Republican Candidate Poll

[Kirkland Laing]

It is murky, but he is an american citizen. What is truly murky is birthrite citizenship. If an american couple have a child while traveling in China, the child is not automatically a Chinese citizen, he or she is a. American citizen. Reverse the couple, Chinese citizens have a baby in the us, the child is american.

Since Cruz is a citizen, it would be highly unlikely his citizenship would be revoked. Laws can't be ex post facto but a ruling by the courts could change it for future generations. As for Cruz, the argument is moot. He is currently a citizen and that ain't gonna change, sorry.

Born in Calgary, Canada, as an anchor baby for an illegal Mexican immigrant. Yes sirree, as American as apple pie. He was a Canadian citizen too up to a few years ago. I think we need to see the mother's birth certificate. The long form version too, the actual original copy. So we can check the kerning and make sure it's real. Why haven't we seen the birth certificate?

[Kirkland Laing]

No matter which one of these idiots ends up winning there's one huge problem down the line. We're going to see an economic downturn and the only way out of it will be massive government spending, serious spending of a trillion or two dollars.

But at least the House if not the Senate won't give any prez any amount of money like that. And we may well get a prez who thinks that government spending isn't the answer to the downturn but instead cutting spending and support for the financial system a la 1930s Mellonite liquidationist theory which turned a market collapse into the Depression.

So the likely range of policy response to the next recession goes from do nothing to make it much worse. And unfortunately with the next one even doing nothing is not an option.

[walrus]

No matter which one of these idiots ends up winning there's one huge problem down the line. We're going to see an economic downturn and the only way out of it will be massive government spending, serious spending of a trillion or two dollars.

But at least the House if not the Senate won't give any prez any amount of money like that. And we may well get a prez who thinks that government spending isn't the answer to the downturn but instead cutting spending and support for the financial system a la 1930s Mellonite liquidationist theory which turned a market collapse into the Depression.

So the likely range of policy response to the next recession goes from do nothing to make it much worse. And unfortunately with the next one even doing nothing is not an option.

Utter utter bullshit

[Kirkland Laing]

No matter which one of these idiots ends up winning there's one huge problem down the line. We're going to see an economic downturn and the only way out of it will be massive government spending, serious spending of a trillion or two dollars.

But at least the House if not the Senate won't give any prez any amount of money like that. And we may well get a prez who thinks that government spending isn't the answer to the downturn but instead cutting spending and support for the financial system a la 1930s Mellonite liquidationist theory which turned a market collapse into the Depression.

So the likely range of policy response to the next recession goes from do nothing to make it much worse. And unfortunately with the next one even doing nothing is not an option.

Utter utter bullshit

In what way?

[walrus]

No matter which one of these idiots ends up winning there's one huge problem down the line. We're going to see an economic downturn and the only way out of it will be massive government spending, serious spending of a trillion or two dollars.

But at least the House if not the Senate won't give any prez any amount of money like that. And we may well get a prez who thinks that government spending isn't the answer to the downturn but instead cutting spending and support for the financial system a la 1930s Mellonite liquidationist theory which turned a market collapse into the Depression.

So the likely range of policy response to the next recession goes from do nothing to make it much worse. And unfortunately with the next one even doing nothing is not an option.

Utter utter bullshit

In what way?

Basically every which way

[Gandalf]

You tell him, Walrus. Ask him about those interest rates too and check if my Janet and John books were right.

[Kirkland Laing]

No matter which one of these idiots ends up winning there's one huge problem down the line. We're going to see an economic downturn and the only way out of it will be massive government spending, serious spending of a trillion or two dollars.

But at least the House if not the Senate won't give any prez any amount of money like that. And we may well get a prez who thinks that government spending isn't the answer to the downturn but instead cutting spending and support for the financial system a la 1930s Mellonite liquidationist theory which turned a market collapse into the Depression.

So the likely range of policy response to the next recession goes from do nothing to make it much worse. And unfortunately with the next one even doing nothing is not an option.

Utter utter bullshit

In what way?

Basically every which way

At least Lyle used to make an argument. He never had a clue either but at least he tried to argue back.

[Kirkland Laing]

You tell him, Walrus. Ask him about those interest rates too and check if my Janet and John books were right.

Yes mate, today's soaring interest rates, hyperinflation and collapsing currencies have proved you right, you fucking fruit loop.

[walrus]

No matter which one of these idiots ends up winning there's one huge problem down the line. We're going to see an economic downturn and the only way out of it will be massive government spending, serious spending of a trillion or two dollars.

But at least the House if not the Senate won't give any prez any amount of money like that. And we may well get a prez who thinks that government spending isn't the answer to the downturn but instead cutting spending and support for the financial system a la 1930s Mellonite liquidationist theory which turned a market collapse into the Depression.

So the likely range of policy response to the next recession goes from do nothing to make it much worse. And unfortunately with the next one even doing nothing is not an option.

Utter utter bullshit

In what way?

Basically every which way

At least Lyle used to make an argument. He never had a clue either but at least he tried to argue back.

Yes, but I don't have the tolerance for utter nonsense that Lyle does. It would serve me better to fight windmills than trudge in such utter nonsense.

[Gandalf]

These are abnormal times, Kirk.

You are quick to attack, but as soon as interest rates rose the system is teetering. My Janet and John books were right. Just 0.25% too. Titter titter.

The hyper inflation was in stocks and property and now it should start to crash. Money was not given to any old person was it now. Currencies around the world have been suffering too.

[walrus]

These are abnormal times, Kirk.

You are quick to attack, but as soon as interest rates rose the system is teetering. My Janet and John books were right. Just 0.25% too. Titter titter.

The hyper inflation was in stocks and property and now it should start to crash. Money was not given to any old person was it now. Currencies around the world have been suffering too.

Once again my positions in the market are fine. I must be a genius.

[walrus]

I just heard the fed is expecting a 20 trillion dollar deficit due in part to Obama care. Some are saying it could be 30 trillion which means probably 100 trillion.

[Kirkland Laing]

These are abnormal times, Kirk.

You are quick to attack, but as soon as interest rates rose the system is teetering. My Janet and John books were right. Just 0.25% too. Titter titter.

The hyper inflation was in stocks and property and now it should start to crash. Money was not given to any old person was it now. Currencies around the world have been suffering too.

What you've been saying for about eight years is that interest rates would soar as governments would have to pay big premiums to get people to buy their worthless dollar/sterling euro debt.

You spent eight years predicting hyperinflation when we're seeing eight years of one percent inflation. If stock markets going up is hyperinflation, then surely the current big current falls in the markets means we're seeing massive deflation? How is that possible?

You've been claiming the dollar is becoming worthless for eight years now.




So everything you've been saying for the last eight years has proved to be diametrically opposed to reality. You fucking fruit loop.

[Kirkland Laing]

I just heard the fed is expecting a 20 trillion dollar deficit due in part to Obama care. Some are saying it could be 30 trillion which means probably 100 trillion.

Any debt the US government incurs is due in part to every single thing the government spends money on. Obamacare is a tiny fraction of the government budget. And thirty billion in relation to what? When do they predict debt levels will be that high? And what do they predict GDP will be then? You're aware the debt level is irrelevant provided GDP keeps pace, right? That that debt will never be paid back and that it doesn't matter?

[Gandalf]

These are abnormal times, Kirk.

You are quick to attack, but as soon as interest rates rose the system is teetering. My Janet and John books were right. Just 0.25% too. Titter titter.

The hyper inflation was in stocks and property and now it should start to crash. Money was not given to any old person was it now. Currencies around the world have been suffering too.

What you've been saying for about eight years is that interest rates would soar as governments would have to pay big premiums to get people to buy their worthless dollar/sterling euro debt.

You spent eight years predicting hyperinflation when we're seeing eight years of one percent inflation. If stock markets going up is hyperinflation, then surely the current big current falls in the markets means we're seeing massive deflation? How is that possible?

You've been claiming the dollar is becoming worthless for eight years now.




So everything you've been saying for the last eight years has proved to be diametrically opposed to reality. You fucking fruit loop.

Interest rates haven't soared and that has been my point. For some reason you fail to compute this. Instead you waffle on with a bunch of untruths as is your will and way. I have always maintained that when interest rates rise the system collapses. Why is that so difficult for you to comprehend? It's like talking to a Geordie or something.

Walrus is right. You cannot discuss things with people who make stuff up and talk streams of nonsense. If you do not understand what is going on or the different types of inflation/deflation then you are in the correct trade.

Back to my Janet and John books now. I look forward to the next interest rate hikes. Pfft.