Tua

[p4pking]

its because in his prime no one ever really hurt him exceptions of bruno and tucker and smith but that was only for split second and they didnt take advantage of it smith only hurt him once with about 10 seconds left in the fight bruno only hurt him once in first round but never took advantage and tucker stunned him with uppercut but again never really pounced on him i truly believe he got found out but thats my opinion im not saying he hasnt got heart of course hes got heart but not really big one like holyfield and ect

Noone ever really hurt him becuse he was phenomenally quick and polished for a man of his size, and had excellent punch recovery. Noone could take advantage. I don't think you know what your talking about in the slightest to be honest.

[Lords Gym]

right so granted im not a huge tua fan and i havnt seen loads of him, but boy can that man bang!
so the question and statement is as follows..
ive seen a fair few tua knockout clips right... and ive never seen anyone who he has put down, get back up!
just never seen it, so has everyone who he has sent to the deck stayed there?
peace

He was one bad a** Somouan (Did I spell that right) but he disappointed me in the Lewis fight, I thought he would knock Lennox out, but it looked like he was not even trying to launch the big hook.

i didnt see the lewis fight but i knew he had lost to him! i figured it was prob just one of those inbetween lennox match's where theyr not good but not bad?!
lol i think its samoan? maybe? who knows :P
yeh sometimes they jus dont show up in the right mindset and it just never happens they jus dont pick up?!
peace

I would still pay for a Tyson Vs Tua fight to this day.

so would i!!...but both in there primes,tyson destroyes tua in 1..by the way bomber did u sc me,was the oral that bad ahh cmon i give great rim baby!

no way tua would get koed in 1 tua is one tough mofo he would take tyson the full 12 and could very well ko tyson he has got great power himself and great workrate

I agree , I like Tua in that fight. Tua has a nice chin , he can take a punch, and he has power late in a fight. if both guys fought today I take Tua in a heart beat. .. if both guys fought in there prime, I might go with Tyson. for sheer speed , power and elusiveness. However if Tyson couldn’t get Tua out of there, Tyson would lose confidence and get knocked out late. Tyson, even in his prime liked to hold a lot , take breaks. especially in the mid to late rounds of a fight, However Tua in his prime never would honor the silent agreement to tie up and rest. He would always be moving forward and always in position to punch , kind of like a George Foreman , just walking his man down.

[SEB]

It would have been a hell of a bout the Tyson - Tua one, but I see TYsonin this one, he had too much speed and power in his good days, a lethal combination. it's true that Tua has a good chain and exellent left hook.

Like Lord gym said, what's killing Tua nowadays just the Burgers !!! he's so fanatic about burger and french fries...and eats that a lot.

His problem is that he thinks he's fine at 245 - 250 lbls...he thinks "yeah I'm in good shape". but this is not true. he absolutely needs to get back to 225-230 lbls. for his height and stamina 230 should be the maximum.

Can't understand why he hasn't got a diet doctor with him...dam man.

[ICB]

its because in his prime no one ever really hurt him exceptions of bruno and tucker and smith but that was only for split second and they didnt take advantage of it smith only hurt him once with about 10 seconds left in the fight bruno only hurt him once in first round but never took advantage and tucker stunned him with uppercut but again never really pounced on him i truly believe he got found out but thats my opinion im not saying he hasnt got heart of course hes got heart but not really big one like holyfield and ect

Noone ever really hurt him becuse he was phenomenally quick and polished for a man of his size, and had excellent punch recovery. Noone could take advantage. I don't think you know what your talking about in the slightest to be honest.

yes i do i was replying to what the other guy said i was saying that no one did hurt him in his prime only with single punch only one that really did anything was bonecrusher he hurt him with single punch and went on the attack but it was too late by then u dont know what his punch recovery was like because like i said no one really did hurt him only with one single punch in his prime i think u got me wrong im not saying he hasnt got heart or chin im just saying he hasnt got chin or heart like some of the others and thats known fact so i dont know what ur saying that *i dont know what im talking about*

[stavros693000]

its because in his prime no one ever really hurt him exceptions of bruno and tucker and smith but that was only for split second and they didnt take advantage of it smith only hurt him once with about 10 seconds left in the fight bruno only hurt him once in first round but never took advantage and tucker stunned him with uppercut but again never really pounced on him i truly believe he got found out but thats my opinion im not saying he hasnt got heart of course hes got heart but not really big one like holyfield and ect

Noone ever really hurt him becuse he was phenomenally quick and polished for a man of his size, and had excellent punch recovery. Noone could take advantage. I don't think you know what your talking about in the slightest to be honest.

yes i do i was replying to what the other guy said i was saying that no one did hurt him in his prime only with single punch only one that really did anything was bonecrusher he hurt him with single punch and went on the attack but it was too late by then u dont know what his punch recovery was like because like i said no one really did hurt him only with one single punch in his prime i think u got me wrong im not saying he hasnt got heart or chin im just saying he hasnt got chin or heart like some of the others and thats known fact so i dont know what ur saying that *i dont know what im talking about*

ur right ice,tyson didnt have the hart of a holyfeild or an ali...but i think imo that his punch recovery was pretty good eg:the uppercut tucker hit him with was enough to have anyone in trouble but it didnt look like it fazed him to much ,and the punishment he took in ruddick 2 should have koed most imo...but the reason none of them couldnt capitalize on it was because tyson was awsone! i know youll disagree but i see ur point......but hey if we all agreed ,it would be pretty pointless posting!



ps: notice when tyson was under rooney and training like an animal,he hardly ever got hit..as soon as he fired him and went with king ,he looked pretty ordinary against bruno,then douglas and ruddick!...he just wasnt the same! IMO...PEACE MATE!

[ICB]

its because in his prime no one ever really hurt him exceptions of bruno and tucker and smith but that was only for split second and they didnt take advantage of it smith only hurt him once with about 10 seconds left in the fight bruno only hurt him once in first round but never took advantage and tucker stunned him with uppercut but again never really pounced on him i truly believe he got found out but thats my opinion im not saying he hasnt got heart of course hes got heart but not really big one like holyfield and ect

Noone ever really hurt him becuse he was phenomenally quick and polished for a man of his size, and had excellent punch recovery. Noone could take advantage. I don't think you know what your talking about in the slightest to be honest.

yes i do i was replying to what the other guy said i was saying that no one did hurt him in his prime only with single punch only one that really did anything was bonecrusher he hurt him with single punch and went on the attack but it was too late by then u dont know what his punch recovery was like because like i said no one really did hurt him only with one single punch in his prime i think u got me wrong im not saying he hasnt got heart or chin im just saying he hasnt got chin or heart like some of the others and thats known fact so i dont know what ur saying that *i dont know what im talking about*

ur right ice,tyson didnt have the hart of a holyfeild or an ali...but i think imo that his punch recovery was pretty good eg:the uppercut tucker hit him with was enough to have anyone in trouble but it didnt look like it fazed him to much ,and the punishment he took in ruddick 2 should have koed most imo...but the reason none of them couldnt capitalize on it was because tyson was awsone! i know youll disagree but i see ur point......but hey if we all agreed ,it would be pretty pointless posting!



ps: notice when tyson was under rooney and training like an animal,he hardly ever got hit..as soon as he fired him and went with king ,he looked pretty ordinary against bruno,then douglas and ruddick!...he just wasnt the same! IMO...PEACE MATE!

to be honest mate people say he wasnt in his prime again ruddock i think he done very well in that fight he was at good weight he had good head movement speed and of course power yep i was quite impressed with that uppercut he took off tucker i was suprised he took that because that almost lifted him off his feet maybe it isnt that hes got a bad chin maybe he gets discouraged when people fire back at him ?? i dont know mate but maybe thats possibility

[cockey cockney]

right so granted im not a huge tua fan and i havnt seen loads of him, but boy can that man bang!
so the question and statement is as follows..
ive seen a fair few tua knockout clips right... and ive never seen anyone who he has put down, get back up!
just never seen it, so has everyone who he has sent to the deck stayed there?
peace

He was one bad a** Somouan (Did I spell that right) but he disappointed me in the Lewis fight, I thought he would knock Lennox out, but it looked like he was not even trying to launch the big hook.

i didnt see the lewis fight but i knew he had lost to him! i figured it was prob just one of those inbetween lennox match's where theyr not good but not bad?!
lol i think its samoan? maybe? who knows :P
yeh sometimes they jus dont show up in the right mindset and it just never happens they jus dont pick up?!
peace

I would still pay for a Tyson Vs Tua fight to this day.

so would i!!...but both in there primes,tyson destroyes tua in 1..by the way bomber did u sc me,was the oral that bad ahh cmon i give great rim baby!

no way tua would get koed in 1 tua is one tough mofo he would take tyson the full 12 and could very well ko tyson he has got great power himself and great workrate

imo tua is to one dimentional,he just walks straight in,no head movement.thats why i think tyson would blow him out very quick,maybe not one round but it would not go the distance...tua isnt in the same league as primed up tyson

SPOT ON! Couldnt of said it better meself!

[bigragu]

right so granted im not a huge tua fan and i havnt seen loads of him, but boy can that man bang!
so the question and statement is as follows..
ive seen a fair few tua knockout clips right... and ive never seen anyone who he has put down, get back up!
just never seen it, so has everyone who he has sent to the deck stayed there?
peace

He was one bad a** Somouan (Did I spell that right) but he disappointed me in the Lewis fight, I thought he would knock Lennox out, but it looked like he was not even trying to launch the big hook.

i didnt see the lewis fight but i knew he had lost to him! i figured it was prob just one of those inbetween lennox match's where theyr not good but not bad?!
lol i think its samoan? maybe? who knows :P
yeh sometimes they jus dont show up in the right mindset and it just never happens they jus dont pick up?!
peace

true...lennox had the ability and trainer(Emanuel S) to take most fighters completely out of their gameplan....those two combined can change the way a fighter fights...He took away Tua's explosiveness by boxing him and not allowing Tua to fire the big ones.....similar to Joe C over Lacy but not that dominant...

[Andre]

Ive heard from well placed people that Tua was lazy in training.
Tyson never was in his prime so I say Tyson takes him to the cleaners one way or the other.

Today who knows, may as well set them both into a small concrete block and take bets.

[Wacko3205]

Ive heard from well placed people that Tua was lazy in training.
Tyson never was in his prime so I say Tyson takes him to the cleaners one way or the other.

Today who knows, may as well set them both into a small concrete block and take bets.

Everytime Tua has shown up to fight of late...you can almost see LAZY tatua'd across his belly...& there's enough room there for a capital LAZY!

I honestly don't think that even a prime Tua would have been able to hang with a Tyson prime or just before Lewis blew him out. Tyson still had power & carried more abilities than Tua, IWO.

Here's to 21 :

[Andre]

[jbirdy]

tua was awesome but he wasnt as relentless as tyson. tyson was so quick and threw punches from all angles so fighters didn't know what hit em. to me tua is another nearly man and tyson is a legend.

[DaxxKahn]

and the fact that Ruiz went on to become about a 3 time champ and Tua just kept getting beat when he stepped up says a lot

If he wasn't so slow he would manage to beat a lot more guys

[NuthaPug]

Tua and Tyson (prime both) would have been an excellent matchup - neither could claim height advantage as they are roughly same height. Both have explosive power and one-punch knockout capability.

Tyson has elusiveness (good defense) and speed besides. He should have beat Tua. Of course, as has been pointed out ad nauseum (and it is true) if anyone can get Tyson into late rounds there is always the possibility that Tyson loses heart. He expected to overpower and win early and did that well. Get past that and into more chess than poker and Tyson's a bit befuddled.

Regarding Lewis-Tua, Tua's loss was not due to him not being up and ready. It was due to Lewis' height, power and skill - using his jab to keep the shorter Tua outside his striking range, but always right where Lewis could hit him. Tua lost because Lewis won. Lewis didn't win because Tua lost.

[ICB]

and the fact that Ruiz went on to become about a 3 time champ and Tua just kept getting beat when he stepped up says a lot

If he wasn't so slow he would manage to beat a lot more guys

well u could say same about tyson when he stepped up in class he always got beat aswell he lost the mega fights against douglas lewis holy twice tua is very good fighter and people who say tyson would blow him out in 1st round are totally wrong tua was in war with ike and took ike punches and he threw like 900s punches tua would give tyson hell of a tough fight a possibly could of won with his sort of power tyson is good fighter just not what people make out like he would beat foreman fraizer ect is just nonsense tyson is good but not great