about the demise of the Million Dollar Baby.
Bringing things back to the realm of reality we still have to deliver justice to that juiced up Brazilian villainess Chris Cyborg for beating up Gina Carano!
Hate is a river that runs wide and deep, baby!

[Spicoli]

Ali and more so Johnson have to at very top. That wasn't a 'hate' of convenience, being some asshole or singular incident..that hate was engrained and reflection of times.

[IamInuit]

Ali and more so Johnson have to at very top. That wasn't a 'hate' of convenience, being some asshole or singular incident..that hate was engrained and reflection of times.

Exactly. And I'd wager George Dixon had his issues beyond what has been written.

It really is a deep question the more one thinks about it because it has a lot to do with the colour of a mans skin but also so much more. Again I cant even begin to know what it was like for Dixon being the first African descended champion. To walk down the street and have a slave name. The hate must have has its own taste.

With all of this talk about Johnson how did we overlook Tommy Burns. He was ostracized in the truest sense of the word for fighting Johnson. Authour and devote racist Jack London took out full newspaper articles. People wanted to hang poor Tommy.

[Spicoli]

Ali and more so Johnson have to at very top. That wasn't a 'hate' of convenience, being some asshole or singular incident..that hate was engrained and reflection of times.

Exactly. And I'd wager George Dixon had his issues beyond what has been written.

It really is a deep question the more one thinks about it because it has a lot to do with the colour of a mans skin but also so much more. Again I cant even begin to know what it was like for Dixon being the first African descended champion. To walk down the street and have a slave name. The hate must have has its own taste.

With all of this talk about Johnson how did we overlook Tommy Burns. He was ostracized in the truest sense of the word for fighting Johnson. Authour and devote racist Jack London took out full newspaper articles. People wanted to hang poor Tommy.

Good call on Dixon. I remember some article down here about a tourney he was in and the backlash. The only thing he was 'guilty' of was dominating his white opponent and scoring a ko. The fans were livid and the venue refused 'mixed' fights after. No wonder it was Dixons only fight in the deep south before and after.

[mikeeod]

I'm going to list my most hated. They are as follows:
1. James Butler
2. Antonio Margarito
3. Panama Lewis/Luis Resto
4. John Ruiz
5. Norman Stone (not a boxer, but he deserves to be on any most hated list)
6. Charlie Zelenoff (I know he shouldn't be on the list and has legitimate mental issues, but he is such a dipshit)
7. Andrew Golota
8. Ricardo Williams
9. Julio Ceasar Chavez Jr.
10. Adrian Broner

[Vendettos]

Tyson Fury
Carl Froch

Two guys that split opinion

But what I have found is that if people dislike these 2, they don't just dislike them a little, the full blown despise them.

I hate em both, really hope Froch gets his tougne cut out so I do not have to see him on sky.

[Bill Paxtom]

Dempsey became the one of the most loved champions during the golden age of boxing.

The most loved.

Even a certain former Heavyweight Champion said he loved Mr. Dempsey.

[denilson200]

Who win this ? Usually most of the hate is towards Floyd but it's not if he's a PED cheat or uses illegal hand warps etc. I don't think I've ever hated another boxer and felt the need to really put them down.

1) Who was the most hated fighter ever ?

Jack Johnson. Cassius Clay

2) Who should be the most hated fighter ever ?

Luis Resto. Margarito. James Butler

Has to be Resto for me and I'm not surprised that he's a guy from the islands (PR, Domincan Rep, etc) back then they taught their fighters to fight dirty.

I know this because my dad's friend was an assistant trainer to 2 world champions. One is Jese Benavidez of Corpus Christi, Texas. My dad's friend told me stories of some island fighters and it was really crazy. Ever wonder why Julio Cesar Chavez wore the red thing around his head ? Because Edwin Rosario tried to do voodoo/black magic shit on him. He was informed by another person that did the same stuff, and wore the red thing because that is supposedly blessed or reversed cursed.

I know it sounds dumb, but witch doctor s.hit is almost like another religion in Mexico and The Islands. Also if you look at Edwin Rosarios face when Chavez came into the ring, he has a bit of a slight shocked look. My dads friend told me that some of the Island trainers would deliberately teach their fighters dirty tricks. Like Trinidad hit low EVERY TIME he was hurt.

I saw the Resto documentary. I wish he would shut up because it's karma that he's now a broke bum and he has the nerve to bitch about Margacheato which is like a criminal who's doing 20 years in jail crying to someone that another criminal only doing 3 years for close to the same crime.

Besides Margacheato is a Neanderthal. He's too stupid to know when his trainer is tampering with his hand-wraps. Also at least Resto admits he’s done wrong and should be banned for life. While you have another (Margarito) who still claims he didn’t even know those plaster pads were even there.

[Bill Paxtom]