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    Default Re: The most skilled fighters

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Think I may have done something along these lines earlier but a bunch of posts have been wiped out so I'm not sure

    When I say skills I don't mean natural athletic ability (pure speed, pure power, etc.), I mean defense, slipping punches, timing, skilled punches (how straight you throw them, technical punches), countering, etc.

    I'll go with

    Floyd
    Toney
    Hopkins (assuming he's still fighting)
    JMM
    Calderon
    Barrera-could be a bit better defensively maybe

    Guzman if he'd tighten up his punches, can be a bit wild at times

    If I've forgotten somebody, well that's the point, give me some names
    Judah needs to be on the list for "skill"

    it's just mentality he's lacking.
    If I made a list of guys who are naturally the most athletically talented Judah would be on there

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    Default Re: The most skilled fighters

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Think I may have done something along these lines earlier but a bunch of posts have been wiped out so I'm not sure

    When I say skills I don't mean natural athletic ability (pure speed, pure power, etc.), I mean defense, slipping punches, timing, skilled punches (how straight you throw them, technical punches), countering, etc.

    I'll go with

    Floyd
    Toney
    Hopkins (assuming he's still fighting)
    JMM
    Calderon
    Barrera-could be a bit better defensively maybe

    Guzman if he'd tighten up his punches, can be a bit wild at times

    If I've forgotten somebody, well that's the point, give me some names
    Judah needs to be on the list for "skill"

    it's just mentality he's lacking.
    If I made a list of guys who are naturally the most athletically talented Judah would be on there
    I saw the first Spinks bout and he was outboxed despite having strong points in the fight, same thing with PBF

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    Default Re: The most skilled fighters

    I agree with most suggestions but what about Zab Judah?
    I think he has outstanding skills regarding speed and accuracy and we all saw it in the first 4 rounds of his fight wirh PBF (untill he was mentally broken again)
    I just thought he deserved a mention.

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    Default Re: The most skilled fighters

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_G
    If I was as great as PBF, I would be fighting like 8 times a year.
    If I was Floyd, I'd be taking cocaine and surrounding myself with white women.

    I forgot, Floyd already does the latter. heheh

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    Default Re: The most skilled fighters

    PBF
    Toney
    Winky
    JMM
    Calderon
    Hopkins
    ODLH

    As for newbies that look like they have the goods:
    D-Hop
    Dawson
    Segura


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    Default Re: The most skilled fighters

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
    PBF
    Toney
    Winky
    JMM
    Calderon
    Hopkins
    ODLH

    As for newbies that look like they have the goods:
    D-Hop
    Dawson
    Segura

    I don't know much about Segura, what does he fight at, 112?

    And D-Hop is a promising prospect

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    Default Re: The most skilled fighters

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
    PBF
    Toney
    Winky
    JMM
    Calderon
    Hopkins
    ODLH

    As for newbies that look like they have the goods:
    D-Hop
    Dawson
    Segura

    I don't know much about Segura, what does he fight at, 112?

    And D-Hop is a promising prospect
    Yeah! he fights at 112, I've seen him fight 3 times he smart and patient though I'm sure theres others out there these are the ones that came to mind.
    D-Hop has very good lateral movements and you can tell hes seen/studies B-Hop his movements in the ring are very similar to B-hops

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    Default Re: The most skilled fighters

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel
    I agree with most suggestions but what about Zab Judah?
    I think he has outstanding skills regarding speed and accuracy and we all saw it in the first 4 rounds of his fight wirh PBF (untill he was mentally broken again)
    I just thought he deserved a mention.
    He didn't break, Mayweather figured him out.

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    Default Re: The most skilled fighters

    I don't see why Judah would be on this list at all. True, he has speed. With speed comes accuracy, naturally. But his jab is terrible. Most boxers with skill have very good jabs and Judah's jab is one he just puts out there with no effectiveness whatsoever. Skilled boxers do a good job of avoiding power shots. Judah gets hit with power shots and of course, his chin is glass. Skilled boxers adjust during fights as Mayweather did against Judah after the fourth round and as Collazo did against Hatton after the first round, and as Quintana did against Julio after the first round. Judah does not have the ability to adjust. Judah should not even be mentioned in this discussion, definitely not in the last four years.

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    Default Re: The most skilled fighters

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel
    I agree with most suggestions but what about Zab Judah?
    I think he has outstanding skills regarding speed and accuracy and we all saw it in the first 4 rounds of his fight wirh PBF (untill he was mentally broken again)
    I just thought he deserved a mention.
    He didn't break, Mayweather figured him out.

    I agree, seems like most people on this forum are saying it was more of Judah losing the fight rather than saying it was Floyd who won it, it was a major ass whoppin and PBF deserves the credit for a great fight, many people mention Judah as one of the most skilled fighters in the world and then turn around and say who has PBF fought. That makes no sense to me.

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    Default Re: The most skilled fighters

    In todays era it will have to be PBF hands down with winky being a runner up, but if I will have to pick the most skilled fighter ever in boxing it will have to be The Old Master Joe Gans.

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