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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by LBSCFC
    any idea what the undercard is like on saturday?
    Ive not got the foggiest idea....anyone else have any information?
    Its on sky sports 2 at 1am this Sunday morning

    Daniel Ponce De Leon, Gerry Penalosa, Demetrius Hopkins and Steve Forbes are all taking part in the Saturday, March 17, Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Juan Manuel Marquez undercard at the Mandalay Bay Events Center, and this is good news for fight fans who often get frustrated that they get one marquee scrap and a crummy slate of support bouts when they buy a PPV.

    Mexican Daniel Ponce De Leon will put his WBO super bantamweight championship on the line against former world champion Gerry Penalosa of the Philippines. And in a junior welterweight showdown with major title implications, Demetrius Hopkins puts his unbeaten record on the line against former world champion and a season two finalist of The Contender, Steve Forbes.

    Ponce De Leon (30-1, 28 KOs) is a native of Chihuahua, Mexico, and the 26-year-old southpaw won his first world title October 29, 2005, when he outpointed Thailand’s previously unbeaten Sod Looknongyangtoy in 12 rounds. After a second round knockout over Gerson Guerrero in his first title defense, De Leon met Looknongyangtoy again last July, but this time, the rapidly improving champion was in fearsome form as he knocked his challenger out in only 52 seconds. In October 2006, De Leon made the third defense of his crown with an eighth round blowout of Al Seeger.

    Gerry Penalosa (51-5-2, 34 KOs), a seasoned southpaw from Manila with close to 18 years as a pro to his name, has gone 5-0 with three knockouts since his return to the ring in 2004 after a two-year layoff. He is a former WBC super flyweight world champion with three defenses under his belt who impressively stopped highly regarded contender Mauricio Martinez in his last outing October 21, 2006.

    The nephew of middleweight legend Bernard Hopkins, Demetrius Hopkins has compiled 25 wins (10 by knockout) with no losses and a single technical draw. The current USBA junior welterweight champion, “The Gladiator” was once seen as strictly a technician in the ring, but with four of his last six wins coming by knockout over topnotch competition, opponents now have to fear Hopkins’ power as well. In his last fight, Hopkins, who is currently ranked No. 2 by the IBF, scored a dominant 12-round decision over Rogelio Castaneda Jr. in November 2006.

    Steve “2 Pounds” Forbes (32-4, 9 KOs) turned pro in 1996 and the Las Vegas resident stepped up in 2000, when he won the vacant IBF world lightweight title by defeating John Brown. He would defend the title once before losing it on the scales before a win over David Santos, and after tough title fight defeats to Carlos Hernandez and Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai, he moved up to 140 pounds. Since 2004, he has won eight of nine fights, with the only loss being a close 10-round split decision to the much bigger Grady Brewer in the finale of The Contender.

    The Barrera vs. Marquez pay-per-view telecast kicks off at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT, and has a suggested retail price of $44.95.

    Tickets to Barrera vs Marquez are priced at $400, $300, $200, $100 and $50. Tickets are sold at any Mandalay Bay box office and all Las Vegas Ticketmaster locations (Smith’s Food and Drug Centers, Macy’ stores and Ritmo Latino). To charge by phone with a major credit card, call the Mandalay Bay box office at (702) 632-7580 or Ticketmaster at (702) 474-4000. Tickets also are available for purchase at www.mandalaybay.com or www.ticketmaster.com.



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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Thank you GAME CC mate

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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Thanks for that posting GAME


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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    CC back guys .

    Ive never known a poll be so close for any fight ever. Its really a pickem in most peoples eyes so Barrera stands to get alot of credit if he wins as does Marquez if he wins. Remember some people were picking Rocky vs Barrera and look how one sided that turned out to be

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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    CC back guys .

    Ive never known a poll be so close for any fight ever. Its really a pickem in most peoples eyes so Barrera stands to get alot of credit if he wins as does Marquez if he wins. Remember some people were picking Rocky vs Barrera and look how one sided that turned out to be
    It is an intriguing fight and is indeed split down the middle to a tee. Bilbo made me a bit edgy in Wacko's thread!

    Some were picking Rocky to win but Juarez is not as good as Marquez by a long shot....

    I cannot wait for this fight, its going to be quality!!!

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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    CC back guys .

    Ive never known a poll be so close for any fight ever. Its really a pickem in most peoples eyes so Barrera stands to get alot of credit if he wins as does Marquez if he wins. Remember some people were picking Rocky vs Barrera and look how one sided that turned out to be
    It is an intriguing fight and is indeed split down the middle to a tee. Bilbo made me a bit edgy in Wacko's thread!

    Some were picking Rocky to win but Juarez is not as good as Marquez by a long shot....

    I cannot wait for this fight, its going to be quality!!!
    Thig is peoples reasons for picking against Marco is that the wars had caught up on him and based on the 1st fight he cant brawl anymore etc etc . How many times does he have to make fools out of people before they accept he isnt washed up . He was written off a decade ago against Jones and ever since he has been upsetting the odds. It would be a shock to me if he came a cropper against a guy like Marquez who has never won a big fight and has recently lost to a nobody Chris John .

    Barrera stated the reasons he boxed vs Juarez . It wasnt cuz he is getting older but he clearly set out to win the fight with his left hand and he has accepted the fans didnt like it . In the 3rd Morales fight he turned the clock back when he needed to and he will do it here

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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    For me, one of the keys to this fight is that Marco has shown that he has that nasty edge to him when he needs it. Marquez, despite his spirited effort against Pac, can be tentative. Both are highly skilled boxers, but for me Marco is just so smart in the ring and is able to box or brawl. He always proves people wrong...and i have feeling he is going to put together another one of his memorable performances. Should be a fantastic fight.

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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Barrera's head is the size of a Jack O' Lantern. Easy target. I think the gourd-headed assassin gets dealt with.

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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    CC back guys .

    Ive never known a poll be so close for any fight ever. Its really a pickem in most peoples eyes so Barrera stands to get alot of credit if he wins as does Marquez if he wins. Remember some people were picking Rocky vs Barrera and look how one sided that turned out to be
    It is an intriguing fight and is indeed split down the middle to a tee. Bilbo made me a bit edgy in Wacko's thread!

    Some were picking Rocky to win but Juarez is not as good as Marquez by a long shot....

    I cannot wait for this fight, its going to be quality!!!
    Thig is peoples reasons for picking against Marco is that the wars had caught up on him and based on the 1st fight he cant brawl anymore etc etc . How many times does he have to make fools out of people before they accept he isnt washed up . He was written off a decade ago against Jones and ever since he has been upsetting the odds. It would be a shock to me if he came a cropper against a guy like Marquez who has never won a big fight and has recently lost to a nobody Chris John .

    Barrera stated the reasons he boxed vs Juarez . It wasnt cuz he is getting older but he clearly set out to win the fight with his left hand and he has accepted the fans didnt like it . In the 3rd Morales fight he turned the clock back when he needed to and he will do it here
    I agree that Marco is not over the hill as some are suggesting, but you do seem to be dismissing Marquez somewhat casually. Barrera will need to be on fire to pull this off convincingly!!

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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    CC back guys .

    Ive never known a poll be so close for any fight ever. Its really a pickem in most peoples eyes so Barrera stands to get alot of credit if he wins as does Marquez if he wins. Remember some people were picking Rocky vs Barrera and look how one sided that turned out to be
    It is an intriguing fight and is indeed split down the middle to a tee. Bilbo made me a bit edgy in Wacko's thread!

    Some were picking Rocky to win but Juarez is not as good as Marquez by a long shot....

    I cannot wait for this fight, its going to be quality!!!
    Thig is peoples reasons for picking against Marco is that the wars had caught up on him and based on the 1st fight he cant brawl anymore etc etc . How many times does he have to make fools out of people before they accept he isnt washed up . He was written off a decade ago against Jones and ever since he has been upsetting the odds. It would be a shock to me if he came a cropper against a guy like Marquez who has never won a big fight and has recently lost to a nobody Chris John .

    Barrera stated the reasons he boxed vs Juarez . It wasnt cuz he is getting older but he clearly set out to win the fight with his left hand and he has accepted the fans didnt like it . In the 3rd Morales fight he turned the clock back when he needed to and he will do it here
    I agree that Marco is not over the hill as some are suggesting, but you do seem to be dismissing Marquez somewhat casually. Barrera will need to be on fire to pull this off convincingly!!
    One thing that could be in Marquez's favour is this is prolly the biggest fight of his career - and we seeng uys in this position before come on and put on a proformance they ar enot usualy capable of doing.

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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Quote Originally Posted by Preme
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    CC back guys .

    Ive never known a poll be so close for any fight ever. Its really a pickem in most peoples eyes so Barrera stands to get alot of credit if he wins as does Marquez if he wins. Remember some people were picking Rocky vs Barrera and look how one sided that turned out to be
    It is an intriguing fight and is indeed split down the middle to a tee. Bilbo made me a bit edgy in Wacko's thread!

    Some were picking Rocky to win but Juarez is not as good as Marquez by a long shot....

    I cannot wait for this fight, its going to be quality!!!
    Thig is peoples reasons for picking against Marco is that the wars had caught up on him and based on the 1st fight he cant brawl anymore etc etc . How many times does he have to make fools out of people before they accept he isnt washed up . He was written off a decade ago against Jones and ever since he has been upsetting the odds. It would be a shock to me if he came a cropper against a guy like Marquez who has never won a big fight and has recently lost to a nobody Chris John .

    Barrera stated the reasons he boxed vs Juarez . It wasnt cuz he is getting older but he clearly set out to win the fight with his left hand and he has accepted the fans didnt like it . In the 3rd Morales fight he turned the clock back when he needed to and he will do it here
    I agree that Marco is not over the hill as some are suggesting, but you do seem to be dismissing Marquez somewhat casually. Barrera will need to be on fire to pull this off convincingly!!
    One thing that could be in Marquez's favour is this is prolly the biggest fight of his career - and we seeng uys in this position before come on and put on a proformance they ar enot usualy capable of doing.
    Again, another interesting tangent....like I say, this amounts to a GREAT boxing match!

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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    CC back guys .

    Ive never known a poll be so close for any fight ever. Its really a pickem in most peoples eyes so Barrera stands to get alot of credit if he wins as does Marquez if he wins. Remember some people were picking Rocky vs Barrera and look how one sided that turned out to be
    It is an intriguing fight and is indeed split down the middle to a tee. Bilbo made me a bit edgy in Wacko's thread!

    Some were picking Rocky to win but Juarez is not as good as Marquez by a long shot....

    I cannot wait for this fight, its going to be quality!!!
    Thig is peoples reasons for picking against Marco is that the wars had caught up on him and based on the 1st fight he cant brawl anymore etc etc . How many times does he have to make fools out of people before they accept he isnt washed up . He was written off a decade ago against Jones and ever since he has been upsetting the odds. It would be a shock to me if he came a cropper against a guy like Marquez who has never won a big fight and has recently lost to a nobody Chris John .

    Barrera stated the reasons he boxed vs Juarez . It wasnt cuz he is getting older but he clearly set out to win the fight with his left hand and he has accepted the fans didnt like it . In the 3rd Morales fight he turned the clock back when he needed to and he will do it here
    I agree that Marco is not over the hill as some are suggesting, but you do seem to be dismissing Marquez somewhat casually. Barrera will need to be on fire to pull this off convincingly!!
    I dont think Barrera will win convincingly , as I said I expect scores of around 115-113 , 116-113, 116-112 so close but it if goes the otherway it would be controversial .

    I'm not dismissing Marquez' chances completely but if we look at it factually . Who has he beaten ? I asked this question earlier and nobody was able to come up with anything . If he was proven at the highest level i'd give him a far better chance but he's never won a superfight so why start now

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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    CC back guys .

    Ive never known a poll be so close for any fight ever. Its really a pickem in most peoples eyes so Barrera stands to get alot of credit if he wins as does Marquez if he wins. Remember some people were picking Rocky vs Barrera and look how one sided that turned out to be
    It is an intriguing fight and is indeed split down the middle to a tee. Bilbo made me a bit edgy in Wacko's thread!

    Some were picking Rocky to win but Juarez is not as good as Marquez by a long shot....

    I cannot wait for this fight, its going to be quality!!!
    Thig is peoples reasons for picking against Marco is that the wars had caught up on him and based on the 1st fight he cant brawl anymore etc etc . How many times does he have to make fools out of people before they accept he isnt washed up . He was written off a decade ago against Jones and ever since he has been upsetting the odds. It would be a shock to me if he came a cropper against a guy like Marquez who has never won a big fight and has recently lost to a nobody Chris John .

    Barrera stated the reasons he boxed vs Juarez . It wasnt cuz he is getting older but he clearly set out to win the fight with his left hand and he has accepted the fans didnt like it . In the 3rd Morales fight he turned the clock back when he needed to and he will do it here
    I agree that Marco is not over the hill as some are suggesting, but you do seem to be dismissing Marquez somewhat casually. Barrera will need to be on fire to pull this off convincingly!!
    I dont think Barrera will win convincingly , as I said I expect scores of around 115-113 , 116-113, 116-112 so close but it if goes treh otherway it would be controversial .

    I'm not dismissing Marquez' chances completely but if we look at it factually . Who has he beaten ? I asked this question earlier and nobody was able to come up with anything . If he was proven at the highest level i'd give him a far better chance but he's never won a superfight so why start now
    Fair comments. My only interjection is that the only major common opponent they have is Pac. We all know the stories surrounding those fights.

    I think Marco can win, but Marquez is the best fighter he has faced in a while...

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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    CC back guys .

    Ive never known a poll be so close for any fight ever. Its really a pickem in most peoples eyes so Barrera stands to get alot of credit if he wins as does Marquez if he wins. Remember some people were picking Rocky vs Barrera and look how one sided that turned out to be
    It is an intriguing fight and is indeed split down the middle to a tee. Bilbo made me a bit edgy in Wacko's thread!

    Some were picking Rocky to win but Juarez is not as good as Marquez by a long shot....

    I cannot wait for this fight, its going to be quality!!!
    Thig is peoples reasons for picking against Marco is that the wars had caught up on him and based on the 1st fight he cant brawl anymore etc etc . How many times does he have to make fools out of people before they accept he isnt washed up . He was written off a decade ago against Jones and ever since he has been upsetting the odds. It would be a shock to me if he came a cropper against a guy like Marquez who has never won a big fight and has recently lost to a nobody Chris John .

    Barrera stated the reasons he boxed vs Juarez . It wasnt cuz he is getting older but he clearly set out to win the fight with his left hand and he has accepted the fans didnt like it . In the 3rd Morales fight he turned the clock back when he needed to and he will do it here
    I agree that Marco is not over the hill as some are suggesting, but you do seem to be dismissing Marquez somewhat casually. Barrera will need to be on fire to pull this off convincingly!!
    I dont think Barrera will win convincingly , as I said I expect scores of around 115-113 , 116-113, 116-112 so close but it if goes treh otherway it would be controversial .

    I'm not dismissing Marquez' chances completely but if we look at it factually . Who has he beaten ? I asked this question earlier and nobody was able to come up with anything . If he was proven at the highest level i'd give him a far better chance but he's never won a superfight so why start now
    I noticed jaxa was able to catch him and land some good blows in the rounds they fought, Barrera is a whole class above jaxa; im still not set on how barrera comes to fight this tho, is the "im going to go to war" a smoke screen to throw the JMM camp, or does he really mean it.

    Marco has been around for so long now and been in the ring with so much class so many times that will be a massive plus for him, his main thing is to come into the fight in the ebst condition he can be in, and if he does that and is hungry i can only see one winner.

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    Default Re: So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    CC back guys .

    Ive never known a poll be so close for any fight ever. Its really a pickem in most peoples eyes so Barrera stands to get alot of credit if he wins as does Marquez if he wins. Remember some people were picking Rocky vs Barrera and look how one sided that turned out to be
    It is an intriguing fight and is indeed split down the middle to a tee. Bilbo made me a bit edgy in Wacko's thread!

    Some were picking Rocky to win but Juarez is not as good as Marquez by a long shot....

    I cannot wait for this fight, its going to be quality!!!
    Thig is peoples reasons for picking against Marco is that the wars had caught up on him and based on the 1st fight he cant brawl anymore etc etc . How many times does he have to make fools out of people before they accept he isnt washed up . He was written off a decade ago against Jones and ever since he has been upsetting the odds. It would be a shock to me if he came a cropper against a guy like Marquez who has never won a big fight and has recently lost to a nobody Chris John .

    Barrera stated the reasons he boxed vs Juarez . It wasnt cuz he is getting older but he clearly set out to win the fight with his left hand and he has accepted the fans didnt like it . In the 3rd Morales fight he turned the clock back when he needed to and he will do it here
    I agree that Marco is not over the hill as some are suggesting, but you do seem to be dismissing Marquez somewhat casually. Barrera will need to be on fire to pull this off convincingly!!
    I dont think Barrera will win convincingly , as I said I expect scores of around 115-113 , 116-113, 116-112 so close but it if goes treh otherway it would be controversial .

    I'm not dismissing Marquez' chances completely but if we look at it factually . Who has he beaten ? I asked this question earlier and nobody was able to come up with anything . If he was proven at the highest level i'd give him a far better chance but he's never won a superfight so why start now
    Fair comments. My only interjection is that the only major common opponent they have is Pac. We all know the stories surrounding those fights.
    Theres Pedan aswel but weve gotta remember Pedan was so ill he was vomiting in the ring when he met Marquez . When he met Barrera he was an established world champ and he got dominated round after round

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