Tale of the Tape. Oscar De La Hoya Vs Felix Trinidad

[Taeth]

It would of been hard for any fighter to beat Tito at his proper weight class he had good punching power but sometimes i feel he was bit one dimensional but he still was great boxer who fought all comers that should of never moved up to 160

Oscar beat him at his weightclass.

[Puya]

I'm just glad I was Alive and interested in the sport of boxing to witness this to great fighters.

fuck the competition both legacy's are great. As far as Hopkins( piece of shit, talented boxing abilities , granite chin) they where doing great. For me Hopkins at 160 is like Tito at 147 very hard to beat because he is so strong in that weight LOL "A Monstor for his weight"

So I won't debate about their legacy's, Even the fight between them was close despite of the result IT could easily been called a draw, SD for OScar or he way it was called.

[VictorCharlie]

Both of these guys are awesome. I lean towards ODH. I felt he got robbed against Felix. I think he is the more complete fighter and at 135 was phenomenal. Even in ODH's losses I never felt he was ever outclassed. I thought he was being competitive against BHop when the KO happened. That being said Wright and BHop completely outclassed Tito. From 135-154 I feel like there has never been a fighter that would completely dominate ODH b/c of his versatitlity, obviously there are fighters w/ certain skill sets and styles that can dominate Tito.

[The Rookie Fan]

The problem with Tito is that he fell in love with his punching power, just as we the fans did, and forgot how to box. Watch his early fights at 147. He had a very strong jab and side to side movements. He alwais came forward but he did in angles and he put together great combos to the body and the head. Somewere along the line he lost that.

Think what would have happend if he had fired his dad and hired a real boxing trainer. Someone who would teach him and tell him the trueth in that ring.

DLH in the other hand is a great fighter who also had the right trainers and was alwais the smarter man. But I did not like the fact that he made his name by beating people past their prime (Whitaker, Camacho, Chaves, Campas, Vargas, Mayorga). No he was never dominated like Tito was, but nither did he ever dominate any of the big names he faught in his prime. In fact every time he faught a big name in his prime he eather lost or won a very very very close controversial disicion. (Mously, B-Hop, past-his-prime-Whitaker, Trinidad, Quartey and BS-champ-Sturm who was robbed so that Oscar could get his sixed title)

The Trinidad - DLH fight was somewhat disapointing to me. Up till that point Tito had never looked so bad. Oscar showed great boxing skills but also showed a lack of hart and willingness to do what it takes to be a champion. The fight was very, very close. For those of you who think DLH won the first 9 rounds please whatch the first 5 rounds again. The fight was close to even at this point. Oscar clearly won the next 4 and Tito clearly won the last 3 but it was those first 5 rounds that made the fight. I think it should have been a draw and they should have faught again.

However, Tito is retired and DLH is not done yet. A win against PBF would fiinaly give him that big name in his prime. I, for one think Oscar will be too big for PBF and we shall see a late round stoppage that will launch DLH into boxing immortality. A big win like this would most likely put him a nudge above Tito in the Legacy department. This also demonstrates again the smart man the DLH is.

With that said, I still believe in my hart that if there ever was a rematch, Tito would win simply because DLH would be determined not to make the same mistake and he will give Tito a lot of chances to catch him. DLH is not the defensive genious that is Wright or master tactitian that is B-Hop, he will get hit and we all know what happends when you get hit by Tito...you go down.

As for the hand wrappings. I have never read the NYSAC rules on handwrapping nither have I seen an official complaint made by the NYSAC against Trinidad, nither have I ever heard of another boxer complain except for Hopkins. All I have seen is this article by Ron Heard. Until I see something more than how am I to know who is right and who is wrong on this issue. I can't and nither can you or anybody else.

Sorry, that was longer than I planned LOL

[THE THIRD MAN]

The problem with Tito is that he fell in love with his punching power, just as we the fans did, and forgot how to box. Watch his early fights at 147. He had a very strong jab and side to side movements. He alwais came forward but he did in angles and he put together great combos to the body and the head. Somewere along the line he lost that.

Think what would have happend if he had fired his dad and hired a real boxing trainer. Someone who would teach him and tell him the trueth in that ring.

DLH in the other hand is a great fighter who also had the right trainers and was alwais the smarter man. But I did not like the fact that he made his name by beating people past their prime (Whitaker, Camacho, Chaves, Campas, Vargas, Mayorga). No he was never dominated like Tito was, but nither did he ever dominate any of the big names he faught in his prime. In fact every time he faught a big name in his prime he eather lost or won a very very very close controversial disicion. (Mously, B-Hop, past-his-prime-Whitaker, Trinidad, Quartey and BS-champ-Sturm who was robbed so that Oscar could get his sixed title)

The Trinidad - DLH fight was somewhat disapointing to me. Up till that point Tito had never looked so bad. Oscar showed great boxing skills but also showed a lack of hart and willingness to do what it takes to be a champion. The fight was very, very close. For those of you who think DLH won the first 9 rounds please whatch the first 5 rounds again. The fight was close to even at this point. Oscar clearly won the next 4 and Tito clearly won the last 3 but it was those first 5 rounds that made the fight. I think it should have been a draw and they should have faught again.

However, Tito is retired and DLH is not done yet. A win against PBF would fiinaly give him that big name in his prime. I, for one think Oscar will be too big for PBF and we shall see a late round stoppage that will launch DLH into boxing immortality. A big win like this would most likely put him a nudge above Tito in the Legacy department. This also demonstrates again the smart man the DLH is.

With that said, I still believe in my hart that if there ever was a rematch, Tito would win simply because DLH would be determined not to make the same mistake and he will give Tito a lot of chances to catch him. DLH is not the defensive genious that is Wright or master tactitian that is B-Hop, he will get hit and we all know what happends when you get hit by Tito...you go down.

As for the hand wrappings. I have never read the NYSAC rules on handwrapping nither have I seen an official complaint made by the NYSAC against Trinidad, nither have I ever heard of another boxer complain except for Hopkins. All I have seen is this article by Ron Heard. Until I see something more than how am I to know who is right and who is wrong on this issue. I can't and nither can you or anybody else.

Sorry, that was longer than I planned LOL

Watched the first five rounds again, at best the first round is even then it's all De La Hoya
who never boxed so well in his life.

[TitoFan]

Felix Trinidad Oscar De La Hoya


Career record 42-2 35 KO'S 38-4 30 KO'S

Career Highlights 16 WW Title defenses (record) Gold Medal Winner (92)
Titles in three weight classes Titles in six weight classes (record)


Common Opponents (UD 12) Hector Camancho (UD 12)
(TKO Oba Carr (TKO 11)
(TKO 4) Yori Boy Campus (TKO 7)
(UD 12) Pernell Whitaker (UD 12)
(TKO Ricardo Mayorga (TKO 6)
(TKO 12) Fernando Vargas (TKO 11)
(lossKo 12)Bernard Hopkins (lossKO 9)
Trindad winner in head to head match up.


Both had let down's against Hopkins but both of them were undersized and should not have taken fights in that weight class. Trindad did the bulk of the work on common opponents defeating Campus, Carr, and Vargas while still undefeated. He also took on Mayorga when he was still in his prime. What's strange to me is that niether of these phenoms were able to KO Camancho. I felt that Tito was the better athlete between the two and Oscar was better skilled due to better trainer's. Wish we could have had a trilogy with these two great fighters. Very small chance they will ever meet in the square circle again. Sound off on who impressed you more.

Great comparison of stats, brazilianbomber. CC for that. One detail you forgot to mention was how, speaking of Tito's and Oscar's common opponents, Tito usually got to them first. Several of Oscar's victories against these opponents came after they had suffered devastating KO's at the hands of Tito. There was an excellent article on this subject posted on another site a while back, which I posted here some time ago.

And although they both were unsuccessful at 160, particularly against Hopkins, Tito did KO William Joppy rather impressively in his first fight at that weight, while Oscar got handed a gift decision over Felix Sturm.

Both were exciting to watch, both are future Hall of Famers, but (and of course, I'm biased) to me the edge goes to Tito.