Canelo Álvarez v Jermell Charlo September Thirtieth

[TIC]

When I first heard of this fight I was hyped because I thought it was "mall" not "mell". Now I know it's "mell" then the fight is bullshyt. "Mell" hasn't fought in 2 years and he's never fought at 168. So here we have "mell" skipping a whole division with no time to develop a 168 body or fights to acclimate to that size.

I haven’t heard one non-boxing fan talking about this fight. The All Access has been on YouTube damn near 5 days and only done a million views yesterday. Spence/Crawford All Access did that in a day.

Canelo knocks out "mell" then "mall" comes to avenge his brother

You are confusing your Charlo's
It's easy to do
I've always thought 'Mell was the better boxer
If it wasn't for his "injury" & followed inactivity
I think he'd be on most peoples P4P list
Personally I think too much has been made of the weight difference
Clearly "Mell is not small next to Canelo

I respectfully disagree. I think not enough is made of the weight difference. Jermell has fought at 154 or below his entire career. His record is 35-1-1 with 19 knockouts. Not exactly power numbers... against much smaller guys than Canelo. So it's obvious he's got NO chance to beat Canelo by TKO. Which leaves an opponent dancing around for 12 rounds, hoping not to get caught. It's what happened to Khan. It's what happened to GGG the 3rd time around. Canelo's not the boxing god everyone thinks he is... but he's no bum... and he's got an excellent chin. Knowing he's got nothing to worry about is going to allow him to forget a little about defense and press Charlo relentlessly. There's NO way the fight goes the 12 rounds... and everyone's gonna look at it as some remarkable achievement. When in reality it's just Canelo doing what he was supposed to do. A decision win for Canelo would be a HUGE moral defeat for him. Anything less than a mid to late round KO is an underachievement... and I'm gonna repeat that as many times as I can between now and the fight.

For the same reasons why I have Canelo by 10th round tko, at least. Mell's corner will look at Canelo start to pour it in at about the 6th and not let up as he walks through Charlo... It's gonna get real messy after about 7 or 8 and Charlo's corner will have to stop it to save him.

i've only seen jermell down once as a professional & his chin has looked very solid since but i think canelo gets him late

[J_Undisputed]

ok so just hear me out...just playing devils advocate here... what if there are really no marquis match ups now that crawford took out spence, the bigger charlo isn't ready and canelo doesn't want benavidez .....and Canelo has to carry the smaller charlo so the rematch is worth double and eat up some of that contract? Charlo bolsters his rep so that his fight with Crawford sells and pbc recoups some money there... Bivol, Beterbiev, Crawford are all outside of PBC banner, leaving plant and Benavidez

[Spicoli]

ok so just hear me out...just playing devils advocate here... what if there are really no marquis match ups now that crawford took out spence, the bigger charlo isn't ready and canelo doesn't want benavidez .....and Canelo has to carry the smaller charlo so the rematch is worth double and eat up some of that contract? Charlo bolsters his rep so that his fight with Crawford sells and pbc recoups some money there... Bivol, Beterbiev, Crawford are all outside of PBC banner, leaving plant and Benavidez

It's the Canelo doesn't want (quack quack woddle woddle) Benavidez that sticks in my teeth like a broken toothpick . Perfect scenario for me was flushed down the toilet when Bud and Charlo sold their own legacy paths. Off the Spence win Bud vs Charlo full undisputed was a golden ticket. There is such a gap of if when it comes to Charlo post Canelo. Just struggle seeing a match with Crawford keeping big luster let alone Charlo realistically going back to 154 if he shows well and belts will fracture no doubt. Not to mention win. Can see Crawford leaving himself in limbo as he's made all his mega fight win all about immediate transferring into a career payday and ridiculous 3 division jump while zero storming the gates at 154 (now rather than 1 year out) or even tempting 160 first. Buds next step is going to be very very interesting and telling.

[Primo Carnera]

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Buds next step is going to be very very interesting and telling.

I hope I’m wrong , but I have a sneaky feeling that “should Canelo win” on Saturday , after the fight , the possibility of Bud v Canelo is gonna get some serious traction.
There is only 1 fight out there for Canelo, even before the Charlo fight was signed………………Benavidez. Anything else is conning the fans.

[TitoFan]

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Buds next step is going to be very very interesting and telling.

I hope I’m wrong , but I have a sneaky feeling that “should Canelo win” on Saturday , after the fight , the possibility of Bud v Canelo is gonna get some serious traction.
There is only 1 fight out there for Canelo, even before the Charlo fight was signed………………Benavidez. Anything else is conning the fans.

You have 0.01% chance of being wrong. And since IMO a Canelo win on Saturday is a foregone conclusion... Bud had better get ready for the talk/hype.

Benavidez may as well live on Mars as far as Canelo is concerned.

David will only get in the way of Ginger's ride off into the sunset.

[J_Undisputed]

ok so just hear me out...just playing devils advocate here... what if there are really no marquis match ups now that crawford took out spence, the bigger charlo isn't ready and canelo doesn't want benavidez .....and Canelo has to carry the smaller charlo so the rematch is worth double and eat up some of that contract? Charlo bolsters his rep so that his fight with Crawford sells and pbc recoups some money there... Bivol, Beterbiev, Crawford are all outside of PBC banner, leaving plant and Benavidez

It's the Canelo doesn't want (quack quack woddle woddle) Benavidez that sticks in my teeth like a broken toothpick . Perfect scenario for me was flushed down the toilet when Bud and Charlo sold their own legacy paths. Off the Spence win Bud vs Charlo full undisputed was a golden ticket. There is such a gap of if when it comes to Charlo post Canelo. Just struggle seeing a match with Crawford keeping big luster let alone Charlo realistically going back to 154 if he shows well and belts will fracture no doubt. Not to mention win. Can see Crawford leaving himself in limbo as he's made all his mega fight win all about immediate transferring into a career payday and ridiculous 3 division jump while zero storming the gates at 154 (now rather than 1 year out) or even tempting 160 first. Buds next step is going to be very very interesting and telling.

Definitely agree. As far as the canelo benavidez fight, I definitely think theres opportunity for canelo minus old legs against benavidez. I haven't been super impressed with benavidez. Yes, good had speed and combos, but weight problems, blow problems etc, benavidez is more than beatable. Its a size thing overall i think. Benavidez is what chavez, jr should have been...

Crawford and Charlo, should have been the golden ticket. I think much of that is deliberate though from the PBC side. Charlo looked like he soiled himself when crawford called him out mid spence fight and I think Derrick James, PBC and everyone on that side took umbrage to Crawford ability and intentions that could possibly topple their empire. The charlo/ canelo fight and a possible rematch leaves Crawford in no mans land. Essentially locking him out of the fights he needs/ wants for his meteoric charge towards historic to epic. I'm not big on that go anywhere (weight wise) approach with crawford, either. Even if i understand his age presenting that time sensitive x factor. At the same time, its kind of refreshing to see a fighter conscious of age limitations, and health (yes, we're looking at you roy) without having to take fragile sideshow exhibition route or pillow punching you tubers (yes, we're looking at you Floyd).. I guess i've grown tired of the monotony of ego driven primadonnas fighting once a year a half for multi million dollar purses funded by the casuals, shit talkers at ring side calling for fights and trying to negotiate privately on social media and then walking away from contracts/ the table to stew in silence and inactivity while living off their last paycheck for a lack luster fight, and finally, coked out promoters acting like used car salesman over hyping rookies based on social media followings.. and might actually be getting wood while entertaining a scenario. Where one guy takes out spence (the guy that cares about money --than his health), shuts up the all mouth/ less skilled charlo sisters, and then goes up to an unheard of ridiculous weight and possible takes out the face of boxing... and creates a rip in the time/space continuum that undoes the boxing universe... leaving it to start anew (maybe with a union). Bonus being a red faced floyd trying to argue the fact that his place is boxing history was essentially dwarfed by another fighter in essentially 3 moves because he still has money. - sure there will always be some gen z casual that Will say he ran from Davis (the guy eats 75 dollars worth of candy a week out from a fight) but its par for the course... I'd open a beach chair, drink a beer and revel in the middle of the utter chaos it creates...

[TIC]

[Spicoli]

Honestly the 3 fight undercard is what really makes this one . Barrios at 147 still a question mark but he fills out and physical to match. Rojas v Lubin is a true throwback top contender face off and think we'll find out exactly what fast rising Elijah Garcia is or is not made of v Resendiz. Very solid undercard for once.

[TIC]

prelims

[KickMuck]

I am going to go against the grain on here. I say Canelo wins easy with a dominant display in to the 12th round. On paper the level of opponents, the amount of opponents, The experience at the ripe age of prime 33 vs the experience at the ripe age of 33 of Charlo's history. The weight jump for charlo etc

I will be very surprised if we have an upset tonight but i do love a good upset so i hope charlo can prove me wrong.

[Spicoli]

Without sounding like the old man on his front porch shaking his fist ...do newer fans really fall for this "4 belt era" sell job when talking Canelo. Heard it 5 times during intro so far. News to me but apparently, he's surpassed Hagler, Tyson, Hopkins on and on and on

[TIC]

elijah garcia rocked jose armando resendiz in the first round

[Spicoli]

We have a genuine firefight just two rounds in! Solid 2nd for Resendiz after rocked in 1st. Fun fight.

[TIC]

war of a second round

[Spicoli]

Nose of Garcia leaking beginning 3rd. Like the short compact countering and better head movement of Resendiz 3rd but Garcia has some heavy hands. Both getting clipped no doubt. 2-1