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    Default Re: ali --holmes ---best fantasy fight match ups

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    OK how about these....

    Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Alexis Arguello
    Kostya Tszyu-Aaron Pryor
    Pernell Whittaker-Shane Mosely
    Marvin Hagler-Joe Calzaghe
    Roy Jones Jr.-Michael Nunn
    Harry Greb-Antonio Tarver
    Riddick Bowe-Mike Tyson
    Andrew Golota-James Toney
    Mayweather UD.
    Pryor UD.
    TOO close to call Pernell and Mosley at LW.
    Hagler Stoppage.
    Roy Jones.
    Never saw Greb either.
    Tyson KO.
    Golota at HW when focused.

    Keep them coming Lyle, these are fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cockey cockney
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    OK how about these....

    Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Alexis Arguello
    Kostya Tszyu-Aaron Pryor
    Pernell Whittaker-Shane Mosely
    Marvin Hagler-Joe Calzaghe
    Roy Jones Jr.-Michael Nunn
    Harry Greb-Antonio Tarver
    Riddick Bowe-Mike Tyson
    Andrew Golota-James Toney
    Mayweather UD.
    Pryor UD.
    TOO close to call Pernell and Mosley at LW.
    Hagler Stoppage.
    Roy Jones.
    Never saw Greb either.
    Tyson KO.
    Golota at HW when focused.

    Keep them coming Lyle, these are fun!
    yep very fun its good to see what other people think interesting stuff lyle my list is on page 2 see if u agree with it mate

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    Default Re: ali --holmes ---best fantasy fight match ups

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by stavros693000
    Quote Originally Posted by undefeated
    1.prime ALi-holmes
    2.marciano-dempsey
    3.holmes-frazier
    4.leanord-robinson
    5.robinson-hopkins
    6.prime foreman-prime tyson
    7.tyson-frazier


    ali-holmes...ali wins
    marciano-dempsey...dempsey wins
    holmes-frazier...holmes wins
    leanard-robinson...robinson wins
    robinson-hopkins...robinson wins again!
    prime foreman-prime tyson...tyson wins by way of big KO!
    tyson-frazier...tyson wins 1st rd by way of huge KO tyson would kill frazier IMO!
    tell me ur kidding tyson kos fraizer in 1 plz fraizer is a warrior and if u seriously think that then u well overrate tyson like so many people do
    i dont overrate tyson,man look at there styles,they both come foward but tyson was to aggresive and had heaps more power than frazier it would be similar to marvis vs tyson..if anything u underrate him if u think frazier would ko tyson...sorry ice but ur delusional!

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    dont make me laugh marvis fraizer has been tkoed in 1 round by larry holmes before facing tyson he had glass chin joe fraizer had skills and he had alot more heart and better chin than tyson i still cant believe people think tyson would ko foreman and ko fraizer in 1 round its nonsense i pick fraizer to ko tyson late tyson got exposed by douglas then got beat by holy he was exposed but people say he wasnt in his prime its all nonsense he beat natural light heavy weight who only got the title getting gift decision from past it and older larry holmes he beat berbick who was handled by holmes easy holmes won about 13 rounds out of 15 vs berbick and he beat very old and past it larry holmes but u think he could beat fraizer and foreman by ko ok i think tyson is well overrated let scs roll in i dont care in my book he got exposed even before he lost the title to douglas tillis won about 4 rounds vs tyson in 10 round bout tucker give him hell winning 4 rounds out of the 12 i just dont understand what people see in him i really dont i think he is well overrated

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    Default Re: ali --holmes ---best fantasy fight match ups

    Marvis ain't Joe....Joe had a lot more power and he was a better fighter. OBVIOUSLY

    Joe Frazier beat Muhamed Ali....compare that to anything Tyson ever did and you'll realize just how good Joe was.


    I'm still shocked people think Tyson would KO Foreman....Tyson couldn't even do that TODAY!!! Much less to a PRIME Foreman

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    Jones Holyfield at cruizer, seen both fight at or near these weights and for many this may come as a shock but holy may have been able to outbox roy.. it might have been the first time holy would have been in with someone faster but... it was marginal at this weight and hoyl had a power punch at cruizer
    tyson frazier frazier much toughe rthan tyson but he simply deosnt have to the tools to beat tyson they are alike in that they come straight ahead joe has no boxing ability and gets hit, he slower has only the left and gets hit, tyson by early ko
    tyson foreman Just the opposite foreman early ko, as long as big george can push off tyson cant get inside, tyson stuns easily and he has NEVER been in there with a guy that can hurt you with one punch.
    holyfield, liston holyfield liked bullies.. liston liked to come at you and break you down, holyfield better boxing ability and too much heart.
    ali/tyson Goodmatchup bad fight, if tyson does not koem him (i doubt he could have) ali dominates tyson unlke frazier tyson conceded defeat in all his losses while the bout was in progress.
    riddick bowe prime tyson people dont remember how good a prime bowe was he just flushed it faste than tyson, prime for prime I swear I have a tough one with this one... bowe dominated coming up and only hard a time with holy who, even if tyson had beaten in his prime certainly would have had to walk through the fire to beat him, I lean towards tyson but who knows
    hearns roy jones at middle, One of the few lighter wight fighters i beleive could have beaten jones due to his physical stature and long reach... the chin another story.... but roys chin is also.........
    Prime tyson prime holyfield the match that never was... Not really sure... tyson paper but not confident about it anymore.
    lewis foreman ?
    trinidad duran duran
    hagler toney
    hagler hopkins.. theres just so many more....

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    one fight I would have loved to see is Marvin Hagler vs Michael Spinks. Marvin always talked tough about fighting the welterweights who moved up like Duran and Hearns and Leonard. I just think it would have been fair for him to test himself like they tested themselves against him. Marvin never took the chance and proved he could beat a guy stronger. of those fights you mentioned Arguello would have stopped Floyd,Pryor would beat Tzyzu, Whitaker over Mosley maybe stoppage. Hagler over Calzaghe, and the Nunn/Jones fight is a great fight, The Nunn who beat Frank Tate I might pick over Roy. What a great speed matchup. The thing Roy had over Nunn is power. Bowe over Tyson and Toney over Golota.

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    how about these

    henry armstrong vs aaron pryor
    sugar ray robinson vs thomas hearns
    sugar ray robinson vs marvin hagler
    roberto duran vs julio cesar chavez
    tim witherspoon vs ken norton
    jerry quarry vs tommy morrison
    joe fraizer vs earnie shavers
    joe louis vs larry holmes
    michael spinks vs holyfield at cruiserweight or heavyweight u decide
    gerald mclellan vs hagler
    julian jackson vs nigel benn
    julian jackson vs thomas hearns

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    Armstrong UD he had too much stamina for pretty much anyone
    Robinson 8-10 KO...the best welterweight EVER
    Duran UD...it's tough to call but he just had more mean in him and I think he'd get the more effective punches in
    Norton UD - Ken didn't do well vs big punchers but those were only THE HARDEST punchers Witherspoon was average
    Morrison 4-6 KO - he's too big and hits too hard plus Jerry bled easy
    Frazier 6-8 KO - he'd get knocked down but Earnie wasn't much for stamina
    Louis 10 KO - Holmes would get rocked every once in a while by some suspect punchers....Louis would take him out
    Holyfield KO at cruiser KO at heavy - sure Michael is fast but Holyfield was a dominant force and too strong for him at either weight
    Hagler KO - G-Man got hit too much, and if you get hit by Hagler it's over (replay of Hagler-Hearns)
    Benn KO- Nige gets off the canvas to come back and pull it out late
    Hearns KO-he had too much power

    roy jones vs sugar ray robinson - at 160 Ray, at 175 Roy...both KO's
    lennox lewis vs larry holmes- Lennox Lewis 8th round KO
    ricky hatton vs aaron pryor- Aaron Pryor very big UD...Ricky would get cut up
    joe calzaghe vs nigel benn- Calzaghe UD, his handspeed helps him counter Nigel
    wlad vs lewis- Well I'm split on it but everyone will say Lewis by early KO...I think Wlad would have had a shot though, he hits harder than Vitali
    ray mercer vs tyson - In the mid/late 90's Mercer 9th round TKO, prime for prime Tyson UD
    holyfield vs o neil bell at cruiserweight- Holyfield TKO
    michael watson vs steve collins- Collins UD
    riddick bowe vs lennox lewis- I'm going against the odds and say Bowe by KO




    Here's another list

    Salvador Sanchez-Erik Morales
    Winky Wright-Nigel Benn
    James Toney-Bernard Hopkins
    Roy Jones Jr.-Daruisz Michalczweski
    Joe Calzaghe-Ezzard Charles
    Rocky Marciano-Sonny Liston
    Rocky Marciano-Floyd Patterson
    Michael Moorer-Donovan Rudduck
    Oscar De la Hoya-Ray Leonard
    Oscar De la Hoya-Aaron Pryor

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    Default Re: ali --holmes ---best fantasy fight match ups

    sanchez vs morales= sanchez ud

    wright vs benn= it would be similar to michael watson vs benn with wright covering up blocking hooks and stops him or wins ud

    toney vs hopkins= hopkins ud

    roy jones vs daruisz dichalczweski= ud for jones or he stops him late

    joe calzaghe vs ezzard charles= ud for calzaghe

    marciano vs liston= umm liston drops him early but marciano rallys late to stop liston

    marciano vs patterson= marciano by very quick ko inside of 3

    michael moorer vs ruddock= would be a war i think ruddock has stronger chin and stops moorer round about 7

    oscar vs ray leonard= ray leonard ud but not easy

    oscar vs aaron= aaron to relentless aaron by late stoppage

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