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    Default Will De La Hoya-Mayweather live up to the hype? I doubt it.


    As monster anticipation builds for Mayweather-De La Hoya, the actual fight may not live up to the hype. If styles, in fact, make fights, this one could be a tactical bore. I see Mayweather sticking and moving a frustrated and slower Oscar on his way to a 12 round boring decision win.One thing is certain; it will not be Hearns-Hagler or Leonard-Hearns….at least in my opinion. I



    Hagler-Hearns…

    In April 1985, these two participated in a super fight. The formidable Tommy Hearns was a devastating puncher who ruled the welterweight (147 pounds) and cruiserweight (189) divisions through the 80s and 90s. The War was the nickname given by promoter Bob Arum to this fight. At stake were the WBC, WBA, and IBF Middleweight Titles.

    Unlike, Tyson-Lewis or Hagler-Leonard, this one lived up to expectations and was indeed a super fight in every sense of the phrase. This was World War One in the trenches. Maybe the most explosive first round in boxing history; simply unbelievable stuff. Many called it the “greatest three rounds in boxing history.” Hearns won the first round in ebb and flow malice aforethought, but Marvelous Marvin won the fight by savage ko in the third putting an end to the unmitigated violence.


    Hearns-Leonard…

    On September the 16, 1981, Sugar Ray and Tommy Hearns were paid handsomely as they put their titles on the line in an effort to unify the welterweight championship in Las Vegas. This one lived up to its expectations as Ray took an early lead only to surrender momentum to Hearns in a classic ebb and flow battle. With a loss staring him squarely in the eye (Angelo Dundee told him, "your blowing it son, your blowing it!" ), Sugar Ray reached down in the 13th and took it to the exhausted “Hitman” with savage shots both upstairs and to Tommy’s thin body. All of a sudden, Ray became the "Hitman" and decked Tommy. Showing great heart, Tommy held his own in the 14th until Ray cut loose with a big right followed by a brutal volley of unanswered punches to bring matters to a decisive and breathtaking close. Leonard was now the undisputed welterweight champion of the world.


    I doubt we will be seeing this on May 5.

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    Default Re: Will De La Hoya-Mayweather live up to the hype? I doubt it.

    I agree it wont be a Hagler-Hearns, Morales-Barrea or a Corrales-Castillo but it will be great, just not an epic battle.

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    Default Re: Will De La Hoya-Mayweather live up to the hype? I doubt it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ted The Bull

    As monster anticipation builds for Mayweather-De La Hoya, the actual fight may not live up to the hype. If styles, in fact, make fights, this one could be a tactical bore. I see Mayweather sticking and moving a frustrated and slower Oscar on his way to a 12 round boring decision win.One thing is certain; it will not be Hearns-Hagler or Leonard-Hearns….at least in my opinion. I



    Hagler-Hearns…

    In April 1985, these two participated in a super fight. The formidable Tommy Hearns was a devastating puncher who ruled the welterweight (147 pounds) and cruiserweight (189) divisions through the 80s and 90s. The War was the nickname given by promoter Bob Arum to this fight. At stake were the WBC, WBA, and IBF Middleweight Titles.

    Unlike, Tyson-Lewis or Hagler-Leonard, this one lived up to expectations and was indeed a super fight in every sense of the phrase. This was World War One in the trenches. Maybe the most explosive first round in boxing history; simply unbelievable stuff. Many called it the “greatest three rounds in boxing history.” Hearns won the first round in ebb and flow malice aforethought, but Marvelous Marvin won the fight by savage ko in the third putting an end to the unmitigated violence.


    Hearns-Leonard…

    On September the 16, 1981, Sugar Ray and Tommy Hearns were paid handsomely as they put their titles on the line in an effort to unify the welterweight championship in Las Vegas. This one lived up to its expectations as Ray took an early lead only to surrender momentum to Hearns in a classic ebb and flow battle. With a loss staring him squarely in the eye (Angelo Dundee told him, "your blowing it son, your blowing it!" ), Sugar Ray reached down in the 13th and took it to the exhausted “Hitman” with savage shots both upstairs and to Tommy’s thin body. All of a sudden, Ray became the "Hitman" and decked Tommy. Showing great heart, Tommy held his own in the 14th until Ray cut loose with a big right followed by a brutal volley of unanswered punches to bring matters to a decisive and breathtaking close. Leonard was now the undisputed welterweight champion of the world.


    I doubt we will be seeing this on May 5.
    This will be no Hagler-Hearns type of fight. If you're looking for something like that, then yes, you will be disappointed. (BTW, I have to list Hagler first. I just have to.)

    However, I do not see it as a technical bore. Not at all. De La Hoya is going to stalk Mayweather and, if he does not catch him early, attack him furiously as the fight wears on. This will not turn into a Hagler-Hearns fight simply because it is extremely unlikely that Mayweather will be able to significantly hurt De La Hoya. Floyd will fight to win points and keep Oscar at bay, not to win by ko.

    I don't see it happening, but if what some people are predicting is true and Floyd is able to move, evade, and frustrate Oscar enough to win this fight, then it could turn into a back and forth, ebb and flow type of battle as in Hearns-Leonard. Personally, I have difficulty believing that Mayweather could withstand more than one of De La Hoya's flows in order to make this a reality, although I am willing to concede it's possibility.

    Honestly, I have felt that this fight is a mismatch from the very beginning. A mismatch in the favor of De La Hoya. As the fight nears, I feel it even more strongly. I believe the world is going to see De La Hoya like we have not seen him in ten years. Agressive, attacking, and determined to take out his weaker opponent in convincing fashion. Mayweather will either succumb, or have to run most of the fight just to survive.

    Since I believe it is much more likely Floyd will succumb, I look forward to an exciting fight...while it lasts. If the latter is true, yes, it could turn out to be boring and disappointing. Let's hope.

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    Default Re: Will De La Hoya-Mayweather live up to the hype? I doubt it.

    it's not going to be a classic fight, hell, it probably wont even be a good fight but its hugely significant and thats what matters most

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    Default Re: Will De La Hoya-Mayweather live up to the hype? I doubt it.

    I have to say that my expectations are very high for this fight. Sure, 'on paper' this looks like there will be the typical clash of opposing styles which will force the contest into a tactical battle. Even if this is the case, it will be a mesmerising fight. To see two fighters of such esteemed quality in the ring together seems to be something that has been sadly lacking of late. There have been some great fights recently, but it seems that all too often the megafights such as this fail to materialise due to the usual promo-political bullshit.

    For De La Hoya, he will know that winning this fight will silence the remainder of his critics and add weight to his status as one of the greatest fighters ever to grace the ring. I fully expect Oscar to come out 'all guns blazing' and not stop until the job is done. Speed has been an issue for Oscar before, but then again Floyd has never faced an opponent with the technical prowess of De La Hoya. Hype isn't an issue, this fight sells itself. Bring it on, I can't wait!

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    Default Re: Will De La Hoya-Mayweather live up to the hype? I doubt it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo
    I have to say that my expectations are very high for this fight. Sure, 'on paper' this looks like there will be the typical clash of opposing styles which will force the contest into a tactical battle. Even if this is the case, it will be a mesmerising fight. To see two fighters of such esteemed quality in the ring together seems to be something that has been sadly lacking of late. There have been some great fights recently, but it seems that all too often the megafights such as this fail to materialise due to the usual promo-political bullshit.

    For De La Hoya, he will know that winning this fight will silence the remainder of his critics and add weight to his status as one of the greatest fighters ever to grace the ring. I fully expect Oscar to come out 'all guns blazing' and not stop until the job is done. Speed has been an issue for Oscar before, but then again Floyd has never faced an opponent with the technical prowess of De La Hoya. Hype isn't an issue, this fight sells itself. Bring it on, I can't wait!
    Floyd is very evasive and fast, if Oscar tries this he could potentially be out of gas completely by Round 4. Is going out for the early knockout against a faster fighter really a good idea for a 33 year old who has only fought 2 times in just under two years and whose last 4 fights give him a record of 2-2-0-1 and one of thoise wins was a gimme and the oher was controversial ?

    Personaly i hope De La Hoya TKO'S floyd late but i think Floyd will win by a boring 12 round UD

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    Default Re: Will De La Hoya-Mayweather live up to the hype? I doubt it.

    I might have a sneaky bet on Oscar stopping this one early though. I could probably get good odds and Mayweather has behaved strangely when pressured in the past. Generally though, his opponents have not had the tools to complete the job. I'm going out on a limb here, but i'll predict an early stoppage for Oscar. Controversial, I know, but I saw a newly envigorated De La Hoya against Mayorga and I hope he's back for this one.

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    Default Re: Will De La Hoya-Mayweather live up to the hype? I doubt it.

    against mayorga Oscar looked good because Mayorga stood and threw wild looping shots. He was so open De la hoya couldnt miss against floyd hes gonna have to chase his ass for all 12 rounds and when hes caught him hes gonna have to penatrate Floyds defense. i dont think a 33 year old whose been so inactive is gonna be able to withstand the pace, i predict oscar is gonna look for one big shot and hope he lands and if he is then i can see the fight going very similar to Calzaghie v Lacy.
    The only way i can see De la hoya winning is if he gets a gift from the judges or lands that one big shot (judges gift looks most likely) and even if he lands it whose to say Floyd ll go down. We dont really know how good PBF's chin is.
    Floyd UD or late TKO

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    Default Re: Will De La Hoya-Mayweather live up to the hype? I doubt it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MannyP
    Quote Originally Posted by Ted The Bull

    As monster anticipation builds for Mayweather-De La Hoya, the actual fight may not live up to the hype. If styles, in fact, make fights, this one could be a tactical bore. I see Mayweather sticking and moving a frustrated and slower Oscar on his way to a 12 round boring decision win.One thing is certain; it will not be Hearns-Hagler or Leonard-Hearns….at least in my opinion. I



    Hagler-Hearns…

    In April 1985, these two participated in a super fight. The formidable Tommy Hearns was a devastating puncher who ruled the welterweight (147 pounds) and cruiserweight (189) divisions through the 80s and 90s. The War was the nickname given by promoter Bob Arum to this fight. At stake were the WBC, WBA, and IBF Middleweight Titles.

    Unlike, Tyson-Lewis or Hagler-Leonard, this one lived up to expectations and was indeed a super fight in every sense of the phrase. This was World War One in the trenches. Maybe the most explosive first round in boxing history; simply unbelievable stuff. Many called it the “greatest three rounds in boxing history.” Hearns won the first round in ebb and flow malice aforethought, but Marvelous Marvin won the fight by savage ko in the third putting an end to the unmitigated violence.


    Hearns-Leonard…

    On September the 16, 1981, Sugar Ray and Tommy Hearns were paid handsomely as they put their titles on the line in an effort to unify the welterweight championship in Las Vegas. This one lived up to its expectations as Ray took an early lead only to surrender momentum to Hearns in a classic ebb and flow battle. With a loss staring him squarely in the eye (Angelo Dundee told him, "your blowing it son, your blowing it!" ), Sugar Ray reached down in the 13th and took it to the exhausted “Hitman” with savage shots both upstairs and to Tommy’s thin body. All of a sudden, Ray became the "Hitman" and decked Tommy. Showing great heart, Tommy held his own in the 14th until Ray cut loose with a big right followed by a brutal volley of unanswered punches to bring matters to a decisive and breathtaking close. Leonard was now the undisputed welterweight champion of the world.


    I doubt we will be seeing this on May 5.
    This will be no Hagler-Hearns type of fight. If you're looking for something like that, then yes, you will be disappointed. (BTW, I have to list Hagler first. I just have to.)

    However, I do not see it as a technical bore. Not at all. De La Hoya is going to stalk Mayweather and, if he does not catch him early, attack him furiously as the fight wears on. This will not turn into a Hagler-Hearns fight simply because it is extremely unlikely that Mayweather will be able to significantly hurt De La Hoya. Floyd will fight to win points and keep Oscar at bay, not to win by ko.

    I don't see it happening, but if what some people are predicting is true and Floyd is able to move, evade, and frustrate Oscar enough to win this fight, then it could turn into a back and forth, ebb and flow type of battle as in Hearns-Leonard. Personally, I have difficulty believing that Mayweather could withstand more than one of De La Hoya's flows in order to make this a reality, although I am willing to concede it's possibility.

    Honestly, I have felt that this fight is a mismatch from the very beginning. A mismatch in the favor of De La Hoya. As the fight nears, I feel it even more strongly. I believe the world is going to see De La Hoya like we have not seen him in ten years. Agressive, attacking, and determined to take out his weaker opponent in convincing fashion. Mayweather will either succumb, or have to run most of the fight just to survive.

    Since I believe it is much more likely Floyd will succumb, I look forward to an exciting fight...while it lasts. If the latter is true, yes, it could turn out to be boring and disappointing. Let's hope.

    I hope you are right and I am wrong.

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    Default Re: Will De La Hoya-Mayweather live up to the hype? I doubt it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo
    I might have a sneaky bet on Oscar stopping this one early though. I could probably get good odds and Mayweather has behaved strangely when pressured in the past. Generally though, his opponents have not had the tools to complete the job. I'm going out on a limb here, but i'll predict an early stoppage for Oscar. Controversial, I know, but I saw a newly envigorated De La Hoya against Mayorga and I hope he's back for this one.
    I suspect you get very good oods if you take OIscar by stoppage. Maybe 9-5 or even better.

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    Default Re: Will De La Hoya-Mayweather live up to the hype? I doubt it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo
    I have to say that my expectations are very high for this fight. Sure, 'on paper' this looks like there will be the typical clash of opposing styles which will force the contest into a tactical battle. Even if this is the case, it will be a mesmerising fight. To see two fighters of such esteemed quality in the ring together seems to be something that has been sadly lacking of late. There have been some great fights recently, but it seems that all too often the megafights such as this fail to materialise due to the usual promo-political bullshit.

    For De La Hoya, he will know that winning this fight will silence the remainder of his critics and add weight to his status as one of the greatest fighters ever to grace the ring. I fully expect Oscar to come out 'all guns blazing' and not stop until the job is done. Speed has been an issue for Oscar before, but then again Floyd has never faced an opponent with the technical prowess of De La Hoya. Hype isn't an issue, this fight sells itself. Bring it on, I can't wait!
    Floyd is very evasive and fast, if Oscar tries this he could potentially be out of gas completely by Round 4. Is going out for the early knockout against a faster fighter really a good idea for a 33 year old who has only fought 2 times in just under two years and whose last 4 fights give him a record of 2-2-0-1 and one of thoise wins was a gimme and the oher was controversial ?

    Personaly i hope De La Hoya TKO'S floyd late but i think Floyd will win by a boring 12 round UD
    Yes, Sugar. I think you have the beat.

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