was me or did the judges watch the wrong fight?

[Julius Rain]

he still won

but his ass didn't dominate jack shit

for a so called p4p king he didn't look so dominant thats for sure.

[ElTerribleMorales]

exactly my point, there are enough factor for a rematch, especially the mere fact that whenever DLH let his jab go, we would only see chicken boy mayweather get into his shell and move back

[MistaDibbs]

Floyd Mayweather, Sr. had it right, but not entirely. It does depend on what quantifies 'winning' in this fight to determine the outcome. If you're basing the fight on workrate, then Oscar De La Hoya gets the win. However, we know that workrate is not enough or else Sam Soliman would have had the edge over Winky Wright and Kassim Ouma would be the current middleweight champion over Jermain Taylor. If you score the fight based on accuracy (something that Mayweather, Sr. didn't even bother to suggest), then Mayweather did enough to win. The whole 'did you see his eye' argument is trash since you can hit the same available spot over and over again until it swells or breaks, but it doesn't mean that the rest of the body is going to stop fighting and it doesn't mean that you're wearing the opponent down at all. Other than physical damage (that tells more of the victim's ability to avoid injury more than it tells of the damager's skill), the best way to quatify a match is by the workrate and once that has been assessed, it's time to ask, how effective was that workrate. The numbers tell the story in this fight and that is obviously what two out of the three judges were basing their scoring on. The third judge obviously saw it Mayweather, Sr.'s way.

It was a nailbiter, but the Mayweather, Jr. win was no surprise. Consider this - how was Mayweather, Jr. able to throw and land at such an accurate percentage if was fighting defensively for most of the fight. You can't produce that type of workrate by counterpunching.

I believe that some of you that are criticizing Mayweather, Jr.'s win are doing so on the basis of what he should have done as opposed to what he actually did to win. He won. You may not have liked it, but it's no reason to say he should not have won. There are an abundance of better reasons.

Just to note, the flurrying, especially in the last minute to 30 seconds of any round by De La Hoya are typical (a la Sugar Ray Leonard). It is the reason he almost lost to Felix Sturm because Sturm knew about the tactic already and kept De La Hoya from doing that all night.

[ElTerribleMorales]

my point exactly and that the fight was close enough to make a rematch, floyd won, but he didn't dominate

[The_Infinite]

my point exactly and that the fight was close enough to make a rematch, floyd won, but he didn't dominate

Good point ElTerribleMorales. I see this is a topic started by PBF fans again who are over exaggerating his win. No one here in the forums are saying PBF didn't win. Yes he did win but it wasn't a 117 - 111 win like the thread starter stated. PBF-ODLH was a close fight. If PBF really wants to have a decisive win, he should KO his opponents. Then there will be no question/arguments.

[JonesJrMayweather]

you can't be serious? oscar fans always want a rematch..they wanted a third fight with mosely even though shane beat him twice...

now they want a rematch because oscar got beat by the smaller man and want a another 12 rounds of hoping to land the big left hook...only an idiot would have expected floyd, pound for pound or not to dominate a world class boxer with just as much amateur and pro experience not to mention BIGGER than him....fact is oscar should have easily won the fight but he was out boxed...where as he should have trained to be a monster in the fight and overwhelm floyd...as max kellerman said "oscar has never beaten a prime A+ fighter" and he never will....