Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd

[Batman]

If his Achilles had really gone they would have pulled him out between rounds, especially if he had really been having treatment for it making them fully aware of what would have happened.

Why would they think with no mobility he could go on to win when he'd already done his best work?

Are people stupid enough to believe his team thought it may heal itself during the next round?

Get real and don't swallow the bullshit. Haye looked what he is, crap.

Id like to know what Haye and McGuigan were saying to each other after the 6th.

@ross so let me get this right

You are adamant that Haye firstly cut himself above his eye which required 6-7 stitches
Then he faked a shoulder injury, flew over to Germany, lay in a hospital bed allowing himself to be photographed and put on the web/press then flew back to the UK and wore a huge padded robo sling device for a few months?

All to avoid Fury

(Maybe the German Hospital should be investigated as co conspirators)

He then faked an Achilles/Ankle injury midway through a shit or bust fight in front of 19,000 people and millions watching around the world - your evidence is that you claim to have seen him throw the odd power punch at Bellew and forget to drag his foot along so as to keep the Millions of viewers fooled.

Strange that out of these Millions of viewers and all the TV coverage and Sports Press around the World it is you and you only that claim this is what happened.

The Massive odds against you prove beyond any doubt you are talking absolute shit again.

We all get that you Hate Haye and are Obsessed with Fury but just leave it at that

Yes.

Have a look at Achilles injuries and ask yourself how he could even put weight on it let alone suddenly forget it was injured when he thought he had Bellew hurt and stormed forward launching punches. What you watched was a man who's lungs were hurting him more than his leg. If you rupture your Achilles you totally lose mobility on that one leg and physically can not move around on it. Check it out if you want to see the truth of what a ruptured Achilles would do for mobility.

Oh and yes he avoided Fury. Imagine how ridiculous a Fury v Haye fight would have looked! He couldn't outbox someone who's supposedly the same height as him (Bellew looked a couple of inches taller and Chisora looked the same height) let alone someone 8" taller who could actually beat Klitschko. Haye wouldn't have got a sniff and judging by last night there's a good reason he avoided Briggs as well.

Right firstly don't swerve my question regarding Haye cutting himself open then getting it stitched up then faking keyhole surgery on his shoulder over in Germany.

You remember saying this right?

We All Do


Secondly your now adamant/claiming that Haye has a new co conspirator namely the London hospital he went to (possibly undergoing surgery) with a suspected ruptured Achilles and everyones in it together, Haye, Team Haye, the Press for reporting it, Sky Sports etc for reporting it and the London Hospital

Maybe Haye watched The Usual Suspects movie all week and studied the way Kevin Spacey limps around dragging his foot as the character Verbal Kint to get his act bang on too


Hell of a scam that one

Turn it in you Wanker FFS

Haha! Sky reported that he left hospital with no surgery

Also, regarding those hurtmyselfies that Haye took. Where's the dates or even the location or the doctors in the photos? Don't be a mug...

Youll believe anything...

Yeah, next he'll be telling everyone he's bipolar. Then he'll say he's clinically depressed, then he'll start taking coke and not defend claims that he's failed a drugs test.
You never know, he might even do something crazy like renounce his own people and say "I'm not a black British guy anymore, I just don't feel that I am ."
Ha ha , you silly cunt!

Wouldnt make the same impact unless he could somehow beat the best in the division. He's just lost to Bellew
Put that in context. How far down the pecking order do you need to go before you find anither British heavy that Bellew could beat?

Gotta say Ross, I think he's got ya there

[Primo Carnera]

If his Achilles had really gone they would have pulled him out between rounds, especially if he had really been having treatment for it making them fully aware of what would have happened.

Why would they think with no mobility he could go on to win when he'd already done his best work?

Are people stupid enough to believe his team thought it may heal itself during the next round?

Get real and don't swallow the bullshit. Haye looked what he is, crap.

Id like to know what Haye and McGuigan were saying to each other after the 6th.

@ross so let me get this right

You are adamant that Haye firstly cut himself above his eye which required 6-7 stitches
Then he faked a shoulder injury, flew over to Germany, lay in a hospital bed allowing himself to be photographed and put on the web/press then flew back to the UK and wore a huge padded robo sling device for a few months?

All to avoid Fury

(Maybe the German Hospital should be investigated as co conspirators)

He then faked an Achilles/Ankle injury midway through a shit or bust fight in front of 19,000 people and millions watching around the world - your evidence is that you claim to have seen him throw the odd power punch at Bellew and forget to drag his foot along so as to keep the Millions of viewers fooled.

Strange that out of these Millions of viewers and all the TV coverage and Sports Press around the World it is you and you only that claim this is what happened.

The Massive odds against you prove beyond any doubt you are talking absolute shit again.

We all get that you Hate Haye and are Obsessed with Fury but just leave it at that

Yes.

Have a look at Achilles injuries and ask yourself how he could even put weight on it let alone suddenly forget it was injured when he thought he had Bellew hurt and stormed forward launching punches. What you watched was a man who's lungs were hurting him more than his leg. If you rupture your Achilles you totally lose mobility on that one leg and physically can not move around on it. Check it out if you want to see the truth of what a ruptured Achilles would do for mobility.

Oh and yes he avoided Fury. Imagine how ridiculous a Fury v Haye fight would have looked! He couldn't outbox someone who's supposedly the same height as him (Bellew looked a couple of inches taller and Chisora looked the same height) let alone someone 8" taller who could actually beat Klitschko. Haye wouldn't have got a sniff and judging by last night there's a good reason he avoided Briggs as well.

Right firstly don't swerve my question regarding Haye cutting himself open then getting it stitched up then faking keyhole surgery on his shoulder over in Germany.

You remember saying this right?

We All Do


Secondly your now adamant/claiming that Haye has a new co conspirator namely the London hospital he went to (possibly undergoing surgery) with a suspected ruptured Achilles and everyones in it together, Haye, Team Haye, the Press for reporting it, Sky Sports etc for reporting it and the London Hospital

Maybe Haye watched The Usual Suspects movie all week and studied the way Kevin Spacey limps around dragging his foot as the character Verbal Kint to get his act bang on too


Hell of a scam that one

Turn it in you Wanker FFS

Haha! Sky reported that he left hospital with no surgery

Also, regarding those hurtmyselfies that Haye took. Where's the dates or even the location or the doctors in the photos? Don't be a mug...

Youll believe anything...

Yeah, next he'll be telling everyone he's bipolar. Then he'll say he's clinically depressed, then he'll start taking coke and not defend claims that he's failed a drugs test.
You never know, he might even do something crazy like renounce his own people and say "I'm not a black British guy anymore, I just don't feel that I am ."
Ha ha , you silly cunt!

Wouldnt make the same impact unless he could somehow beat the best in the division. He's just lost to Bellew
Put that in context. How far down the pecking order do you need to go before you find anither British heavy that Bellew could beat?

Gotta say Ross, I think he's got ya there

Thank you @Batman , but I have to say , it's a fairly common and simple thing to do really.
As @smashup quite rightly said earlier in the dialogue , when he doesn't have an answer, he swerves the question.
Without boasting , I have to say I can't remember ever not having the final word when debating with @ross and if he doesn't believe me, he can look back at the historic posts!
( I know you like a nice emoji or two!)

[holmcall]

Update on Hayes Injury:

“David underwent surgery to his right Achilles this afternoon, after completely rupturing the tendon during Saturday night’s fight with Tony Bellew. David would like to thank everyone for their many messages of support, as well as the staff at the hospital.”

[smashup]

Haye vs Bellew: David Haye out of hospital after Achilles surgery | Boxing News | Sky Sports


So the London hospital are in on the conspiracy @ross

[ross]

Haye vs Bellew: David Haye out of hospital after Achilles surgery | Boxing News | Sky Sports


So the London hospital are in on the conspiracy @ross

That there is deffinitely indisputably hard evidence that could never be argued against. I mean, when you see the statement "after surgery" accompanied by nothing else, with no usual hurtmyselfy or statement from any doctors or surgeons we can deffinitely take their word (that was probably fed from Hayes team).

I await the Mike Tyson style photo of him say in a wheelchair with his leg bandaged up

[Master]

Bellew would not be able to beat Chisora or Whyte yet he is now touted for world title fights. Ridiculous.

Bellew is on the verge of retiring and does not want to fight anymore, you can tell but he will be pushed in with real fit healthy heavyweights and get smashed.

[erics44]

common @ross, its getting a bit daft now

its clear you have a dislike for Haye buts lets be as humble in victory as we are in defeat

[ross]

common @ross, its getting a bit daft now

its clear you have a dislike for Haye buts lets be as humble in victory as we are in defeat

Im not as gullible as everyone else in here it seems. Haye was just tired. He wasn't in proper fighting shape, he didn't think he'd have to be. He forgot he was putting on an injury late in the fight. Watch the last few rounds again and see Haye launching himself fine off both feet.

But ut show me the proof he's actually had surgery rather than just a few words saying he's had surgery. Not even the name of the procedure has been stated. It's bullshit.

[TitoFan]

Well.... a ruptured Achilles tendon definitely trumps a sore toe.



If I happen to catch the replay I'll watch it... but I was just happy to hear Haye had lost by TKO, seeing as to how I can't stand the loudmouth. Given his penchant for pre-fight, blabbering, trash-talking drama... only to come up limping in the fight... and now against a definite non-factor like Bellew... I'd say it's safe to say his relevance in the HW division, if there ever was any... has simply evaporated.

[smashup]

common @ross, its getting a bit daft now

its clear you have a dislike for Haye buts lets be as humble in victory as we are in defeat

Im not as gullible as everyone else in here it seems. Haye was just tired. He wasn't in proper fighting shape, he didn't think he'd have to be. He forgot he was putting on an injury late in the fight. Watch the last few rounds again and see Haye launching himself fine off both feet.

But ut show me the proof he's actually had surgery rather than just a few words saying he's had surgery. Not even the name of the procedure has been stated. It's bullshit.

Your talking absolute shit AGAIN @ross

I've watched the fight back twice now and from the 6th onwards there's noting in Hayes punches and he's clearly injured.

He doesn't launch himself fine off both feet at all at anytime.

He does throw and land 2 or 3 hard left hooks late on because the left is the only hand he can generate power with due to his injury.

So for a third time i'll ask you

Your claims are as follows
1 - Haye cut his own forehead open and gave himself 5-6 stitches to avoid Fury
2 - Haye flew to Germany (Paying them off to keep it all hush hush and lie for him) , got into a hospital bed rigged up to a machine and faked keyhole shoulder surgery then wore a fake futuristic sling for months continuing his lie while doing pundit work for Sky Sports, again to avoid Fury

3 - Haye fought 5-6 rounds infront of 19,000 fans and Millions watching globally while pretending to have a ruptured Achilles knowing a loss would be the end of his career then paid off a London Hospital to pretend he's had surgery on it and yet again everyones in on the conspiracy together (Press/Media/Hospitals/team Haye etc etc)



We all know the first 2 you 100% believe, i just can't be fucked to drag up your old posts

So your saying 100% that the 3rd is fact yes?

Don't swerve the question again just answer it

[erics44]

common @ross, its getting a bit daft now

its clear you have a dislike for Haye buts lets be as humble in victory as we are in defeat

Im not as gullible as everyone else in here it seems. Haye was just tired. He wasn't in proper fighting shape, he didn't think he'd have to be. He forgot he was putting on an injury late in the fight. Watch the last few rounds again and see Haye launching himself fine off both feet.

But ut show me the proof he's actually had surgery rather than just a few words saying he's had surgery. Not even the name of the procedure has been stated. It's bullshit.

I don't agree with this at all, bellew looked more tired

The was a clear injury and the proof was in the fight, watch it back, whether or not it needed surgery is irrelevant, he was clearly injured

itd have been more knackering fighting like he fought than it would fighting properly, so saying he did it because he was tired doesn't make any sense

@ross he lost, whatever the circumstances he lost, lets be humble

[Memphis]

Unsavory ending to be honest, would have preferred one of them to be wiped out with no room for ambiguity. Now we get the will they wont they rematch bollocks for a fight that was save for financial gain, not necessary in the first place.

Haye looked like a bag of shit even when he had two legs to be fair. He looked like he'd borrowed pages out of the Deontay Wilder windmill punching playbook. You cant really argue with what Bellew did, he kept himself out of the way early on for the most part, his plan worked to a tee, Haye being on one leg lit a fire under it.

I dont really see how anyone can be giving Haye stick for the injury. There's a video that shows the achillies going, you'd have to be obligated up to the eyeballs to ignore it or deny it. I've heard all sorts of nonsense over the past couple of days. 'I snapped my achillies once and I couldnt stand, you cant stand with a snapped achillies!!!' You can stand, just not on your tip toes, you'd be flat footed as Haye was. If you've ever had a torn achillies and you couldnt walk, that means you're a fanny, it doesnt mean David Haye is faking.

[Master]

Haye was definitely injured, you could see the look of hurt and pain when it went. Haye was probably aware that it was vulnerable, hence the trip to Germany but probably thought he could beat Bellew.

Haye did look awful before the injury but was winning the fight and bellew was getting marked up.

Bellew won because Haye's leg broke down.

[Fenster]

Adam Booth said he knew Haye had done hardly any sparring within the first minute.

[Primo Carnera]

Adam Booth said he knew Haye had done hardly any sparring within the first minute.

He's absolutely on the money to be fair. Haye's timing was way, way out.