After the beaut of a performance that my guy Kess pulled...what do you think?

[BrooklyniteQueen]

Honestly..?
Froch would have way too much for him and stop him

Do you think one of the reasons Kessler looked impressive was because he had someone with no defense and was flat footed against him?

Didn't joe have the same(but with world title experience) in front of him ?

[Memphis]

Honestly..?
Froch would have way too much for him and stop him

Do you think one of the reasons Kessler looked impressive was because he had someone with no defense and was flat footed against him?

Didn't joe have the same(but with world title experience) in front of him ?

That is the case in a nutshell. Kessler is basking in the same kind of attention Joe received after beating Lacy. Obvioulsy Joes win was on a larger scale due to Lacy bringing so much attention and a world title with him.

How long before this win of Kesslers is written off as predictable?

[Violent Demise]

Honestly..?
Froch would have way too much for him and stop him

Do you think one of the reasons Kessler looked impressive was because he had someone with no defense and was flat footed against him?

Didn't joe have the same(but with world title experience) in front of him ?

That is the case in a nutshell. Kessler is basking in the same kind of attention Joe received after beating Lacy. Obvioulsy Joes win was on a larger scale due to Lacy bringing so much attention and a world title with him.

How long before this win of Kesslers is written off as predictable?

I'll take Andrade over Lacy any day.

[Memphis]

Your not at all obligated to say that then?

[CutMeMick]

Honestly..?
Froch would have way too much for him and stop him

Do you think one of the reasons Kessler looked impressive was because he had someone with no defense and was flat footed against him?

Didn't joe have the same(but with world title experience) in front of him ?

If you go back to page 2 (I think, you can see I clearly stated those things about Andrade) which is not surprising to me cause I have seen plenty of Andrade. What was surprising is that Kess made Andrade looked bad the way he did. Kess mixed it up, instead of jab, overhand right, or hooking right he came with uppercuts, hooks coming up, hooks coming down straight rights I mean he mixed it up.....

Kessler is basking in the same kind of attention Joe received after beating Lacy. Obvioulsy Joes win was on a larger scale due to Lacy bringing so much attention and a world title with him.

You know your right I didn't see it that way untill now..... Very true Memphis...

How long before this win of Kesslers is written off as predictable?

Well MOST people predicted a Kess win I think 'No Contest' was the only one who took Andrade. As I said above it's in the fashion he did it thats impressive and also like I said above I agree this is somewhat like Joe-Lacy.....
Well said Memphis....

[Violent Demise]

Your not at all obligated to say that then?

Of course not.

[Wacko3205]

Honestly..?
Froch would have way too much for him and stop him

Do you think one of the reasons Kessler looked impressive was because he had someone with no defense and was flat footed against him?

Didn't joe have the same(but with world title experience) in front of him ?

That is the case in a nutshell. Kessler is basking in the same kind of attention Joe received after beating Lacy. Obvioulsy Joes win was on a larger scale due to Lacy bringing so much attention and a world title with him.

How long before this win of Kesslers is written off as predictable?

Totally disagree.

Kessler, IWO, has been playing third fiddle for far too long.

He was, again IWHO, Lacy's foil until he got battered like a piece of southern deep fried chicken & he has proven repeatedly that he is more than the hype.

Much more.

Now...if he were to fight Calzaghe & lose...as long as he weren't utterly destroyed then I would be thoroughly proud & call for a rematch. Seriously, there would be no shame in Kess losing if he came back in his next fight & won.

That being said...Andrade had the abilities to hurt Kessler...he wasn't the ruin that he is now be portrayed as...can't most of you just say he lost to the better man instead of picking apart what he was? If he'd won then I'll be most of you'd be doing the same to Kess.

[Memphis]

What part dont you agree with?

Is mad praise being heaped on Kessler just like it was Joe? I think they answer is an emphatic yes. Was Joe's win on a grander scale? Yes it was, titles changed hands and it was an Anglo American clash, always fiesty. Has Joe's win gone from being brilliant, to "yeah but Lacy is shit anyway"? Yes it has in a lot of peoples eyes.

Kessler performed well, Ive already said that, but Andrade was there to look good against.

[cockey cockney]

Ive always rated Kessler to a degree, but before the fight the other nite i was on the fence to whether he was best in the division calibre. But bwoii i now am hard pressed to tell you who i rate higher between him and Calzaghe, a combination of Joe fighting SHITE boxers and Kessler stopping good boxers recently has done this.

[Majesty]

What part dont you agree with?

Is mad praise being heaped on Kessler just like it was Joe? I think they answer is an emphatic yes. Was Joe's win on a grander scale? Yes it was, titles changed hands and it was an Anglo American clash, always fiesty. Has Joe's win gone from being brilliant, to "yeah but Lacy is shit anyway"? Yes it has in a lot of peoples eyes.

Kessler performed well, Ive already said that, but Andrade was there to look good against.

Agree 100 percent.

[smashup]

Alright...the DRBR is below...the poll is above...read this...think...& vote.
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Mikkel Kessler (38 fights with 29 ko's & 0 losses) vs. Librado Andrade (24 fights with 18 ko's & 0 losses) Round 1: Andrade to the body with a feelie jab. Kess tentatively jabs. Andrade comes in swinging. Nice body shots from Andrade. Kessler calm as usual. Big left jab from Kess. Andrade returns that one. 1-2 from Andrarede. Body shots from Andrade. Nice left hoook from Kess. Andrade right back. Right hand from Kess. Body shots by Andrade. Nice exchange. Right from Kess & 1-2 combos. Nice coutner from Kess. Striahgt right from Kess. Andrade nails in a left hook & Kess was hurt briefly. Body shots by Andrade. Kess still calm. Andrade backs Kess off.

Round to Andrade…but it was close.




Mikkel Kessler (38 fights with 29 ko's & 0 losses) vs. Librado Andrade (24 fights with 18 ko's & 0 losses) Round 3: Nice combos from Kessler flush on the button & Andradee chin holds the salvo. Right hand from Andrade. Kessler’s bleeding. Andrade backing Kess off with some effective pressure. Shoulder to shoulder. 4 punch combo from Kess. Right hand from Andrade. Andrade seems to be discouraged already. Andrade throwing sluggish now & my guys sharp. Kess circling & connecting. Body shots from Andrade. Nice double lefts from Kess!!! Boom!!!! Sharpish. Right hook & then a lef tfrom Kess.

Kessler took it to the bank.

Mikkel Kessler (38 fights with 29 ko's & 0 losses) vs. Librado Andrade (24 fights with 18 ko's & 0 losses) Round 4: Sorry everyone about the typing…Wacko’s juiced up. Kessler comes out firing on the button. 30-27 for Kess. Big right from Kess & then a left to follow. Andrade is still bulling in with no effect. Body shot by Andrarde. Andrade’s mouf is wide open. 3 punch combo from Kess. Big left hook & a stiff jab from my guy again. Andrade is still coming in & getting hammered. Nice chin. Amazing accuracy from my guy. Left & right combos straight to the spot. Dboule jab from Andrade.Two right hooks from Kess. Shoulder to shoulder clench. Nice left hook for Andrade. Jab exchange.

Round to Kess.

Mikkel Kessler (38 fights with 29 ko's & 0 losses) vs. Librado Andrade (24 fights with 18 ko's & 0 losses) Round 5: My guy is the TROOF!!! Kess & Andrade echange jabs. Nice hook from Andrade. Dboule left jab from Kess. Upper & a right from Andrade. Kess slipped both. Straight left & big right hook landing @ 47% on all powers. Proud of me guy. Double lef to the body by Andrade. Ncie exchange again. Both men giving all. Clench. Nice righ tfrom Andrade. He’s in the fight. Credit to him…he’s here. Right hand from Kess. I love it. Body shots byA Ndrade. Left hook from Andrade.

Nice. Round to Kess.

Mikkel Kessler (38 fights with 29 ko's & 0 losses) vs. Librado Andrade (24 fights with 18 ko's & 0 losses) Round 6: Jab exchange to start. Body shots & an upper from Andrade. Left hook from Andrade. Andrade bulls in & Kess takes it all. Right & left from Kess. Andrade comes back & backs him off with a combo that was nothing but body pushing body. He’s outmatched. He’s still here…but that aint saying he’s coming on. He’s just pushing. Lef thnad from Andrade. Right hand on the button from Andrade. Left hook from Kess & then a big right & that round goes to Kess again.

Round to my guy.

Mikkel Kessler (38 fights with 29 ko's & 0 losses) vs. Librado Andrade (24 fights with 18 ko's & 0 losses) Round 7: Andrade comes out bulling this round. Andrade seems to have second winded this. Left hook from Andrade. Kessler just calmly cracks him back. Short left hook on the insdie from Kess. Kess cracks him hard. Kessnow using s the jab a lot now. Hook to the body by Andrade. Hard 1-2 from Andrade. Straight double left from Kess. Clench. Body shots by Kess & Andrade racks him back. Great fight. 4 punches in a row from Kess & Andrade felt that. Big right hand from Kess. Love it.

Round to Kizz-Ess-luh.

I hope that all the detractors & Royal haters can now enjoy the marvel of my guy.

Mikkel Kessler (38 fights with 29 ko's & 0 losses) vs. Librado Andrade (24 fights with 18 ko's & 0 losses) Round 8: Kesss comes out firing & Andrade fires right back. Nice right hand on the insdie. Jab from Kess. Body shot by Andrade. Nice combo by Kessler. All on point. Amazing. Lef thook from Andrade & he’s sgetting sloppy & desperate. Kessler fires back & how. He’s so calm. Damn!!!! Nice 1-2 hard to the money spot by Kessler. Andrade is still ther & goes to the body. 1-2 from Kess. Andrade starts using his jab…but Andrade’s shots are becoming telegraphed. 1-2 from Kessler. Body shots from Andrade.

Round to me guy again…the accuracy is beautiful. This may be the traditional Drunken Round by Round…but Kess has sobered me up as usual. Anyone who disrespects…please now take note. My guy is the S***.

Mikkel Kessler (38 fights with 29 ko's & 0 losses) vs. Librado Andrade (24 fights with 18 ko's & 0 losses) Round 9: Andrade comes out trying to work. Big right from Kess. Andrade still comes on. Vicious combo. Hard right hand in there that made ole’ Wacko slosh his liquor drink. Shoulde rto shoulder again. Andrade backs my guy up & then here he comes again. Kessler ties up & then lands a nice inside upper. Right hand from Andrade…no effect on ole’s iron jaw Kess. Andrade opens up…but he’s sluggish & Kess takes it all. Lef thook from Andrade. 6 punches in a row. Big right hand to follow from my guy. Kess just owned him

Round to Kess…again. Andrade was getting that one in his belt & Kess owned him in the last few seconds.

Mikkel Kessler (38 fights with 29 ko's & 0 losses) vs. Librado Andrade (24 fights with 18 ko's & 0 losses) Round 10: Andrade first to exchange. 90-81 for Kessler. Kess jabbing. Andrade jabbing back. Right hook from Andrade. Kess took that like a gnat during a pick nick. Tie up by Kess. Jab from Kessler. Combo from Kess. Body shot by Andrade vicious salvo from My guy followe dby a hard right hook! Boom!!!! Right by Andrade. Pushing Kess back. Kess jabs. Kessler Hard right left combo shakes Andrade. Andrade getting fumble footed. 6 punch combo from Kess. Andrade’s got skills & much chin…but chin don’t make a fight & he‘s getting outskilled..

Competitive round…but still to my guy.

Mikkel Kessler (38 fights with 29 ko's & 0 losses) vs. Librado Andrade (24 fights with 18 ko's & 0 losses) Round 11: Double left hook from Kess. Andrade looks haggered. Body shots by Andrade. Right hand by Andrade. Kess pushes in & hammers him. Andrade backs him out. Nice trade from both. Body shots on the ropes by Kess. Andrade to his credit backs him off. I love it. Andrade is impressing me that he’s stil on his feet. Kesserle tears into him. Andrade slugs back.k Big right hand from Kess as Andrade pushes through. Props to him. Hard right hand! Andrade caught him.

Nice. Much respect to Andrade & even more for my bwoy Kess.

Didn’t I tell ya’;s not to listen to Royal…Kess is worth the pain that we all suffered. I promise. He will bring great things to the sport & he’s good people.

Round to Kess.

Mikkel Kessler (38 fights with 29 ko's & 0 losses) vs. Librado Andrade (24 fights with 18 ko's & 0 losses) Round 12: Ahhhhhhhh man…they hugged it out. Andrade come sout first on the exchange with a weak jab. Kess combo’s biggy time. Clench. Mouthpiece out. Andrade slugs in a few & Kess counters right on the button. Clench & body wrok from Andrade. Andrade fires off bolts & Kess stops him in his tracks with a right! Upper from Kess. Big right hook & upper form Kess. 5 punch combo from Kess on the roeps. Kess is appearing to by hunting for the kO. Both men slugging it out. Upper from Kess. Andrade comes in & get’s hammered & wobbley. Shoulder to shoulder & Kess clocks him at the bell. They slut it out & Hug it out again.

Fwock the haters…I love LOVE LOVE me guy & Andrade just earned me some more respect.

Landslide for Kess. His HBO debut bloomed like a rose compared to Calzaghe.
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I say that my guy is the poop, he's good people, he's got chin, he can box, & he's good for the sport.

What do you think?

Be honest.

Honestly..?
Froch would have way too much for him and stop him

Finally realized what a coward Calzaghe really is, that now your pushing Froch.

Kesslers getting blown up to be something he isn't here i think so let's not get carried away.
Beyer?
Andrade?
Two wide open fighters imo and made him look a LOT better than you seem to think he is.
Don't believe for a second that JC is ducking but simply going the cash route first with a tailor made fight
Can't blame the fella really as he is by no means rich for someone of his incredible 10 year unbeaten reign.
With regard to Froch,i've followed him closely for ages and he's the most exciting Super Middle out there and the one sparking people with his huge power and i've been saying for ages he'll be World champ one day.
Kesslers a slick fighter with great fast combos but has he been in with someone of Joes superior skill and Froch's KO power?

[CutMeMick]

Kesslers getting blown up to be something he isn't here i think so let's not get carried away.

Well this in ONLY the start, I mean his 1st BIG tv appearance, Joe was being blown up waaaayyyyy before he did anything BIG on tv....
Somethings got to come out of his major appearance, you know the way! it was intended to be for Joe when he faced Bika but it didn't happen cause he just didn't have it that night.....

Beyer?
Andrade?
Two wide open fighters imo and made him look a LOT better than you seem to think he is.

Surely you gotta rate Mundine as a prominent opponent, right?
Beyer was there to fight, why not fight him.... Joe decided to fight Bika as his coming out party, who else should Kess have fought? Plus he could pick up another belt if he won so why not?
Andrade wasn't suppose to be wide open, if you see the 1st few rounds Andrade was doing better early. To me as I said it was the bright lights and all that was just to much for Andrade and Kess took advantage of that....

With regard to Froch,i've followed him closely for ages and he's the most exciting Super Middle out there and the one sparking people with his huge power

He is exciting to watch, he looks hungry and ready to go all the time....

i've been saying for ages he'll be World champ one day.

Theres a really good chance of him becoming champ. one day hes def. got the tools to accomplish that...

Kesslers a slick fighter with great fast combos but has he been in with someone of Joes superior skill and Froch's KO power?

About Joe I somewhat agree Joe is superior then Kess in some departments as I replied to paddy448 yesterday.....
About Froch well one can also say who has Froch beat that's better or is more reputable then Mundine, Beyer and Andrade?
Until Froch steps his opponents quality to top 10 to 15 you really can't say much other then the kids got a future.....

[RozzySean]

This fight showed me tons. I didn't know that Kess could move and slip like that. His combos were on point, his defense was good, and he was a much more fluid than I remember seeing him in the past. I don't want to get into the Lacy v Andrade debate. The bottom line is that both Lacy and Andrade are pretty good good fighters, but neither is in the class with Joe or Mikkel. This fight shows clearly that Calzaghe and Kessler are head and shoulders above anyone else in that division. We mostly knew that before. Now we REALLY know it.

HBO isn't THAT stupid. Now that we here in the US have seen a little of Kessler (and been impressed) and Joe fights Manfredo, a fight later this year between Calzaghe and Kessler has much bigger potential. This fight is going to be made unless Joe proves himself to the bitch of all bitchs. Personally, I still have a little faith in Joe and I think this fight is going to happen. The Andrade fight was a great coming out party for Kess and it well sets up a showdown with Joe. I can't wait.

[Wacko3205]

Kesslers getting blown up to be something he isn't here i think so let's not get carried away.
Beyer?
Andrade?
Two wide open fighters imo and made him look a LOT better than you seem to think he is.
Don't believe for a second that JC is ducking but simply going the cash route first with a tailor made fight
Can't blame the fella really as he is by no means rich for someone of his incredible 10 year unbeaten reign.
With regard to Froch,i've followed him closely for ages and he's the most exciting Super Middle out there and the one sparking people with his huge power and i've been saying for ages he'll be World champ one day.
Kesslers a slick fighter with great fast combos but has he been in with someone of Joes superior skill and Froch's KO power?

Please. Froch's the one who's getting blown up.

You act like Froch's a world beater when he's only dismantling has been contenders. Froch's first 5 opponents had 186 losses between them...his last 5 opponents had 21 losses between them & hardly reputable names.

Kessler? 11 & 14.

Sure...everyone's gotta start somewhere & there are descrepencies abound...but none as laughable as those.

I think it's easy to see who's being fed a steady diet of "whut-evuh!" on this one. Support your fighter...but gotdam...let's keep it real.

[Fenster]

Kesslers getting blown up to be something he isn't here i think so let's not get carried away.
Beyer?
Andrade?
Two wide open fighters imo and made him look a LOT better than you seem to think he is.
Don't believe for a second that JC is ducking but simply going the cash route first with a tailor made fight
Can't blame the fella really as he is by no means rich for someone of his incredible 10 year unbeaten reign.
With regard to Froch,i've followed him closely for ages and he's the most exciting Super Middle out there and the one sparking people with his huge power and i've been saying for ages he'll be World champ one day.
Kesslers a slick fighter with great fast combos but has he been in with someone of Joes superior skill and Froch's KO power?

Please. Froch's the one who's getting blown up.

You act like Froch's a world beater when he's only dismantling has been contenders. Froch's first 5 opponents had 186 losses between them...his last 5 opponents had 21 losses between them & hardly reputable names.

Kessler? 11 & 14.

Sure...everyone's gotta start somewhere & there are descrepencies abound...but none as laughable as those.

I think it's easy to see who's being fed a steady diet of "whut-evuh!" on this one. Support your fighter...but gotdam...let's keep it real.

Kessler's first 5 opponents had 48 fights between them. Froch's had 250. All your numbers show is Froch started his career against experienced journeymen, Kessler started against fellow novices.

And using current form lines Froch has the beating of Kessler.

Froch beat Henry Porras quicker than Kessler. Kessler beat a guy - Andre Thysse - in 11 that Brian Magee beat in 10. Froch STOPPED Brian Magee.