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    Default The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!

    To me it's obvious. Frank Warren is a money making machine and is looking to put on the biggest boxing undercards people will pay to see against S*** opposition to keep his fighters records intact. Think about it, Warren only puts on about 4 or 5 televised cards a year (if not less) on ITV. That's F*** all for a boxing promoter really.

    A fighter like Enzo Maccranelli should've been headlining his own card 2 or 3 fights ago yet he's guaranteed to be propping up a Calzaghe card unless Joe pulls out injured! Warren in turn can put more spin on a 'Welsh boxing show' to make the fans travel up from Swansea and perhaps further afield thus making his fighters look more popular with a sell out crowd. Amir Khan appears on every ITV boxing show and adds support to the line up and boxing supporters aswell as the casual fan will tune in to see his progress.

    All it boils down to is that Warren has a date pencilled in for July that ties in with all his other 'big name' fighters. It's a cheap and easy way of making more money and claiming the big fighters wont fight his men when they refuse to fight on a date he is dictating!

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    Default Re: The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu
    To me it's obvious. Frank Warren is a money making machine and is looking to put on the biggest boxing undercards people will pay to see against S*** opposition to keep his fighters records intact. Think about it, Warren only puts on about 4 or 5 televised cards a year (if not less) on ITV. That's F*** all for a boxing promoter really.

    A fighter like Enzo Maccranelli should've been headlining his own card 2 or 3 fights ago yet he's guaranteed to be propping up a Calzaghe card unless Joe pulls out injured! Warren in turn can put more spin on a 'Welsh boxing show' to make the fans travel up from Swansea and perhaps further afield thus making his fighters look more popular with a sell out crowd. Amir Khan appears on every ITV boxing show and adds support to the line up and boxing supporters aswell as the casual fan will tune in to see his progress.

    All it boils down to is that Warren has a date pencilled in for July that ties in with all his other 'big name' fighters. It's a cheap and easy way of making more money and claiming the big fighters wont fight his men when they refuse to fight on a date he is dictating!
    enzo is only 26 - Yes he could be headlining his own fights and getting a lil more money, but WHY when he can be the main undercard for Joe, get on HBO NOW!

    Kessler is free for July....

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    Default Re: The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!

    Quote Originally Posted by Preme
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu
    To me it's obvious. Frank Warren is a money making machine and is looking to put on the biggest boxing undercards people will pay to see against S*** opposition to keep his fighters records intact. Think about it, Warren only puts on about 4 or 5 televised cards a year (if not less) on ITV. That's F*** all for a boxing promoter really.

    A fighter like Enzo Maccranelli should've been headlining his own card 2 or 3 fights ago yet he's guaranteed to be propping up a Calzaghe card unless Joe pulls out injured! Warren in turn can put more spin on a 'Welsh boxing show' to make the fans travel up from Swansea and perhaps further afield thus making his fighters look more popular with a sell out crowd. Amir Khan appears on every ITV boxing show and adds support to the line up and boxing supporters aswell as the casual fan will tune in to see his progress.

    All it boils down to is that Warren has a date pencilled in for July that ties in with all his other 'big name' fighters. It's a cheap and easy way of making more money and claiming the big fighters wont fight his men when they refuse to fight on a date he is dictating!
    enzo is only 26 - Yes he could be headlining his own fights and getting a lil more money, but WHY when he can be the main undercard for Joe, get on HBO NOW!

    Kessler is free for July....
    one can only hope......
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    Default Re: The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!

    Quote Originally Posted by Preme
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu
    To me it's obvious. Frank Warren is a money making machine and is looking to put on the biggest boxing undercards people will pay to see against S*** opposition to keep his fighters records intact. Think about it, Warren only puts on about 4 or 5 televised cards a year (if not less) on ITV. That's F*** all for a boxing promoter really.

    A fighter like Enzo Maccranelli should've been headlining his own card 2 or 3 fights ago yet he's guaranteed to be propping up a Calzaghe card unless Joe pulls out injured! Warren in turn can put more spin on a 'Welsh boxing show' to make the fans travel up from Swansea and perhaps further afield thus making his fighters look more popular with a sell out crowd. Amir Khan appears on every ITV boxing show and adds support to the line up and boxing supporters aswell as the casual fan will tune in to see his progress.

    All it boils down to is that Warren has a date pencilled in for July that ties in with all his other 'big name' fighters. It's a cheap and easy way of making more money and claiming the big fighters wont fight his men when they refuse to fight on a date he is dictating!
    enzo is only 26 - Yes he could be headlining his own fights and getting a lil more money, but WHY when he can be the main undercard for Joe, get on HBO NOW!

    Kessler is free for July....
    Kessler is probably free, but since when does a big fight come off within 3 months these days?

    Why not simply agree a date in September? A mutually agreed frame of time with plenty of time to get organised on both sides?

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    Default Re: The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by Preme
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu
    To me it's obvious. Frank Warren is a money making machine and is looking to put on the biggest boxing undercards people will pay to see against S*** opposition to keep his fighters records intact. Think about it, Warren only puts on about 4 or 5 televised cards a year (if not less) on ITV. That's F*** all for a boxing promoter really.

    A fighter like Enzo Maccranelli should've been headlining his own card 2 or 3 fights ago yet he's guaranteed to be propping up a Calzaghe card unless Joe pulls out injured! Warren in turn can put more spin on a 'Welsh boxing show' to make the fans travel up from Swansea and perhaps further afield thus making his fighters look more popular with a sell out crowd. Amir Khan appears on every ITV boxing show and adds support to the line up and boxing supporters aswell as the casual fan will tune in to see his progress.

    All it boils down to is that Warren has a date pencilled in for July that ties in with all his other 'big name' fighters. It's a cheap and easy way of making more money and claiming the big fighters wont fight his men when they refuse to fight on a date he is dictating!
    enzo is only 26 - Yes he could be headlining his own fights and getting a lil more money, but WHY when he can be the main undercard for Joe, get on HBO NOW!

    Kessler is free for July....
    Kessler is probably free, but since when does a big fight come off within 3 months these days?

    Why not simply agree a date in September? A mutually agreed frame of time with plenty of time to get organised on both sides?
    i thought ti sounded a bit soon as well,

    They are still fresh in the states now so a fast fight would keep the interest alive...

    Joe is going on 36, does almost no sparring so keeping him fighting soon would benefit him rather than long lay offs (also gets a name like kessler out of the way for a match with hopkins or what not after the winky fight...)

    Neither fighter has sustained anything that needs them to have a lay off, so really, there is no reason why they can't meet in July?

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    Default Re: The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!

    Quote Originally Posted by Preme
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by Preme
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu
    To me it's obvious. Frank Warren is a money making machine and is looking to put on the biggest boxing undercards people will pay to see against S*** opposition to keep his fighters records intact. Think about it, Warren only puts on about 4 or 5 televised cards a year (if not less) on ITV. That's F*** all for a boxing promoter really.

    A fighter like Enzo Maccranelli should've been headlining his own card 2 or 3 fights ago yet he's guaranteed to be propping up a Calzaghe card unless Joe pulls out injured! Warren in turn can put more spin on a 'Welsh boxing show' to make the fans travel up from Swansea and perhaps further afield thus making his fighters look more popular with a sell out crowd. Amir Khan appears on every ITV boxing show and adds support to the line up and boxing supporters aswell as the casual fan will tune in to see his progress.

    All it boils down to is that Warren has a date pencilled in for July that ties in with all his other 'big name' fighters. It's a cheap and easy way of making more money and claiming the big fighters wont fight his men when they refuse to fight on a date he is dictating!
    enzo is only 26 - Yes he could be headlining his own fights and getting a lil more money, but WHY when he can be the main undercard for Joe, get on HBO NOW!

    Kessler is free for July....
    Kessler is probably free, but since when does a big fight come off within 3 months these days?

    Why not simply agree a date in September? A mutually agreed frame of time with plenty of time to get organised on both sides?
    i thought ti sounded a bit soon as well,

    They are still fresh in the states now so a fast fight would keep the interest alive...

    Joe is going on 36, does almost no sparring so keeping him fighting soon would benefit him rather than long lay offs (also gets a name like kessler out of the way for a match with hopkins or what not after the winky fight...)

    Neither fighter has sustained anything that needs them to have a lay off, so really, there is no reason why they can't meet in July?
    it makes sense...it wasn't like Joe C or Kessler are coming off WARS in the ring....3 months should be plenty of time for either....and it's less time for Joe C's hands to get injured.....
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    Default Re: The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by Preme
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu
    To me it's obvious. Frank Warren is a money making machine and is looking to put on the biggest boxing undercards people will pay to see against S*** opposition to keep his fighters records intact. Think about it, Warren only puts on about 4 or 5 televised cards a year (if not less) on ITV. That's F*** all for a boxing promoter really.

    A fighter like Enzo Maccranelli should've been headlining his own card 2 or 3 fights ago yet he's guaranteed to be propping up a Calzaghe card unless Joe pulls out injured! Warren in turn can put more spin on a 'Welsh boxing show' to make the fans travel up from Swansea and perhaps further afield thus making his fighters look more popular with a sell out crowd. Amir Khan appears on every ITV boxing show and adds support to the line up and boxing supporters aswell as the casual fan will tune in to see his progress.

    All it boils down to is that Warren has a date pencilled in for July that ties in with all his other 'big name' fighters. It's a cheap and easy way of making more money and claiming the big fighters wont fight his men when they refuse to fight on a date he is dictating!
    enzo is only 26 - Yes he could be headlining his own fights and getting a lil more money, but WHY when he can be the main undercard for Joe, get on HBO NOW!

    Kessler is free for July....
    Kessler is probably free, but since when does a big fight come off within 3 months these days?

    Why not simply agree a date in September? A mutually agreed frame of time with plenty of time to get organised on both sides?
    Oh and lets not forget the WBO will be forcing calzaghe to make a mandatory some time soon, so waiting to long could throw fights like kessler or taylor out of the window with Joe havent to face some crap mandatory fight...

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    Default Re: The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!

    Well then screw it, I want the fight for July then!!

    If we could only terminate these promoters then we all have a fight on our hands!!! Im sure Calzaghe and Kessler would love to hammer it out once and for all! Damn these businessmen opportunists!

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    Default Re: The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Well then screw it, I want the fight for July then!!

    If we could only terminate these promoters then we all have a fight on our hands!!! Im sure Calzaghe and Kessler would love to hammer it out once and for all! Damn these businessmen opportunists!
    im just shocked palle hasn't countered yet - wont be much longer before he claims something as well.

    I swear, they need to get like a member of the HBO news team,s it te fuck down talk it out and then if it breaks down we will know WHY!

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    Default Re: The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Well then screw it, I want the fight for July then!!

    If we could only terminate these promoters then we all have a fight on our hands!!! Im sure Calzaghe and Kessler would love to hammer it out once and for all! Damn these businessmen opportunists!
    it's crap like this that makes boxing drop in ratings....when the best don't fight the best....I know the UFC is subpar but at least they do their best to pit the two best subpar fighters against each other
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    Default Re: The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!

    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigragu
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Well then screw it, I want the fight for July then!!

    If we could only terminate these promoters then we all have a fight on our hands!!! Im sure Calzaghe and Kessler would love to hammer it out once and for all! Damn these businessmen opportunists!
    it's crap like this that makes boxing drop in ratings....when the best don't fight the best....I know the UFC is subpar but at least they do their best to pit the two best subpar fighters against each other
    Agreed. It sucks each and every way you look at it. You've probably got two very hungry fighters out there but surrounded by a couple of sycophantic promoters anxious not to lose out on their share of the money.

    Its bad for boxing, no doubt about it. All we can do is wait and see...

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    Default Re: The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!



    Agreed. It sucks each and every way you look at it. You've probably got two very hungry fighters out there but surrounded by a couple of sycophantic promoters anxious not to lose out on their share of the money.

    Its bad for boxing, no doubt about it. All we can do is wait and see...

    [/quote]hopefully we won't have to wait past July for an answer...or fight for that matter!!
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    Default Re: The REAL reason why Warren wont Make Calzaghe Vs Kessler in July!

    I thought the real reason was Kessler bottled it, no? FW offered them the fight in July and they turned it down.

    If Kessler (Mogens Palle) wanted Calzaghe so bad why would they turn it down when the oppotunity was there?
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